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ABDN Abrdn Plc

-1.80 (-1.07%)
12 Jul 2024 - Closed
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Stock Type
Abrdn Plc ABDN London Ordinary Share
  Price Change Price Change % Share Price Last Trade
-1.80 -1.07% 166.75 16:35:12
Open Price Low Price High Price Close Price Previous Close
165.50 165.45 169.00 166.75 168.55
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Abrdn ABDN Dividends History

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Posted at 11/7/2024 10:26 by chinese investor
13p To 180p !

Chinese Investor (ABDN) 04 Jul 2024 - 08:56:07
23p To 180p !

Chinese Investor (ABDN) 14 Jun 2024 - 15:54:21
38p To 180p !
Posted at 10/7/2024 11:44 by chinese investor
Maybe This !

Chinese Investor (ABDN) 19 Jul 2023 - 13:32:20
Once the threat of high inflation evaporates then ABDN will zoom upwards.
Posted at 07/7/2024 11:27 by jubberjim
Does anyone still think that the dividend will be maintained at the current level.

Is only a question of when and not if the dividend is cut.

Cross holding in phoenix ?

And dividend paid like phoenix in equal instalments

The chair Douglas Flint has presided over the calamitous fall in the share price and has to go as he has let down the countless shareholders.

Will look to buy if dips to 132/133 level but otherwise remains unloved and unwanted by this particular investor
Posted at 06/7/2024 21:03 by pj84
In my view now is not the time to sell. Hopefully the worst is behind all of the undervalued UK shares paying what would normally be dividend yields that indicate a dividend cut but I expect a lot to start to rerate as interest rates finally start to fall, with the dividend yields also starting to fall as the shares rerate and the markets have had plenty of time to price in the new Labour government and if Labour keep to their pledge to be fiscally responsible, this could be the time to hold/buy underrated UK shares rather than sell.
Posted at 04/7/2024 09:09 by mcunliffe1
Long time no read CI. Morning to you.

I've got a £5k punt on ABDN - bought at £1.513 on 21 May 2023. Another 4p rise and I'm selling.

I note the market is generally up and PHNX and LGEN certainly are. I'm guessing ABDN is simply riding the wave rather than any specific news or event causing its rise.

Happy to be corrected.
Posted at 10/6/2024 09:45 by kenmitch

So you agree with Pierre as you’re entitled to obviously, but I note that you haven’t answered my earlier question about ABDN’s buybacks.Here’s that question again:-

The ABDN share price has fallen from £5 when they started their £multi million buybacks nearly 6 years ago to just £1.50 now. So can you explain how holders got a 10% risk free return please as to my eyes they’ve lost heavily with an investment in ABDN of £10000 6 years ago now worth £3000.
Posted at 09/6/2024 20:39 by pdosullivan
The buyback hasn't been the only determinant of the ABDN share price. Other asset managers have suffered similar declines to ABDN. But I would argue that if management had not pared the share count, there would be a lot of chatter about a cut to the dividend. And that would almost certainly drive the share price lower. Hence the buyback has been share price positive to my mind.
Posted at 09/6/2024 14:11 by mcunliffe1
Reading the 'paid for' pinned posts from thebutler at the top of this thread sums it up. The "desired effect"? "200p by Xmas"?

Which Christmas?

kenmitch, I've debated BB's on this and many other threads too many times. I have to say, it is easier to examine the suitability of the BB from a position of hindsight. Clearly, when a BB is announced the hype, the hope is for a success. And sometimes it is. Any such success may have been as a total or even partial result of the BB but perhaps a rise in the share price would have occured anyway.

Now, a severe drop in the share price during a BB is not a pretty sight. I will state it now before the cheerleaders for BB's try to state it, the share price may have fallen even faster had there not been a BB.

But, to answer YOUR specific question, well, I find that quite simple.
Your question was:

So can you explain how holders got a 10% risk free return please as to my eyes they’ve lost heavily with an investment in ABDN of £10000 6 years ago now worth £3000.

The answer: They Have Notgot a risk-free return of 10%. To be fair, pdosullivan used the phrase 10% yield and I should point out that providing the dividend doesn't change in value and the share price declines the yield of course increases.

But, is there enough money left to pay a dividend because, as stated:

cash cost to Abrdn of this dividend was GBP279m in FY23 versus GBP307m in FY22
so for the splurge of about £300mn the divi cost is reduced by £28mn. A 9.333% return on the splurged capital if you subscribe to the economics of the madhouse.

Me, I stuck £18k into Rolls Royce instead. If only I'd put £300mn into RR.
Posted at 09/6/2024 00:41 by mcunliffe1
Odd math.
If a share is priced at £1.50 and attracts a 10% dividend buying one share uses the money that would fund the divi for 10 shares.

I don’t see the logic in a buyback in relation to reducing future dividend costs especially with a company whose business is meant to involve investing money wisely.

Buy Rolls Royce shares instead of ABDN’s.

Posted at 18/5/2024 11:44 by netcurtains
Is ABDN the best (on paper) compared to all the major insurer/pension type companies:

I've added on an X column which gives a sort of VALUE to the share not linked to profits (I call this X):

Assets - Liabilities / Market Cap (lets call this X)
I've put this figures at the end of the list (The higher then number the "better" it is)

PHNX yield is 10.02% X= 0.57
LGEN is 8.1% X=0.32
HSBC is 7% X=1.41 <=========WOW
ABDN is 9.57% X=1.77 <=======WOW
AV. 6.77% X=0.69
MNG 9.54% X= 0.82
CSN 9.21% (CHESNARA) X=0.89
ELLA 6.53% (ECCLESIASTICAL) X=3.13 <=======WOW
HSD 9.35% (HANSARD) X=0.31
PGH 5.76% (PERSONAL GRP) X=0.57
SBRE 3.29% (SABRE Insurance) X=0.60
LRE 2.55% (LANCASHIRE) X=0.99 <========Nearly wow
JUST 2.02% (JUST GROUP) X=2.04 <=========WOW
AJB 2.97% (AJ BELL) X=0.11
ADM 2.72% (ADMIRAL) X=0.12
DLG 2.03% (DIRECT LINE) X=0.85
HSX 2.58% (HISCOX) X=0.81
PRU 2.08% (PRUDENTIAL) X=0.78
STJ 4.8% (ST JAMES PLACE) X=0.37

IG Group Holdings ticker IGG (its been having a good run)
Yield 5.73 PE: 10.74 X=0.68

Its difficult to find overseas competitors but I guess these two are:

Perpetual Equity Investment Company Ltd Australia ASX:PIC
Yield: 6.67% PE: 25.83

The BlackRock in NewYork NYSE:BLK
Yield 2.51% PE: 20.63

Of the big companies I've listed, on paper, taking into account dividend yield and NET ASSETs as percentage of MARKET CAP...

The "best" MAJOR insurer appears to be ABDN.....

I guess where ABDN falls down is that II does not seem to be generating the same sort of income as IG or AJ Bell...

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