Abrdn Share Discussion Threads

[exel] 27/12/2021 13:11

Do hope you're right, Spud, except the market may keep looking for other down-triggers? and thanks, Skinny, good find. Let's hope their (SA) experience replicates in the UK - and more generally.

[skinny] 27/12/2021 12:53

Posted on the INVP thread :-

[spud] 27/12/2021 12:05

I think we'll see a steady appreciation of equities next year as covid becomes the new norm. spud

[cwa1] 24/12/2021 12:32

We seem to have picked off the bottom a little at least. Fingers crossed it stays that way.

Best wishes to all for a very happy and healthy Christmas

[pierre oreilly] 22/12/2021 12:10

mcun, many thanks for the link to 'risk on markets' and other faux memes desgined to get you to part with your money. I read jim slater's 'Investment made easy' some years ago. I've read bucket loads of financial books since, and decided all were nonsense compared to the actual knowledge Jim set out for us so simply and intelligently. His book contains everything a pi needs to know for successful investment. So I am quite happy in my ignorance, thx anyways.

[pierre oreilly] 22/12/2021 12:02

No cw, I'm not after a fight - at least not with someone who hasn't thrown the first punch. I thought it was all quite funny. Socratic questioning always gets to the nitty gritty, but socratese ended up executed nevertheless.

Anyhow, I'm sure once omnicron subsides, abndr will forge ahead, like most other stocks. For a few weeks at least, until there's an alternative to shares for investment.

Looking more like flu each day in terms of severity (or maybe flu is worse - it's a big killer most years, and this year may kill more than usual for obvious reasons). Lots have omnicron, not many die or go to hospital with it - at least that's a resonable summary of what we are being told at the moment.

[cwa1] 21/12/2021 20:16

pdosullivan

LOL, not sure whether you were aiming that question at me, or somebody else! Best clarify before the wrong person answers 🙂

[chinese investor] 21/12/2021 18:56

The main force that is driving this share is COVID.
Let's move on !

[pdosullivan] 21/12/2021 18:44

Off topic but have you a blog / considered a blog? I see you time and again commenting on the type of stocks I follow - low earnings multiples, strong balance sheets, attractive market positions. Be good if there was somewhere that you used to commit your thoughts beyond these boards.

[mcunliffe1] 21/12/2021 18:16

CWA1 - well put.
Pierre - sometimes I can agree with you.

I rather wish the management at Abrdn could determine what makes their share price go up....and keep repeating the same action and avoid the down bits.

[cwa1] 21/12/2021 17:13

You seem to be spoiling for a fight for some reason. I really don't want one. It's nearly Christmas, let's work together. Or even just agree to disagree!

I'm MORE than happy for anything specific about ABDN to be discussed on here as long as it is reasonably polite and at least close to being on topic. The good AND the bad. What I'd PREFER to do is avoid endless discussion on Covid/The Government/Boris/Brexit/ whatever-that you see repeated ad nauseam in many, many other places.

If everyone else wants to keep on discussing Covid, etc, here, then knock yourselves out. As long as it's not offensive I'll just skip over them.

Good luck with it :-)

[pierre oreilly] 21/12/2021 16:55

I'm sure everyone knows the main factor driving abdn's price at the moment, and also most will probably realise i know that reason too.

I gave my thoughts just a day or two ago. They even got agreement - for the first time ever - from mcun.

Best not for me to state them again as i understand you don't want the main factor driving the price to be discussed on this board.

[cwa1] 21/12/2021 16:52

Thanks MC, here's a clickable link to it...

[cwa1] 21/12/2021 16:48

Pierre

I've had my stab at putting it plainly and clearly failed, so I think I'll leave it there for now, thanks.

If anyone else wants to have a bash at answering the question without "elevating the answer to a few levels of abstraction" then that would be great.

Perhaps, PO, you could give us your thoughts?

Cheers

[mcunliffe1] 21/12/2021 16:48

Pierre,

I googled and found this:

hxxps://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/risk-on-risk-off.asp

It helps and makes CWA1's post more understandable. Thanks CWA1.

[pierre oreilly] 21/12/2021 16:37

Ok then cw, care to tell us your thinking on what is driving the buying and selling which drives the price atm?

If you could frame it in everyday language which i could understand rather than things like 'risk on markets' and 'risk off markets'.

You know, just the factors today which are driving adbn's price. Much easier directly answering that really simple question rather than elevating the answer to a few levels of abstraction. Tia.

[cwa1] 21/12/2021 12:45

I think the largest determining factor driving the share price at the moment is the volume of shares traded that are buys or sells! There's not a lot of news except for the ii purchase, which didn't seem to go down particularly well. When the market was risk on yesterday and falling the shares fell with it, when it is risk off like today(so far!!) the shares are going up. I suspect it will be like that untill the next trading update or results(excepting unlikely events like bids, etc.)

[pierre oreilly] 21/12/2021 11:20

cwa, i wonder if you could explain your thinking on what is the largest factor driving abdn's shareprice atm. Tia.

[chinese investor] 21/12/2021 10:40

CWA1,
That sounded a bit too medical for my liking !
Only jesting !

Anyway wasn't the dividend slashed to create a floor so we should see increases in the next few years ?

[cwa1] 21/12/2021 10:23

Nice to see a modest recovery in the share price this morning...so far...

[pierre oreilly] 21/12/2021 00:20

Sir Yes Sir!

[spud] 20/12/2021 21:00

Apologies CWA1. I hold my hands up here. spud

[cwa1] 20/12/2021 19:52

Evening all. I know it's all relevant to the wider economy and there's no problem with a SLIGHT drift-but can we please keep the chat here to fairly specific ABDN stuff please?

There are millions of other places we can go to post about COVID, Omicron, the government and its faults, etc, etc.

Much obliged 🙂

Thanks all

[chinese investor] 20/12/2021 18:27

Hospital stays are much shorter as well !