United Utilities Share Discussion Threads

[alphorn] 20/1/2015 10:35

What you see is, by definition, historic. ;)

[eastbourne1982] 20/1/2015 10:32

Always a risk of a bomb going off as well, you can only trade what you see.

[alphorn] 20/1/2015 10:30

Always a risk of being bought out.

[eastbourne1982] 20/1/2015 10:28

Time for a speculative short ??

[alphorn] 20/1/2015 10:26

Getting very high - closed all positions.

[wad collector] 16/1/2015 14:34

All gone now. Pierre , we will now have to wait and see.Some I have swapped into SSE.

[brahmsnliszt] 16/1/2015 12:15

Tempting EastbourneSold some at 8.95 in dec which was a tad early.daily charts it's not overbought yet.

[eastbourne1982] 16/1/2015 10:18

If you are selling this for £9.50 - £9.60 I think based on what we know you are doing very well.

The price is up 20% since October, for a share like this that is a pretty big move, I'd cash in.

[pierre oreilly] 16/1/2015 10:11

Maybe we're just using different terminology, but I don't see selling share you hold as a gamble on th price going down. I know there's 'opportunity' losses if you sell and it goes up, but they aren't real losses are they. (I have a 2 week 20 grand 'opportunity' loss fom Tesco, which I assessed and sold just before the results, but i have no real losses there and, and I expect some will find this hard to fathom, I don't feel peed off that I sold).

I see a gamble on the price dropping a quid is where you can actually lose real cash instead of some sort of notional or 'opportunity' loss, and you, by reducing your exposure (and risk) to zero, can't make a real loss.

Btw, I think it's a pretty sensible thing to do if you think something is overvalued and you have a better use for the cash (i.e. selling and buying back if it drops say 15% and nothing fundamental has changed).

[wad collector] 16/1/2015 09:11

A"fairly" safe bet was the qualification. Yes , I am betting on it , as am going to sell my last holding if it touchs 960. I don't short but simply buy back after a drop.
Obviously it could carry on upwards to a tenner and beyond , but it seems to me that selling a politically sensitive equity at a 15 yr high is not much of a gamble 4 months ahead of a General Election with no clear favourite.

[pierre oreilly] 15/1/2015 20:17

Of course uu could be a quid less in a couple of months .... but i wouldn't describe that as a safe bet! I'd say it would be an extremely irrational bet or simply a gamble. Are you going to actually bet on that wad?

[lord gnome] 15/1/2015 17:52

After you with the short then wad. I sold out at 910 thinking they were fully valued. Wrong again!

[wad collector] 15/1/2015 17:42

Agree it is a safe bet to just hold , but it is also a fairly safe bet that these can be bought back a pound cheaper some time in the next couple of months.

[pierre oreilly] 14/1/2015 10:11

Thanks, but while inflation keeps low, uu shareholders won't need any luck. imv. It's a safeish home for cash with decent returns, and there aren't many of those around atm

[simon8] 14/1/2015 08:46

Thanks for the ride UU, lots of good divs and great capital growth over last few years all in my ISA. Decided now is the time to sell and hold in cash for a while. Good luck all who remain invested!

[eastbourne1982] 13/1/2015 09:05

Current price is £9.53 and I'm itching to short it however for now it seems content to head north, fundamentally it looks very expensive now.

[wad collector] 12/1/2015 14:22

I am trading my UU into SSE today ; another limit set for 955. A bit more political posturing here and I think it will tumble again.

[darias] 09/1/2015 13:04

Out. Held for many years but 30% pdofit too much for the club.

[speedsgh] 09/1/2015 12:28

Eastbourne - "however I am not always right !!!!"

:o) I am rarely right. Probably because I tend to apply rational thought to my predictions/analysis whereas, as we well know, Mr Market tends to be completely irrational!... at least over the short term. Which is why I gave up trying to second guess the market a long time ago + tend to remain largely invested. For me it's all about income, income, income. Just need to pick those companies that will continue to pay whenever the bottom drops out of the market... which is easier said than done!

[eastbourne1982] 09/1/2015 11:45

I think the market is going to be very choppy during the next year, the Dow Jones is back up near all time highs after the sell off earlier this week so I would imagine that will take a hit again within the next week which will in turn drag the FTSE back down.

UU could be purchased for around £9 a share earlier this week, now around £9.50 !!

Looks like a good time to sell imho and I am considering a short to hedge some of my other positions in case the market dips. I think these will settle around £9.20 - £9.30 again during the next week however I am not always right !!!! : /

[speedsgh] 09/1/2015 11:33

UU. performing strongly since New Year along with some of the other defensives (PFG, IMT...). Is there a general flight to defensives under way? I am personally v cautious over prospects for the market in H1, even more so Q2. Would appreciate others' thoughts.

[wad collector] 09/1/2015 08:53

Certainly not investor of the year - had some lemons too , like petrofac and angloamerican.
Just sold another batch at 951 here.
One thing I find irritating with the selftrade website is this message when I set a limit order that spans a payment date.

1) It is not possible to place a limit or stop order on this security because a corporate action is pending on 02/02/2015. You have requested an expiry date of 08/02/2015 but this must be more than 3 business days before the corporate action date.

Logical when it is an xd date , but this date with UU is merely the dividend payment date. Anyone else have this problem on other dealing websites?

[philo124] 08/1/2015 22:54

Interesting thoughts wad, as usual- you were probably 2014 investor of the year.
As regards UU. I can't really understand why it is valued at 940p+.
Still sat on IRV and CLLN myself. The usual high yield quality suspects had a good day today.

[wad collector] 08/1/2015 22:09

Hi Pierre , I have been intermittently heavy here since flotation though occasionally have sold all . I have bought some Carillion and Interserve but mosty sitting on cash at the moment ; I am happy to buy back at a 5-10% profit .I am a bit wary of the market at the moment , I think it could easily correct again , but am often wrong with my caution. I still hold a reasonable number here.
I also have sat on VOD and BT for a while , but am looking to unload some of both with a bit of a rise.

[pierre oreilly] 08/1/2015 17:50

Jeeze wad, you must have had a hell of a lot of lumps. Mind me asking what you did with the cash?

I sold about 10% of my tr21 yesterday intending to buy more talk or vod (I would go for BT but I'm vastly overweight there). Like to buy on weak days, which today wasn't. gry on tr21 is now about 1.5% iirc, and only 6 years to drop about 35% in price!