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|Fantastic. Thanks a lot- really appreciate it. I had an ODL account once upon a time!|
|Stuart - I use Walbrook who were FXCM/ODL etc. Been with them for nearly 20 years and always happy with their service.|
|Can I ask who are your preferred brokers for trading options in the UK?
I'd like to trade US equity options really. Not sure I trust IG.
I did have an Interactive Brokers account years ago- may open that up again unless there are better?
|Hmm long call options to the value of the portfolio. Buy put options to cover twice the value of the portfolio?|
|Hi Praipus. Thx. I shall give it more thought and write when back from holidays. In a nutshell I moved a lot out of sterling into non GDP assets in the spot market. Will think of using options to lock some gains.|
|Yes, not sure I can help but willing to try.|
|Anybody about? I need some input regarding fixing forex gains. None of the original band on the other thread.|
|Maybe, it is a trade that I may do to lock in my GBP gains before year end.|
|I don't know how to write these but I do think that the Euro will come under pressure in the fullness of time.......|
|Anyone still writing options out there?|
|Anybody have naked calls for today? As near a certainty as you can get - opened up months ago - full gains today. It is extremely rare that you know in advance so precisely when the uncertainty will build.
As close to guaranteed returns that I have seen over the years.|
|Chatities Aid closed.|
|Most ETF products are based on the Futures contracts which trade 24/7 so reflect the overnight move but also have a drag effect in certain circumstances.
eg Oil, USO (ETF) dropped 57% along with the Futures contract but when crude rose off the bottom , 39% the USO (ETF) only increased 27% because the price in the futures contract was in contango ( a drag effect which chips away at the ETF value).
So the answer to your question, they are not a buy and hold product and have to be actively managed.
|Some do, I've had the same problem. However some DBX trackers adjust as if adding interest overnight, you will have to read the fact sheet. I've had a quick look but cant find one for ProShares DOG.
Yep you'd have to watch it daily, could work in your favour on big days in the right directions.
Still might be better to do it with options.|
|Does this ETF reset daily? there was a nice ETF I saw a while back called SUK2 that wss x3 FTSE that I hoped I could buy and hold. But apparantly it resets daily and doesn't work as a buy and hold option.|
|Alternatively you could look at the short ETF for the DJ AMEX:DOG i think. Place your order/s to buy in the market and just wait. No cost till the limit is hit. Loss limited to the amount you invest.
ETF v Futures list
"DJ" Dow Jones 30 DJIA Short ETF
Options in the DJ future
Options on the DJ ETF
|On my post #741, surprised there isn't any easy way to do this with a fixed loss. Even on the trade2win forum no-one seems to have a real solution to this type of trade either.
|Screen says about £55 to sell but its Options on a DOW ETF Open Interest circa 500. No idea of depth. Intrinsic value, the market would have to make a big move for the options to go in the money. Its funny how these things suddenly look expensive or at least well priced. Is it better to look closer to the money?|
|Chances are high that you wouldn't need to hold the Puts till expiry.
If the DJ30 were to fall a couple of thousand points, fairly quickly, then the increase in Implied Volatility would increase the Puts value many times.
Increase in IV has a huge effect on Option prices.
That's why it's NOT a good idea to sell that far out. You could be taken out before expiry by the increase in margin requirement.
(I've got the Tee Shirt on that one!)
|That's the kind of doomsday bet I like too. But I'm so green at this that I don't know what the £1000 would make you.
Praipus you say £60 for January 2017. How many could you sell at that price?|
|Put options would limit your down side. DOW 10,000 strike are about £60 for Jan 2017 expiry. Interesting idea.|
|If I was prepared to stake and lose £1k max on my view that the Dow Jones will be below 10000 by the end of 2017. What would be the best spread betting option to do this?
It would be ideal to place the order and set and forget. If it pays off, great if not I don't mind losing the £1k.
So on the upside, I would go for £10 per point(£1,000) with a max of 18,500 on the Dow Jones. On the down side if it did reach 10,000 I would be £8k up.
Any ideas on the most suitable option?|
|Ok correct URL