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OPTS Optos

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28 Mar 2024 - Closed
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Optos LSE:OPTS London Ordinary Share GB00B0WHW246 ORD 2P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 339.00 - 0.00 00:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
0 0 N/A 0

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
29/9/2015
17:05
Can anyone tell me of any investment trust funds that use options for portfolio_insurance?
praipus
24/9/2015
12:24
Options Traders rule no.1 Dont let the market harm you? :)
praipus
22/9/2015
16:04
Praipus on the last run up I managed to close my long calls for a very small profit , what a lucky boy. I was away on holiday when the brown stuff hit the fan.

Stavros

stavros28
19/8/2015
15:18
Miners not playing ball guys.
stavros28
19/8/2015
15:17
OK Alp, will visit if in the area, thanks.
stavros28
18/8/2015
08:55
I used to visit Zug in the old days. Fribourg is the Swiss French version.
alphorn
18/8/2015
06:50
It’s all happening in Zug, the former Swiss fishing village that now hosts one of the world’s largest concentrations of millionaires. Zug is home to more registered companies than people, and among its 30,000 corporations is Glencore, which will share gory details about the downturn in its fortunes at half-year results on Wednesday.
stavros28
14/8/2015
20:18
Alp you know I visit Zug a lot and listen to the Alp horns .
stavros28
14/8/2015
09:37
Hello Alp , just sold naked put options( cash covered ) under BHB Billiton yesterday and Glencore .
stavros28
14/8/2015
09:34
Good to read.
alphorn
14/8/2015
08:09
Praipus I very really buy Call Options but my gut tells me this BHP position is right.
stavros28
14/8/2015
08:05
Hello Praipus , just sold naked put options( cash covered ) under BHB Billiton and Glencore and bought some Dec atm calls in BHP, so a synthetic position . long SLV Silver in the US, and selling option premium in the US in anything that has high vol with a revision to the mean on vol, my standard mechanical trade. US will not hike rates now with devaluation in China , so Dollar will come off its priced for a hike rate so miners will rally. My software has buy signals under all the miners except Glencore but Blackrock World Miner Fund also has a buy signal. Nice to chat again.
stavros28
13/8/2015
10:00
Are you still managing OPM?
praipus
13/8/2015
10:00
Thanks Stavros, agreed Butterflies difficult to manage. Indeed. What's are you up to, in trading terms?
praipus
12/8/2015
12:58
Hello Stavros - option positions ticking over - looking for other ideas but nothing jumps out ;)
alphorn
12/8/2015
12:55
Hello peeps long time no chat.
stavros28
12/8/2015
12:54
Butterfly spreads are a pain in the backside too many legs and commission heavy.

The idea of limiting risk is always appealing. But if limiting risk also means accepting very small profits, several questions come up:

1. Is it worth the margin requirements?

2. Can my capital be better employed elsewhere?

3. Will the strategy take too much effort to manage and track?

Praipus long time no chat.

Stavros

stavros28
12/7/2015
11:19
Greek tragedy has turned into Greek farce.
Looks like a high-stake poker game where neither side can win .
Makes you want to bang their heads together and instruct them to reach a definite decision by end of day .
Over 70% of respondents in a poll now expect this to drag on into next week .
If so , expect some market volatility next week .
If they miss the chance to resolve this at the weekend when markets are mostly closed, it will get harder next week when news leaks feed hopes and fears during trading hours into an already jittery market .
Meanwhile, the China market turmoils may re-surface .

harvester
06/7/2015
23:57
ALP:
very difficult at the moment to find a safe and rewarding investment.
Have to assess and take a view on the macro situation to take a view on the level of risk one can take.
Maybe its my age which makes me extra cautious. I thing the world situation financially is very dire .
The 350 billion plus debts of Greece are very large for such a small country .
Everybody knows they are bust and can't re-pay but they have to pretend that the loans are not in default . Otherwise the creditors have to write the loan value down to near zero. They will try for a fudge solution such as part write-off and pushing the repayment schedule out to the future. Otherwise some creditor banks may collapse.
I don't think myself it is a side-show. It would be if the economies of the creditor countries were sound . That's were the real problem lies . The eurozone countries themselves , Britain , US have so much sovereign debts that soon a critical point will be reached where they can no longer service the bonds and loans even at low interest rates . Have a look on the internet for the "World Debt clock" . Quite frightening . If the savers of the world lose trust in their governments and their ability to honour the loan agreements that can lead to a collapse of the bond markets . It's the domino effect. That's why Greece gets so much world-wide attention .
So my decision process is one of elimination , i.e. what to avoid.
No 1 is now to stay away from derivatives . Unfortunately that means put options long or short . You have to think of the counter-party risks !
Yes , mayj is right , it is costly to stay on the sidelines when money can be made by risk taking. I also avoid ETF's of any form . I don't hold gilts now and only a few 2017 to 2021 corporate bonds .My biggest risk is my share portfolio.
All good divi-paying FTSE100 and a few FTSE250 shares. When to sell is the big problem .
The safest investments are physical holdings. Property , as you say . The property prices will fall heavily too but it can not disappear.
Physical gold, though the returns are lousy. For balance you need some .
I expect them to cope with the Greek fiasco one way or another , even though other simultaneous crises like China market crash , Nicaragua etc will aggravate the global problem . Maybe we'll get a period of hyper-inflation first before there is a complete market melt-down .
P.S. The US rate hike could be a trigger . When liquidity dries up , it will have a big market impact .

harvester
04/6/2015
09:56
Can anyone explain the term "pricing off of the butterfly"?
praipus
23/5/2015
11:57
mayj: I have been selling puts since the early 2000's
Had big exposures but sailed through the big market setbacks relatively unscathed with losses on many occasions but overall alright .
Looking back I did sometimes sail a bit too close to the wind with big option exposures and collateral mainly supplied by shares which all suffered heavily during the crash periods . By June expiry my option exposure will be zero but I may be tempted on odd occasions to write short-term put or call spreads .
You probably have been trading options as long as me. I remember you from our meeting at Euronext in London . So you must be well acquainted with the market fluctuations . In my lifetime I have experienced four major market crashes , each one of which brought the country nearly to its knees.
However, the risks have exponentially increased now due to global trading, the interconnection of all the major world financials , the increasing sophistication and obscurity of derivatives , the unstoppable build-up of world debts , recklessness of banks and even governments etc etc etc .
Up to now the central banks have been able to step in at critical times to douse the fires but now the trust-worthiness of sovereign bonds are in doubt.
When sovereign nations fail , the result is calamity and a mess. Argentinia was an example but much worse may follow. Probably will . Nobody knows when .
When it happens, it will happen too fast to get out of derivative positions .
Compared with that the losses for failing to ride the waves are minor .
It's like holding gold. You don't expect to make a profit holding gold long-term. It's a form of insurance to preserve some value of your personal wealth .
Even holding physical gold may not safeguard you since it may become illegal to be held privately or impossible to trade . We have not yet reached that point but there are precedents .
Probably have my age to blame for turning so cautious !

harvester
23/5/2015
11:25
Harv, Alp.

I have been expecting the market to fall for years, which is why I have been reluctant to sell puts, and happy to roll over calls. It has cost me quite a lot in unrealised losses. The market rarely does what it should or what I want it to do, rather like the current England cricket team.

mayjuli
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