Whitbread Share Chat (WTB)

Share Name	Share Symbol	Market	Type	Share ISIN	Share Description
Whitbread Plc	LSE:WTB	London	Ordinary Share	GB00B1KJJ408	ORD 76 122/153P

	Price Change	% Change	Share Price	Bid Price	Offer Price	High Price	Low Price	Open Price	Shares Traded	Last Trade
	+49.00p	+1.17%	4,235.00p	4,223.00p	4,224.00p	4,232.00p	4,188.00p	4,196.00p	424,608	16:35:17

Industry Sector	Turnover (m)	Profit (m)	EPS - Basic	PE Ratio	Market Cap (m)
Travel & Leisure	3,106.0	515.4	231.4	18.3	7,773.04

Whitbread Share Discussion Threads

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16/4/2018 13:09	More comment: "ShareCast News) - With 10% of Whitbread shares now in activist investor hands following the emergence of Elliott Advisers, analysts from Credit Suisse, Stifel and Numis offered varying opinions on how much value can come from breaking-up of the Costa Coffee and Premier Inns owner. Elliott has confirmed that is has amassed a near-6% stake which together with Sachem Head, which revealed its 3%-plus sake in December, means roughly 10% of the shares are held by activists. Sachem has reportedly been pushing for the separation of the property from the hotel assets, a re-leveraging of the balance sheet, and the separation or sale of Costa, while Elliottt is said to just be pursuing a spin-off of Costa rather than "any other financial engineering". Whitbread shares were up 6% to 4,180p as midday approached on Monday. Credit Suisse said it saw a 26% potential upside to 4,950p as the addition of Elliott as the group's largest shareholder "will increase the likelihood of break-up". The Swiss bank believes there is "much wider shareholder support for change" and that a split of Premier Inn and Costa "makes sense", with the current price "inconsistent" with the long term competitive advantages of each business and a sum-of-the-parts valuation that implies 40% potential upside. January's update showed that current trading isn't easy, while the combined corporate agenda is "very full", with Costa facing structural challenges from its high street focus and both business striving for material UK space growth, with international aspirations, cost inflation pressures and management's saving plan alongside Costa's wide range of operational initiatives to improve positioning. If management want to fight the break-up, Credit Suisse said "other levers could be pulled", said CS, noting Whitbread's £5.4bn of freehold property, potential for restructuring the low-return pub restaurant business and for extending the efficiency mindset and the £150m cost saving target. Morgan Stanley's take was that the while the reported push for a Costa demerger is "likely leading to further speculation" that "should support the shares", as Costa is only 25% of profit/EV, "investors need to believe in more for outsized returns". A demerger of Costa "could remove the risk the business is sold too cheaply" amid the turnaround and "seems relatively lower risk" versus a disposal of hotel real estate that "risks taking on more expensive long-term leases, losing control of the asset/product, and reducing investment opportunities" or a disposal of the pub restaurants that "risks dis-synergies given nearly all are co-located adjacent to a Premier Inn". Analysts at Numis noted that the £3bn of extra value perceived by Elliott would be equivalent to 1650p per share or a 3.5x EBITDA for the whole group. "In our view it is entirely logical that the two businesses be split at some point, as the natural end game to the unpicking of the conglomerate," Numis said, seeing a demerger as easiest to execute although trade sale would clearly crystallise a control premium, with Krispy Kreme and Caribou Coffee owner JAB seen as most likely trade buyer or a range of global consumer companies. "An IPO is unlikely, unless WTB wishes to generate cash for reinvestment such as in Germany." Broker Stifel noted that "many US investors" view Whitbread in a different light from mainstream UK investors, more as an investment in hotels, property and Costa together with a lightly geared financial structure. "We consider it is very unlikely that the current management would separate the freehold assets from the hotel business, or move to a more leveraged financial structure. However, it is possible that Costa could be separated from the rest of the group, particularly if an attractive offer arose for that business." With the current UK consumer outlook and Costa's difficult recent trading, Stifel was "not convinced" that a demerged Costa would attain a higher rating than Whitbread currently does. "Such a step may, however, be a move towards exploiting value from both parts of the group and would certainly encourage corporate activity. Our sum-of-the-parts valuation is £48.50 per share." Panmure Gordon noted that CEO Alison Brittain's tone "has become noticeably more conciliatory to shareholder demand, which will make next week's finals interesting" and estimated each turn of Costa EV/EBITDA is worth £235m/130p per share. "The challenge is why sell now when LFLs are flatling and market is worried about the high st, having rebutted demands to sell over the last 8 years when LFL averaged mid-single digit growth? If CEO Alison Brittain can demonstrate self-help initiatives are working and Costs LFLs inflect in H2 then Costa would be primed for sale. "The other angle, spinning off property, feels like a non-starter given than i) SLBs would increase operational gearing, ii) the Board consistently advocate benefits of freehold ownership, iii) WTB doesn't really need the cash proceeds." Over at Canaccord Genuity they said Whitbread was "under-leveraged" with net debt/EBITDA of just 1.1x for FY18E and circa £4bn of freehold assets on the balance sheet but pointed out that the position of the Whitbread pension trustees "potentially adds a complication to any break-up" as the last year end deficit was circa £400m with Whitbread paying £95m per annum in contributions. For Whitbread's management the opportunity to sell to investors if trying to avoid a break-up, "is to turn interesting international bridgeheads into material growth opportunities for both Premier Inn and Costa Coffee. For Premier Inn the focus is on Germany and for Costa Coffee the focus is China". In a preview of the full year figures due next Wednesday, Deutsche Bank said Whitbread was "one of the cheapest stocks" in the sector on a rating of circa 14.5 times earnings, even before the emergence of Elliott." Most seem to see potential uplift of 20%-40%.	galatea99	Read Full Thread Reply
16/4/2018 12:34	Some broker comment referred to in FT Alphaville Markets Live: Https://ftalphaville.ft.com/marketslive/2018-04-16/	galatea99	Read Full Thread Reply
16/4/2018 08:24	Great Start !	chinese investor	Read Full Thread Reply
16/4/2018 07:34	highlighted this morning https://uk.advfn.com/stock-market/london/whitbread-WTB/share-news/PRESS-Elliott-Advisors-Ups-Whitbread-Stake-Propo/77179019	bountyhunter	Read Full Thread Reply
15/4/2018 22:07	...could be a good day tomorrow for Whitbread shareholders following the weekend press :-)	bountyhunter	Read Full Thread Reply
15/4/2018 20:46	That's quite a holding the two hedge funds have between them, someone somewhere will be hot under the collar.	spacecake	Read Full Thread Reply
15/4/2018 20:08	This is from an Indian website but is from City AM originally: "Costa spin-off could lead to £3bn Whitbread windfall – and cost just £20m" Https://www.newsr.in/n/Business/1zj7iv5wzu/Costa-spin-off-could-lead-to-%C2%A33bn-Whitbread.htm	galatea99	Read Full Thread Reply
15/4/2018 16:10	UBS must be embarrassed - they cut WTB target to 3,875 last Tuesday.	bigbertie	Read Full Thread Reply
15/4/2018 09:24	Yes. From that "Times" article: "Most hotel businesses trade at a higher market rating than Whitbread, as do most standalone coffee operations. Allowing the two businesses to trade separately could produce a 40% rise in value for Whitbread investors, it is suggested."	galatea99	Read Full Thread Reply
15/4/2018 09:10	quite likely imho & could be good for shareholder value... Hedge fund Elliott Advisors demands Whitbread spins off Costa Coffee Spin off Costa, urges activist Elliott after secret share raid Sabah Meddings April 15 2018, 12:01am, The Sunday Times Https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/hedge-fund-elliott-advisors-demands-whitbread-spins-off-costa-coffee-wcflxtctg	bountyhunter	Read Full Thread Reply
03/4/2018 11:42	Local Costa pretty busy yesterday. Recent visits to other towns on south coast suggest business is ok.Don't know how hotel business is doing. Any ideas?Can't help thinking there is some upside at this price.	richj5000	Read Full Thread Reply
23/3/2018 15:13	Anyone have consensus estiamtes of profit and EPS for the full year results due very soon?	mozy123	Read Full Thread Reply
13/2/2018 10:58	Pathetic effort to make a story out of nothing. Most customers would leave a room as they found it. So on a daily basis minimal cleaning would be required. Like most jobs the more time you spend on it leads to more efficient practice for instance it was alleged one of the cleaning girls was finished by one. Whitbread outsource this work so they have a vested interest it is carried out to their satisfaction.	churchill2	Read Full Thread Reply
12/2/2018 20:26	CH4 Premier Inns undercover expose. Doesn't look good - not paying for all time worked by cleaners.	yf23_1	Read Full Thread Reply
20/1/2018 08:42	I've had another idea - give out Premier Inn breakfast discount vouchers in Costa coffee shops and Costa discount vouchers with Premier Inn room booking receipts!	bountyhunter	Read Full Thread Reply
20/1/2018 08:38	You should be on the BoD scobak :)	bountyhunter	Read Full Thread Reply
19/1/2018 21:18	Keep the Chinese coffee venture otherwise absolutely agree re dumping Costa. Then reinvest in developing its German hotel chain with the proceeds. My reasoning is that coffee shops are in a saturated marketplace in UK. Budget hotels in UK is becoming a crowded market so Germany offers greatest chance to expand already having a foothold and a fragmented sector.	scobak	Read Full Thread Reply
18/1/2018 11:36	Hotels are doing well, time to spin off Costa?	bountyhunter	Read Full Thread Reply
18/1/2018 11:22	Overinvested in London hotels ? Only time will tell if they have over egged the pudding.	spacecake	Read Full Thread Reply
18/1/2018 09:04	Brill - strong and boring. I like.	mozy123	Read Full Thread Reply
18/1/2018 07:57	18(th) January 2018 Whitbread PLC third quarter trading update FY18 Good total sales growth of 6.8% YTD and on track to meet full year expectations ... ... Costa in China continues its good momentum with another quarter of positive like-for-like sales growth	bountyhunter	Read Full Thread Reply
15/1/2018 18:38	Been there, done that. Big company ignoring their customer.	wells777	Read Full Thread Reply
15/1/2018 14:04	If you feel that strongly, surely the answer is to contact Premier Inns' customer relations team rather than post randomly on a financial bb in the vague hope that someone from Whitbread might see it?!	jeffian	Read Full Thread Reply

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