Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[iofra] 24/7/2020 14:21

laginaneiL
The Company is currently in advanced negotiations with Gnanomat S.L., a Spanish based company capable of utilising Versarien's graphene products in an environmentally friendly, scalable production process for energy storage devices that offers high power density, almost instant recharging and very long lifetimes for use in electrical vehicles and portable electronics products. If successfully concluded, Versarien will own a majority stake in that company and provide funding for scale up of a pilot plant. It will provide a centre of excellence for energy in Europe with access to a proportion of the c€1bn of research funding post Brexit, and access to Spanish graphene research institutions.

Nearly two years ago (Sept) well before any pandemic and the progress on scale up and grants is .....

[laginaneil] 24/7/2020 14:10

iofra,

Well you off course 'you' knew a pandemic was coming so why did you buy them?

Kemeche, willoic

Difficult to sell anything when nearly everywhere is closed due to a pandemic.

Patience... trade wars and pandemics will pass us by.

[kemche] 24/7/2020 13:29

"No news"

1st July - £5million innovate UK Loan Agreement - no news on sales
1st July – Corporate Update (China plus Matt)- no news on sales
19th June – Appointment of Non Exec Chairman- no news on sales
17th June – Q&A session- no news on sales
28th April - 2Dtech awarded grant- no news on sales
23rd April – RollsRoyce chooses to partner with 2Dtech - no news on sales
6th April – Clarification of Sharing Agreement and China JV - no news on sales
25th March – China update - no news on sales
23rd March – Lanstead arrangement £6m - no news on sales

So true - no news.

[willoicc] 24/7/2020 13:28

No news = no bad news = good.

No news = no good news = falling share price = bad.

Knowledgeable posters taking themselves off to form cliques on other forums with limited accessibilty = genuine long-term holders on here are starved of information so they sell = bad.

The bashers have succeeded by default.

[willoicc] 24/7/2020 13:21

Rome wasn't built in a day, but they did complete buildings at an early stage.

[rogerthegrouch] 24/7/2020 13:14

"No news"

1st July - £5million innovate UK Loan Agreement
1st July – Corporate Update (China plus Matt)
19th June – Appointment of Non Exec Chairman
17th June – Q&A session
28th April - 2Dtech awarded grant
23rd April – RollsRoyce chooses to partner with 2Dtech
6th April – Clarification of Sharing Agreement and China JV
25th March – China update
23rd March – Lanstead arrangement £6m

[pentacosttempleton] 24/7/2020 13:03

Well I'd say good news is good news and bad news is bad news.

Problem is we were certainly expecting a lot of good news by now which sadly, as yet, has not arrived.

I'm slightly annoyed that Neill thinks it's appropriate to tweet like mystic meg instead of providing a proper update.

SuperN how do you know Versarien graphene is not involved in this new tech? It could very well be.

[kemche] 24/7/2020 12:13

Followed by the frying pan!

[kemche] 24/7/2020 12:12

Imagine my state if I told her indoors that the bungalow in Skegness was theoretical, or an understanding, or a collaboration. I dare say she would be quick to pick up the Anglo Saxon vernacular!

[kemche] 24/7/2020 12:06

Rome was not built in a day.
But it was bloody built. I have seen it! It's not theoretical. It is not an "understanding".

[kemche] 24/7/2020 12:03

No news is good new. Walking a mile in someone else's shoes. All the MOU's still valid and everyone is still understanding everyone else. Things still going on in the background.

I would really appreciate tweets about sales and what is going on in the foreground. Did ANY of the 143,000 emails contain sales orders? Or were they all spam?

[scrutable] 24/7/2020 12:03

hxxps://www.paragraf.com/article/graphene-now-ready-to-shake-up-the-electronics-industry/

Fascinating news from Paragraf a Cambridge graphene development company using CVD for graphene coating of light weight polymer solar cells they intend to market through Vidatek (VDTK) in the New Year. They claim an electical efficiency in the range 20-30+%, near to double that for conventional glass panelled solar. Surely the Cheltenham team have close contact with them through the VRS Cambridge based subsidiary Cambridge Graphene Ltd - though we seem to get no news of any progress by them?

I presume we will get an update on the Cambridge subsidiary's 2020 year progress with the results in ten days time?.

[fireball xl5] 24/7/2020 11:41

You said it yourself - 2 short years.Back to the Romans.Rome Wasn't Built in a Day, But They Were Laying Bricks Every Hour.

[laginaneil] 24/7/2020 11:19

DT I think header still valid.
We just have a few 'small' problems:

Small PANDEMIC
Oil prices went to ZERO
Trump 'war' with China, correction - everyone !
Just my thoughts...

[jointer13] 24/7/2020 11:19

lets not forget...

the 5 million pounds is for to...

"significantly increase its manufacture of quality assured graphene."

for

Graphene-Seat, Concrete, Arch, Leisure, Elastomer...THE G SCALE

latest to join vrs....i reckon they know what they are doing.

james stewart

Mr Stewart is currently Managing Partner of Menlo Partners LLP, an investment and advisory company with a particular focus on technology companies operating in the UK and China. Prior to founding Menlo in 2013, he spent 25 years in the private equity sector, latterly as a Partner at ECI Partners LLP ("ECI"), one of the UK's longest established private equity fund managers, where he was involved in a wide range of investments. James joined ECI in 1996 having formerly spent time at Arthur Andersen & Co. (Management Consultancy Division), N M Rothschild & Co. Limited and as an Investment Director at Rothschild Ventures Limited.

"In particular James has considerable experience of doing business in Asia and a wide range of contacts that will assist Versarien. I look forward to working closely with him and the Group being able to utilise his skills and experience as the commercial adoption of our graphene and other 2D materials accelerates."

matt walker

this speaks absolute volumes...matt being right in the thick of it..he knows..-:)

you dont give up a good career in the dit unless....

"Impossible for me to turn down the opportunity in what is currently the world's most progressive company with regards to graphene technology"

"As Head of International Strategy and Government Relations, Mr. Walker will in particular continue to focus on advancing the Company's on-going opportunities within South Korea, Singapore, Japan and in China, where he will be appointed a director of BVT."

[dtaliadoros] 24/7/2020 11:06

No news is good news? What absolute rubbish!

With such a long list of collaborations it is not good news that not even one seems to have bourne fruit yet.

No one in their right mind believes that the list in the header of this forum still represents active collabs. To pretend otherwise is just disingenuous.

I don't doubt at some point a deal will come through but I suspect a good many existing shareholders would have already departed by then. So many hypes have come and gone in the 2 short years I've held this....US, Oil, China, arches,....at least we got some headphones.....did they ever put in a repeat order?

[woolybanana] 24/7/2020 10:57

Any news on the tyre front?

[bisho4] 24/7/2020 10:15

@Adejuk, "to which I can add" isn't a split infinitive, it's not a verb. "To which" is the dative form.

[crosswires] 24/7/2020 10:12

Roger, no news on any of those, and of course if that remains the same in 12 months (people here did not think there would be no news by now so another 12 months is obviously possible) then the share price will be lower.

Lag, you sell on news because the share price has risen and that is probably what guys who invested a few years back and saw the price rise to over £1.50, should have done. That was the very definition of a "sell on news" stock back then...

My holding is small for me, very speculative, and I view it like putting some money on an outsider at the bookies.. I'm already down 30% ish in a small time frame, and may well take more if this drifts into the 20s, but my timeframe is happily long and it could fail and I would not be upset. I get the impression from many who post here that they are not so fortunate with time, and they are faced with a tougher decision I guess and I can see why they are impatient after the years of maximum PR via Twitter.

[laginaneil] 24/7/2020 10:08

Crosswires, The 'sell on news' adage contradicts you statement maybe...

[crosswires] 24/7/2020 09:51

"No news is good news" is a very odd thing to say to investors because that is not how share prices prosper. As I said a while back, I think this has turned into a long term investment now, 2-5 years, I'm leaving my investment BUT i'm playing with cash that I could lose, anyone who is banking on this cash and in the short term should be thinking long and hard, because in many ways and on standard valuation metrics this could easily go a lot lower.

[woodpeckers] 24/7/2020 09:33

The rabbit, if there is more likely to come in the results, Neill can't give any fresh news at the AGM.