Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[superg1] 28/7/2020 09:57

I’ve a feeling the next couple of weeks are going to be kind to us and deservedly so.\

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[mavfav] 28/7/2020 09:34

I have no intention of mentioning my other holdings here and suggest others don't either.It's good to see the idiots return for their final push and it's a good sign of them getting twitchyI've a feeling the next couple of weeks are going to be kind to us and deservedly so.What you will see is the detractors trying to push decent posts off the board by flooding with the same drivel they have failed to quantify over and over again.I suspect the block button becoming very used and if the really want there is a different thread for those who are not holders and want to criticise.I know nooothing

[joeblogg2] 28/7/2020 09:22

Good to have you back super, go easy on tern as i am hoping vrs and tern will pay off my remortgage and debts.

[tweetingceo] 28/7/2020 09:20

Scumbags have always been the source of my determination to act for a lifetime, it is not going to change now.

A few weeks off, had things to do, all done and I'm back.

Lol! This is so brilliant.

[tweetingceo] 28/7/2020 09:18

In all seriousness, I don't have much time to post so will leave you to it for now. Only popping in now and then. Just wanted to say 'welcome back'.

[tweetingceo] 28/7/2020 09:16

You've had enough rope and you are obligingly hanging yourself, bravo.

Life isn't just about hiding cash to avoid libel claims

This is the stuff I've missed, Graham - the implicit threats!

Enormous fun, as I was saying. Welcome back!

[superg1] 28/7/2020 09:13

Thanks tweeting first ones I've read of yours, thought I'd have a look.

Yeah TERN is a dud, Bids is now where it deserved to be after the fictitious note and known lies. Bids ineteresting sector, will it take off

VRS is a different animal, you guys have done your best through fraud and false allegations but doing that just ups the interest of those who have been looking to nail you lot for years.

You've had enough rope and you are obligingly hanging yourself, bravo.

Life isn't just about hiding cash to avoid libel claims

[tweetingceo] 28/7/2020 09:13

Also, I will not stand for any suggestion that superg1 has returned in order to try and galvanise the share price by ramping it.

Superg1, RogerTheGrouch and many others are absolutely loving it in their private off-board group discussing the finer aspects of VRS's pretend Chinese business. They have no need to post here - they've said so.

[tweetingceo] 28/7/2020 09:06

When the idiots return you know the share is about to rise so we all welcome you back with open arms!

A bit harsh, that! Graham has been a long established ramper of these shares, and deserves more respect.

[f3rdinand] 28/7/2020 08:58

When the idiots return you know the share is about to rise so we all welcome you back with open arms!

[tweetingceo] 28/7/2020 08:57

Is Graham Wood (superg1) back? Enormous fun!

Loved the post slagging off TERN and BIDS when exactly the same red flags are there for VRS.

Graham doesn't know the meaning of irony, does he?

I'm back if Graham is back.

[ropey] 28/7/2020 08:33

https://youtu.be/IesIsKMjB4YOld but interesting view

[jointer13] 28/7/2020 08:12

have you noticed how the ones that slate vrs try to turn it around that they are being victimised....they stick out like a sore thumb.

[rogerthegrouch] 28/7/2020 08:11

Rid - sales will come and I’d expect this year or next. At that point the ratchet flips to a very lucrative prop.

I’m not sure how you would define ‘poor’ results. We have seen from all the updates over the past 12 months that things are progressing very well. Any large order would need to be RNSed so to expect that would be a little naive imo. There shouldn’t be any surprises in the results (good or bad), it’s the duty of the company to keep the market informed of changes. My eyes as ever will be be on the the forward statement after I’ve enjoyed the recap on what I think has been a great year business wise, despite the extraordinary times.

[ridicule] 28/7/2020 08:06

SuperG your post above, emulates precisely how unpleasant and toxic this thread has become and I will not respond to it.

[grabster] 28/7/2020 08:01

So many actors, pretending to be shareholders, then pretending to have sold the shares they pretended to have held.

Now and then, one of them exits the stage, dons a different costume and reenters the play. Pretends to be another shareholder and subsequently pretends to have sold them.

The audience yawns - some of them drifting to the bar for a time-out. Come back to their seats to see yet another repeat of the same scene.

Zzzzzz..

[ridicule] 28/7/2020 07:59

Your observation is correct to an extent RTG, but there are two aspects where it is misleading. First, the Lanstead sharing agreement is not a passive ‘loan secured’ scenario as you infer. It has a dynamic ratchet embedded in it, that can significantly erode its value the longer the share price stays below 53.5p, and that is where it is at the moment. The results will have a real effect on that ratchet if they are poor. Second, NR had a declared strategy at launch whereby the traditional businesses would support the graphene related businesses. Notwithstanding the Covid factor, which impacted for a small element of the reporting period, AAC in particular could have developed quite simple moulded parts that were the same as the parts they have been contracted to produce, but incorporated Nanene for increased strength, durability and light weighting as a USP. Such an achievement would also have acted as a shop window for the wider collaborations, both in terms of “practice what you preach” and as a technology demonstrator. This does not seem to have happened and there is little evidence of Nanene on the AAC website. If the results are poor, it will highlight that the original strategy isn’t working and, in the light of no large orders from any of the many collaborations over a long period of time now, this is likely to put pressure on the share price ( if the results are poor) and I think it is misleading to suggest otherwise.

I agree with the rest of your sentiment that VRS are well placed to become a leading company, as high end graphene starts to be widely utilised. That moment has yet to come and I hope for all our sakes that it arrives very soon.

[superg1] 28/7/2020 07:55

IT seems faulty obvious RTG

China are absolutely desperate for real graphene to start the graphene revolution, entire industrial areas earmarked for such work and VRS at the heart of it.

VRS it seems have said no so far to whatever is on offer and obviously the UK gov have had a close eye on it all along. After all you need UK got approval to do such business with China.

There is a way around that where no approval is needed, so while it may seem a there could be tether in place, it can be easily by-passed as explained to me by someone with material Chinese business experience.

UK gov clearly want, VRS UK Graphene to have the UK stamp retained on it.

[superg1] 28/7/2020 07:37

VRS

They appear to have said no to the terms China wanted and it seems the UK Government have stepped in perhaps not wanting the Chinese government to possibly gain the UK (VRS) IP, which would make the Chinese billions and in time trillions.

Legally binding as in the news re the £5 mill. Obviously some very serious conversations have been going on with the UK government.


Matt Walker in a head position, in the DIT, knowing the news coming, knowing what the VRS future looks like. He gave up his lead gov job and has moved got VRS, that speaks volumes.

That alone should tell all what is coming, but it will be on VRS terms.

Investors to me seem fixated on a few basic points when there is a huge amount of variety in the VRS business plan, as no doubt will be seen very shortly.

The market is distracted by Covid related shares and gold, the herd is off chasing those trends.

The graphene trend will embed itself at some point, but like all shares there are some that have a gold mine but many that claim to have one but it never evolves into anything.

[rogerthegrouch] 28/7/2020 07:24

I personally think it’s illogical to value essentially a pre-revenue stock on its financial accounts but it’s everyone’s prerogative to choose their measures. As long as there is cash (which there is courtesy of grants, loans and lanstead) what you really should be focused on it updates on the potential imo. So progress on collaborations and maturation of the business.