Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[festario] 13/11/2019 21:45

Clubbie... your best ever post Sir.

[rogerthegrouch] 13/11/2019 21:44

Versarien will control the supply chain so have a lot of control over the price. The scale of the arch and masts is immense and it wouldn’t need to be that cheap to make the business case viable. The savings on man power, installation, downtime, training, kit etc is impressive. That’s probably why it’s so appealing winning awards and getting global recognition. Tonight we learnt the Chinese are interested. We already know the UK is, and as Aecom is an American company it would be safe to assume the US is keen too. VRS is going global

[willoicc] 13/11/2019 21:32

Product pricing is commercially sensitive. That is why NO companies EVER give out pricing information, especially to trolls.

[ashehzi] 13/11/2019 21:27

Jas44, Are you on evening shift doing overtime?

[jas44] 13/11/2019 21:24

No one has yet to hazard a guess at just how much graphene revenue each arch will bring in for VRS... you don't want to because you know it will be pitifully small otherwise it would not make commercial sense

[loglorry1] 13/11/2019 21:21

Say they do go into production with this railway arch. I can't really see why its so exciting. 1000 arches at say 1Kg of graphene (1% loading) is about 1MT of graphene.

Say a very healthy price of £60/kg that's a £60K sale. It's immaterial again. No idea what gross margin is but if its a 1/3rd of capacity you are probably looking at 4months production and 500K of capex spend for the 3T machine over the year (depreciation 10%) so I can't imagine margins are much better than 30%. £20K gross profit?

Just throwing numbers out there because as usual we are left with no information on hard numbers. Doesn't look exciting and that's the better one!

[markyboy5] 13/11/2019 21:04

hxxps://www.tevonews.com/functional-apparel-news/2203-microsoft-files-patent-for-new-smart-fabric

Microsoft looks to be is aiming to compete with tech rivals Google and Apple in the rapidly-growing smart fabric market with a new patent published by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO).

Entitled 'Electronically Functional Yarn', Microsoft patent number number 20190327832 envisions a piece of fabric that has computer-based technology woven into it.

The details of the patent illustrate a weave structure showing how electronically functional yarns would be woven among electronically non-functional yarns.

[1teepee] 13/11/2019 20:19

Actually it does say for 3D printing , so it seems you're right

[1teepee] 13/11/2019 20:19

hTTps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numerical_controlI doubt that considering it's 3D printed

[2dinvestor] 13/11/2019 20:14

Computer numerical control technology.

[1teepee] 13/11/2019 20:10

What's cnct actually stand for? Anyone aware?

[1teepee] 13/11/2019 20:07

Graphene Is much more complicated than rocket science, as it's a quantum science

[hattie1] 13/11/2019 20:07

Great end to the day then AECOM talking to China re the Arch .... belt n roads initiative comes to mind ... Maybe South Korea next don’t they have the worlds largest underground system ...

[forestfred] 13/11/2019 19:57

Luckyo
Thanks for the thread.
That should do it .
Another one bites the dust like swatting flies .
Ff

[luckyorange] 13/11/2019 19:51

"Aecom has produced a graphene arch using additive manufacturing techniques. It believes the method could reduce the time and cost of installing digital signalling systems and transform the digitisation of transport networks.

The company’s CNCTArch is designed to drive down the costs associated with installing digital signalling systems on transport networks. Using a graphene arch that sits over rail tracks eliminates the need to attach new digital equipment to existing infrastructure.

Graphene is famously super-light and super-strong. The 4.5-metre high, lightweight arch is being tested on outdoor track at Network Rail’s workforce development centre in Bristol.

Aecom employees came up with the concept of CNCTArch in response to its transport clients’ challenges around the cost and time of digitising the signalling systems on their networks. The company looked at replacing the traditional bolt and screws method of deploying digital systems in tunnels, which takes four shifts to install, by developing an arch on which the digital technology is attached, that doesn’t bolt to any existing infrastructure and takes only one shift to install. The CNCTArch can be used in both tunnels and open environments and has the potential to transform the deployment of digital traffic management systems, Aecom believes.

Aecom is working with Network Rail’s Western region team and its Bristol Parkway signalling training school to test the arch. Sensors have been installed to monitor how the arch performs in different weather conditions, measuring oscillation and deflection. The six-month trial is the next step towards commercialising the product.

Related Information
Aecom has partnered with UK engineering firm Scaled to develop the detailed design and prototypes of the CNCTArch using large-scale 3D-printing techniques. Scaled uses its 3D printer, one of the largest in Europe, to print the product in the new graphene-reinforced polymer, which is supplied by Aecom’s materials partner Versarien. A UK-based advanced engineering materials group, Versarien has developed and manufactures the graphene material for CNCTArch.

Mark Southwell, Aecom managing director – civil infrastructure UK & Ireland, said: “With many of our global transport clients facing capacity and performance pressures, they are looking for cheaper, faster and safer ways to modernise their networks. Aecom’s CNCTArch is a great example of how our people are innovating to find solutions in response to specific client challenges. Finding new ways to drive the greatest efficiencies and minimise disruptions for passengers are key as our clients look to digitise their networks.

“Working with SMEs, we’re using the very latest 3D-printing techniques and graphene materials to develop our product. Installing the arch on the outdoor track and working with Network Rail to test its performance is an important step towards gaining product acceptance and bringing the CNCTArch to market.”


Shorting fraternity using weaker arguments all of the time, gets on me bloody nerves though, nothing more than that.

Out of 500 different designs and materials that arch was chosen because of it being lightweight, durable , cheaper to install , straightforward to manufacture, flexibility, modular, simple to replace, time saving , less disruptive .... could go on but quite simply the best solution for the problem.

And it is not only the arch which has probably completed the testing at this time so it is good to be reminded... thanks shorter.

[2dinvestor] 13/11/2019 19:32

Polygrene, just to remind people why it's about more than just 3d printing here's a repost of this link https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/aecom-makes-breakthrough-with-3d-printed-graphene-arch

[davemac3] 13/11/2019 19:25

is it Polygrene or nanene in the arch?

[markyboy5] 13/11/2019 19:21

JAS44 filtered

[markyboy5] 13/11/2019 19:20

JAS44 SEEMS YOUR NEW ON advfn. Member from today .
What a terrible way to attempt to make money.
Nothing genuine about you , jealous and bully spring to mind

[woodpeckers] 13/11/2019 19:19

jas, I think you'll find many different composites were tried and Polygrene won hands down...perhaps one of the reasons AECOM describe Versarien as their "materials partner".

[melf] 13/11/2019 19:18

Is someone getting a little worried.....who are Aecom anyway :-)

[jas44] 13/11/2019 19:05

Go on lucky take a lucky guess.

As said before graphene isnt the innovation of the Aecom Arch otherwise you'd be hearing aecom guys shouting about it. Instead they're talking about the 3D printing innovation. Thats what gets them excited. No doubt they could do exactly the same with a carbon fibre composite.

Some folks starting to sweat after the share price drop. Shouldn't listen to ricketts blind ramps so much, lesson coming for some. Thankfully I have reduced my position to a more sensible level so in the now off chance this does come good I can benefit but will not get hurt badly if this falls hard