Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[superg1] 08/8/2019 11:34

John

Little chance of branding imo the big names will want to give it their own name and stamp.

It seems to be something that will launch soon so there are bound to be some related trademark names out there, or due to be registered

[luminoso] 08/8/2019 11:31

Ditto jointer

[serratia] 08/8/2019 11:30

JV,

I worked for a company that had a unique product for the food/beverage area. Negotiations with a major global brand became tetchy as they were told - you have to put this logo on all products using our material.
There followed a lot of ranting - we're a major global company you don't tell us what to do with our packaging. Us - yes you do if you want the product. They told us to take a hike. We agreed a deal with their largest competitor who used our logo. It took off rapidly and we were pushed to keep up with demand.
Eventually the first company had to come back for the product but couldn't face talking to us so hired a go between to conduct the talks. For the first time they couldn't bully a supplier. They were told - this is the price, this is the logo and even this is how much you add to your products.
Their CEO a long time later said that was the biggest mistake our company ever made, we were just so unaccustomed to a supplier telling us what to do.

So if you have a unique product and only you can supply it you have a very strong position in any negotiations. There are similarities here.

[jointer13] 08/8/2019 11:29

i think the same johnb5

[johnb5] 08/8/2019 11:09

Can't see the BIGT deal being less than £1.45, given progress from the last fund raise. So opportunity to buy at 20% discount now.

[cheek212] 08/8/2019 11:05

The fact is, once the BIGT deal goes through, it will shore up exactly what everybody has been saying about the company for the last few years, being the real deal, and the naysayers will no longer have an argument. Bring it on.

[harrysol] 08/8/2019 11:04

Neil's tweet re the 15% and offer to pi's. The plot thickens.

[luckyorange] 08/8/2019 11:04

Could be the PI's that he is talking about have a more significant amount to invest than the average PI and they only want to invest when the BIGT deal takes place. Any II's interested will want more shares than the market can supply, think bigger PI's and that is where the smaller PI will benefit. The placing that the above will participate in will be at a premium to the market price at the time, why worry if you have bought your shares at a lower price?

[harrysol] 08/8/2019 10:59

Richafling - I think you're right. As ever, thank you for the replies. What ever happens, the share price will rise on the basis that BIGT is likely to involve a big deal/order.

[chimpandy1] 08/8/2019 10:58

I stand corrected. Just seen Neil's Twitter.

[20pc] 08/8/2019 10:46

jen that would be good as long as the deal price is above the price that you buy at. We won't know the price until the day of announcement. It maybe at an average over the a previous number of days. NRs reply "We are trying to do 3 things at the same time bigt, ii's and pi's all on same terms" raises a few questions for me. PIs are unlikely to be able to take their full entitlement, will the difference be made available to bigt or instis? Who are Instis he mentions are they already on the shareholder list or are they new Instis lined up, there should be a few interested on the news. Will the bigt holding be 15% of the new total shares or 15% of the amount before the Pi's & Insti amount.

[bisho4] 08/8/2019 10:46

Harrysol, atm it seems not worth it for PIs, but if a placing is announced along with a deal or a massive cash injection at a higher sp, then the share price will rise to meet the placing price.

If the placing were to exclude PIs, and the share price were to rise above the placing price, then PIs would feel shafted.

[richafling] 08/8/2019 10:46

No reason the offering cannot have a 2 tier price offer , an open PI /II price and a institutional BIGT price say at a xx % premium

[chillpill] 08/8/2019 10:44

Neill has implied for a while now that any deal is not likely to be at a discount to market which makes sense.

[harrysol] 08/8/2019 10:41

I'm not sure how the next placing will work if it involves BIGT paying a premium and yet it includes ii's and pi's. Why would ii's or pi's pay a premium? Sorry if I'm asking an idiot club frog question!!!

[pandeck] 08/8/2019 10:33

Fireball XL5
8 Aug '19 - 08:02 - 76024 of 76045
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"There we go again. Neill mentions the dreaded B word on occasion."

Why did you then decide to make an 8 lines post about the subject?

[alchemy] 08/8/2019 10:21

Any thoughts ? Yes what a logical and benign ramper! Lol

[graphenejen] 08/8/2019 10:20

Neill was asked this question on Twitter: ‘Is it still expected shareholders will get an opportunity to invest on the BIGT terms?’ This response makes very good sense to me: ‘PIs can buy now, it reduces supply and pushes up the price which means more of a premium for BIGT. Why wait?’. Any thoughts?

[johnveals] 08/8/2019 10:10

For me the really interesting thing for sportswear will be the branding issue, will the name Versarien or some other Versarien brand feature on the garment. Sports teams are paid to wear clothing with advertising, will they wear a Versarien brand without payment from Versarien, or will the payment from the major sports brand cover any Versarien branding.

This is a real marketing challenge in the process of establishing long term value for Versarien.

[superg1] 08/8/2019 09:57

So when NR says those in collaboration are really pleased with the results, they are pleased because the performance upgrades which makes a better product allowing bigger and better claims than rivals with increased sales and margins.

A new wave of sportswear, better performing than what they have ever produced before.

[superg1] 08/8/2019 09:55

On the thermal textile stuff. One one sorts top I have (Adidas I think) it has some dots on the shoulder area to help cooling, it does feel cold in that area when I put it on.

In fact Adidas have built a whole brand around keeping cooler it's called Climacool and has been around for years.

This shows the obsession sports companies have with the next new idea, an obsession as they know it makes them billions.

EG

Just as movies have gone 3-D, the Adidas designers conceived their core golf fabric in three dimensions. They began by using sophisticated thermal imaging, including infrared cameras, to come up with a body map, in 3-D, of the key areas of heat and sweat generated by a golfer’s body. Advanced technologies were then used to address the needs of each area, in varying climactic conditions.

The fabric used in a ClimaCool shirt pulls sweat away from the body and increases micro-ventilation through strategically placed mesh panels — for example, under the arms or at the back of the neck. No more sticky back, with your shirt plastered to your frame. ClimaCool golf shirts use CoolMax Extreme fabric, one of the fastest drying garment fabrications available. It also drapes beautifully on the body. For extra cooling, there is CoolMax Energy, which increases airflow to the skin. For optimal swing freedom, golfers can choose a shirt with Formotion, a leaner-fitting Adidas design with additional stretch properties in the fabric and special seam technology that minimizes irritation throughout the golf swing.

[alchemy] 08/8/2019 09:42

Beware slight slight of sleight hand here. When we do a raise the price at which we hit Unicorn Status will fall.

[alchemy] 08/8/2019 09:37

It's good it lifts now on non RNS days.Especially days which were down for mystically driven news.This time last year we were headed for two peaks of 180/90. I recall adding a little on a breakout. Never mind , very soon.