Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[jointer13] 07/8/2019 11:29

i'm with you on that sg..i reckon they will move quickly on the sports.

"We look forward to continuing to work with this Partner with the goal of introducing graphene enhanced high performance sports wear to the market as soon as possible."

[willoicc] 07/8/2019 11:22

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[superg1] 07/8/2019 11:17

So are you one of the shorting crew then, I see you message some of the same guys Tim Kempster does.

Just saying.

If you work on numbers then I get the doomsayers view that's what they do.

But then it was fine for Nano and QFI to be double the value of VRS on one name connected ,but not VRS with dozens connected on far more massive potential, government staff and the biggest economies looking to take a chunk of the company.

VRS don't lie, to base a bet on that is a road to ruin. They either will or won't seal the deals, there are a lot of them, this is not a binary bet.

The textile one, with what looks like most of the sports world involved, wasn't even on the menu, yet it could transform the company.

Sports companies move quickly and they quite clearly are with the graphene performance gain, made with textiles and other materials.

Hey who know Nike or Adidas could end up sticking VRS enabled sports kit ads within games like Fifa. :-)

[spike_1] 07/8/2019 11:08

Fair enough CS - see you at the AGM.

[axotyl] 07/8/2019 11:07

Hopefully Sept. 2022

[club sandwich] 07/8/2019 10:57

Nice podcast. Credit where it's due - on a good day he talks very well.

He reckons an update on the arches 'in a few weeks'. His words, not mine.

OK, fair enough, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt one last time. I'll hold off any further criticism until the AGM. Let's see if he delivers BIGT and an actual order from Aecom by then. Again, his words not mine, he has promised both.

See you all in September.

[andy] 07/8/2019 10:52

Superg,


TW has called Fox Marble wrong too, his bull calls are nowhere near as accurate as his bear calls, that's for sure.


I don't like the idea of shorting small caps, but anything over �100 million cap is fair game I think.


I went to a Haydale open day, to see their technology, which was impressive, and they ran the event very well. After returning and looking through their accounts it was clear it was very high risk due to their cash burn, not one for me after that.


I believe graphene has a huge future, concrete is one area, the power grid is another, as it is far more efficient than copper. It's the commercialisation that's the difficult bit, let's hope the Chinese invest as sufficient cash will give them a far better chance until sales come along.

[superg1] 07/8/2019 10:50

I am all for investigating and pointing out frauds.

I am massively against lies for gain. Not once did I ever make a penny on pointing out AGM lies for Haydale.

That was about warning PIs, just like I did on GDL and PRG, some listen and saved a fortune some didn't and lost their shirts.

Shares can be hit by unknowns and unfortunate events, that is different game. Fraud and deceit is a different category altogether.

PIs get sucked into shares being focused on all the positives, they hear all the good parts, FOMO and thoughts of riches cloud their view.

No amount of real evidence even hidden dug out hidden court documents showing it's F'd convinces them. The smart ones listen and GTF out, but the lemmings form the majority on the AIM.

[superg1] 07/8/2019 10:41

Andy

If BUR are a bunch of Spivs then I hope they get done.

Equally if the bears are wrong then they will surely be done via the legal route.

I just can't get my head into shorting, otherwise I would have made plenty on Avanti, SQM, RB energy, AGM, Haydale, IP group, HNR, GDL, Falanx and dozens of others.

The issue with Spiv Aim companies when shorting is once you realise they lie and hide bad news then you are at the mercy of not knowing whether the Nomad and company are working together on the fraud, so big false news can drop at any point.

TW was a pumper of falanx and I knew the CEO was lying, TW fell for it, I didn't. I did warn him but he as always knew best, the same goes for OBT. Evening standard tips of a buy out (probably leaked by the TW crew) was all created by OBT and the mugs like TW fell for it, as they rubbed shoulders with them.

Ignore the fluff and hot air, concentrate on facts by doing your own research.

TW calls VRS a lie which is bloody hilarious.

[anley] 07/8/2019 10:28

Thank you Mike for the VOX link............where I must say NR was at his best.

China is a problem area and I do wonder if VRS can pull off the deal before the AGM. There has to be a resolution between the USA and China on trade but there also has to be a resolution as to what Hong Kong is and will continue to be.

We shall have to sit tight and wait...................

[superg1] 07/8/2019 10:25

The AIM will want VRS to stay put, don't forget the Aim bosses have had VRS as guests at lunch etc. (

The AIM is a cesspit, they will do all they can to keep the good guys as an example of what can be achieved through the AIM.

VRS is in the promise period and hence is open season for the scumbags to lie about. That's what it is lies as recently demonstrated in detail that they know nothing about the business.

The main theme is Neill is lying, the big names are false.

Could have fooled me I saw the prototype being tested. It looked real to me, quite an elaborate hoax that and persuading a huge company to be in on the fraud with risk of causing huge damage to their reputation.

Most odd. They have managed to drag other UK companies into it too. That must be a false picture and details about who made it, a fake factory.

The extent that charlatan Neill Rickets will go to is beyond comprehension isn't it Tom.

Frigging hilarious, what a muppet TW is.

[andy] 07/8/2019 10:18

Superg1,


I agree with your comment, but sadly many others WILL panic and you could get left holding the baby. Looking at BUR this morning, imagine if you had held on! You'll never get everyone to hold their nerve.


Always prudent to at least sell a few, you can always buy back later, and in the case of BUR, currently today, at a significant discount to what you would have sold at.


I feel for BUR holders who are affected by this, they are the real victims, not the company.

[superg1] 07/8/2019 10:16

Lovat

re BUR

It's obviously the US guy that has done research. I had a dim view re the IP group and how they calculated things. In there case it was just a license to make things up.

Obviously for me clouded by the fact their chief investment officer was on the AGM BOD and did F all about the lies. They did say I could have a meeting with him, my reply was along the lines of not my job to caution him then ask questions.

Long story short the IP group share price is now over 50% down, so my limited observations it seems were correct.

TERN has been playing the same game hence knowing the IP group and their games I was against TERN from the off.

TERN it now seems is just going to have to keep bailing out DA.

On the BUR front who knows perhaps the US guy is right and they have playing numbers game.

What is frigging ridiculous is the 2nd RNS saying "oh we haven't reviewed the report yet" which has caused a big dive after a 20% rise on the first RNS.

I just watch these events from the sidelines for experience. How many got caught out on RNS 1 v RNS 2, traders will have been caned there.

As I say with these events greed dominates, common sense goes out of the window, its best to just stand on the pavement, watch the traffic go by and see what happens. You can't account for MMs games, over-geared positions, stop losses, margin calls, CFDs and the like.

The pavement is safe place, no black swan can run you over when you are on the pavement.

[nellyb] 07/8/2019 10:12

amt, your trading beggars belief! glad you are not managing my money! ;)

[grabster] 07/8/2019 09:59

Cheek - I agree with Lovat Scout on that point. Mainmarket is a much more expensive place to list - far more expensive - a wasteful extravagance for a small company. And it definitely does not protect against shorting attacks - I've seen many over the years. I do expect Versarien to take up a main market listing eventually, and to also list on Nasdaq and China markets - but not yet please.

[phoenixs] 07/8/2019 09:53

Maybe I should not be surprised but it is incredible that a few people, having made a load money out of buying VRS shares, are now critical of the company, the way that it is being run and personally rude about and to the board. What a load of low lives they are. They should be ashamed of themselves but that is too much to expect from such a rabble.

[lovat scout] 07/8/2019 09:50

Cheek - Muddywaters targets companies globally and a main market listing does not provide me with extra comfort. I am not passing judgement on BUR but not sure an expensive listing move will achieve much for VRS at this point in time.

On a more positive note, BUR should keep the Shareprophets gang tied up for a while.....

AIMHO

[johnveals] 07/8/2019 09:50

Cheek - How would stronger policies and checks prevent the spreading of misinformation, lies and associated short selling for fraudulent financial gain.

[superg1] 07/8/2019 09:49

Amt

You just days ago

"Chopsy between you and me the other opportunity I am investing in is SRT.
I have kept a few VRS just for fun."

"Even after the latest seemingly good news I am afraid sentiment is against Vrs. I decided to sell most of my investment today."

Yesterday

"Sentiment against VRS. It will take a lot to reverse trend given the last 2 updates didn't help"

Today

"The China deal will change sentiment completely so the share price could go through the roof. I decided I don't want to risk missing out."


You have just advertised yourself as the type of PI I warn about as headless chickens.

So now FOMO has kicked in on VRS when nothing changed, you sold due to a post and piled into SRT hoping for a rise (FOMO) which I assume you have now bailed out due to FOMO on VRS.

[runthejoules] 07/8/2019 09:44

Laundry day in Manchester is usually 7th august, yeah, but it's been cancelled due to rain for the last few year like ..

[woodpeckers] 07/8/2019 09:42

Good to see everyone is holding on tight! 😊

[andymoore07] 07/8/2019 09:41

The same happened with IQE and Muddy Waters

[cheek212] 07/8/2019 09:34

For anyone wondering why I have said on numerous that we need to get off of AIM, may I refer you to Burford Capitals share performance in the last two days, having now been short attacked by Muddy waters who have published a so called report on the business. True or not, very few businesses on the main market suffer these same short attacks as they deem to have stronger policies and checks in place. My biggest regret is that I have no spare cash to pile on today!

[scottishfield] 07/8/2019 09:26

Wednesday's laundry day then?