Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[luckyorange] 06/7/2019 10:32

That was a great link Global Nomad and there is a long discussion about the benefits of graphene in the car giving a 15% plus weight saving, I think people missed it due to distractions.

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NEW BAC Mono R: In-Depth First Look, 2019 Goodwood FoS | Carfection

talks about use of graphene in carbon composite panels to reduce weight/increase strength. if you're not interested in the car the graphene mention is at 2:45

[luckyorange] 06/7/2019 10:18

Strange that starting in a garage should put anyone off, always reminds me of Amway, which started in a garage and they were touting this amazing vacuum cleaner which was disruptive at the time and cost a lot of money off them.

Took James Dyson a few years to get his rights back on that one , but he did and he has done ok. Don't know why he isn't using VRS graphene in the products... he will!

[herschel k] 06/7/2019 10:17

Well....... Nanene earphones delivered this morning.As an amateur audiophile and an engineer.....have to admit for 45 quid these are ridiculously good.Crystal clear top end but the bass delivery is outstanding for an ear bud system.Now I've heard these I'm wondering if my floorstanding speakers would benefit from nanene.NR make it happen please lol

[dgduncan] 06/7/2019 10:13

You are on a roll SG. Thanks for your thoughts.
With the mention of Total Carbide - any thoughts as to why they are not mentioned in the latest corporate presentation ?.

[20pc] 06/7/2019 10:07

luckyorange good to see you back on here, ah yes the 10p days when trades were sometimes few and far between, I originally came from the lse board forestfred was another over there, sometimes there were days between posts.

Superg1 thanks for all your efforts over the years, you need skin as thick as a rhino to do what you have done regarding monitoring the board. I have told many people over the years about VRS, a few have bought in. At the end of the day it seems that lots of people almost don't like to hear that a little ol company started in a garage could get to being on the cusp of something quite so amazing. I think that must be a British thing. Anyway it would seem that we are nearly there, at the tipping point for VRS. Well done to Neill and the team and all those at VRS who keep it ticking along.

[superg1] 06/7/2019 10:06

Johnveals

As I recall someone posted that Sam Patel was in the UK.

Having checked I see the share price took off around that time.

So yes It makes me curious.


On the product front, I took it that Arrowgreen were excited about what graphene does for soluble plastics. I couldn't find anything at the time and haven't really looked since, it would have been confidential.

I was wondering whether use of graphene gave the soluble plastic a longer lifespan perhaps opening up markets and solving part of the plastics issue.

On that point I am SPECULATING.

I think tyres were mentioned, bank notes and of course the option for a manufacturing facility for India.

Arrowgreen were not my focus but I may have a hunt around. I have my eye on something much bigger, besides BIGT.

[superg1] 06/7/2019 10:01

So on that point


I can assure you twitter group that certain investors among you are seriously misleading you. The conclusion by many is that it must be for gain.

VRS are well aware and who puts out the false info. It's a private group. Sound offs on here are purely to make you aware.

I know it is hard to trust anyone and I say don't trust anything posted on ADVFN or that group, do your own research.

Plenty in that group (if they are still there) are solid folk and I have known some for years.

Sadly all of this comes about from the deceitful minority, the noise.

Plenty get sucked in time and time again, I watched it in great detail on PRG and of course Haydale to a lesser extent. A friend lost everything on PRG, they were personally telling him what I was saying was untrue. It was true and it plenty lost a lot of money.
I had a message recently form one asking if I would help recover their losses. Sadly I don;t have the time right now.

I haven't forgotten that some large holders here also held Haydale and were quite defensive about it. I guess they sold out long ago, perhaps based on the information being shared. I know one fund manager did having been advised by 'us' not to invest in the first place. It cost him a bit but he sold out pre the 2p collapse based on our advice.

Personal attacks follow on those trying to help, the crooks play the victim to create some smoke, poor me etc.

I am a holder of what I consider to be a good amount of VRS shares and will continue to do so.

I have always had VRS shares since the date the thread first started. I did have some pre graphene appearing but did sell those when the oil troubles hit as it was going to affect Total Carbide and did.

Early in the year I had a trading account for daily bad news shares trading, IE any big dips, if the circs were right I'd buy and trade periods of minutes, it trebled up, it's fairly decent system with discipline. It's not for the faint hearted. For the last few months I've been too busy for that.

[luckyorange] 06/7/2019 09:34

I ticked that one up just for sheer volume of content superg 😉

Reminds me of the 10p days all over again just add a zero! I wonder if people will be saying in the near future about wishing they had bought more at £1, I have a feeling that they will.

However to buy or sell is always an individual decision , it has all been mapped out and you pays your money!

[superg1] 06/7/2019 09:18

I just had a quiet 10 min thinking how mad all of this is and I wonder how VRS cope with it all.

It doesn't seem that long ago when sounded off about that idiot Neill Ricketts taking on that money pit idea from the university of Manchester.

After a brief exchange it was abundantly clear he thought that too until the Manchester guys dragged him up there and showed him what they were doing and what could be achieved.

Back then NR said to me, over 10 layers doesn't work, performance starts to fall off a cliff.

He soon learned that even if told I check everything out and hence eventually I got to see production in action, it works.

I spent months with 2 others researching why multi-layer doesn't work, we shared that in 100's of posts on here.

My main worry back then was not the graphene but dispersion.

So with the hype Haydale they were putting out, I thought they had it cracked and were producers. So obviously I started to look deeply into them as an investment. I chatted to a scientist or two on the tech. I quickly learn that they produce nothing and were middle men perhaps largely not needed. They had product of 50 layers for sale on Goodfellow, that simple isn't graphene it's graphite, they were dealing in junk. The rest is a long story but they hid negatives and deceived the market imo. I tried hard to warn PIs, that is my agenda, getting facts out there, sorting through company BS, if it exists.

So I warned about Haydale. Same re AGM, I looked into them on the synthetic version, they had big claims. As proved it was full of lies and that share price collapsed too.


So for me in terms of product, opportunity and the team, VRS were streets ahead.

So I thought it could be big possibly as high as £1.50 per share in the future, Now I dare not guess could be £15 to £150, I'll just have to wait and see.

Well what has happened since that time is just completely beyond the imagination of what I, any shareholder, or the VRS team could have possibly imagined.

This is absolutely nuts and some of us have been here since the early days. Some I have met were there at the start, day 1 before graphene ever featured.

Just to add Rid, some that (unknowingly to me) had been tracking shares I post on and now are the biggest PI shareholders in VRS, some don't post here. I now have contact with them week in week out, sometimes daily.

We trust each other, we trust each others research. we don't do BS. That collective grows and new solid guys appear. Mike Brenner is a star in that regard imo, but he is not one of the original crew I mention, I've just got to know him when he suddenly appeared here.

It's the silent LTHs most don't see. They are very excited about the prospects and pay little attention to the junk spouted by some.


I sound off about some deceit going on. The whole point of threads for me is about keeping things in line on facts.

I spoke to VRS before I started the thread and asked them to advise me if anything was going off in the wrong direction and I would get the facts out there, delete posts including my own.

VRS like all AIM companies are obliged to monitor threads for any info that might be considered inside. EG we have forced an RNS unwittingly as some details were public, unknown to VRS.

So that's what I do, I'm trying to help. Some incorrect info I leave IF it doesn't become a topic. Some PIs just don't have the level of knowledge others have and they have poor experiences on ADVFN, thus their confidence can easily be knocked and manipulated.


Anyone that thinks it is an agenda is simply confusing that with what 90% of ADVFN is about. I know I'm honest and that everything I post is believed to be true.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. IF I am speculating, trying to join the dots, I write clearly stating I am speculating.

IF I use the words suspect or believe it's because I think there is a more than a fair chance it's going to appear or is in the pipeline. Obviously things can hit the wall and not appear.


I will sound off but its not necessarily just my view, I may get many messages prior from the unseen holders commenting about those trying to mislead others.

[luckyorange] 06/7/2019 09:10

Hasn't happened yet would be correct, I believe it is the school that has delayed on the project and easy enough to check with them if it is a genuine concern however I seem to remember a tweet that they made regarding that particular subject a few months back, everything takes time.

Trying to get a handle on what the bigt investment will do for the company and doesn't make sense to be short VRS knowing that is going to happen but each to their own.

A solid investor base in VRS which makes shorting really difficult, don't know why they bother to be honest .

[johnveals] 06/7/2019 09:00

Tweeted by Sam Patel ‘India to be The Hub for EV cars. Great news for Arrow-VRS Graphene!!’. I wonder whether this is related to the recent doubling of Arrow Greentech share price??

[ridicule] 06/7/2019 08:32

Thanks for your comments Fest, Gillie is still in the boot, but making some progress. I sympathise with you over Dean Haigh, he sounds very obnoxious.

[ad631] 06/7/2019 07:32

IGTV: NR(@ 4:55) '....more and more people actually taking on board their own investment decisions...' - pleased I did. Still have the belief VRS will be one of the best share price performers of 2019 :}

[alchemy] 06/7/2019 05:19

It's early but dear Leader has tweeted but three or so hours ago.

[evergreen8] 06/7/2019 00:27

Ridicule Thank you for reminding us that while we have invested our funds in VRS for our personal gain we owe our gratitude and loyalty to all those at VRS who have invested their professional careers to build our company to become a global giant for our betterment.

To everyone else in the VRS family I hope that you take great comfort from the fact that NR has reaffirmed (with appropriate caviats) that the arrangements with BIGT are on schedule for September. At which point we will be part of the largest manufacturing set up in the World.
I suspect that any reticence the HNWI and institutions may have had to invest prior to that point will be mitigated by the knowledge that the Chinese state will dictate the adoption of our product across a wide range of industry sectors, that the raw material supply chain has been secured and that many of the provinces are looking to host the manufacturing to meet local demand.

Please just stop for a moment and try to comprehend the scale that this will quickly become when the Chinese state funds the construction of the factories in an effort to start making headway into meeting their 600,000,000kg annual demand for high quality Graphene.

How many production lines in how many factories in how many provinces they will be able to fund and build in the short term is anyone’s guess.

Pursuit of our Global ambitions will also be aided by completion of arrangements with Beijing with their circa £20m investment that will help establish the infrastructure for the markets in the USA, Korea and India then there are the multi nations such as Aecom and the new UAE city NEOM etc etc etc.

The scale is off the chart - Imho the future is bright ...............
GLALTH

[1teepee] 05/7/2019 23:28

This thread is about Vrs , not you!

[shavian] 05/7/2019 22:35

Faint heart never won fair lady!

[dtaliadoros] 05/7/2019 22:08

Sat next to a delightful lady from AECOM on my flight to Zurich tonight. Was tempted to ask her about graphene and vrs .....but then I wouldnt want to be accused of insider information so we talked about other delightful things instead.🤓

[1teepee] 05/7/2019 22:08

I am all in.

[pshevlin] 05/7/2019 20:43

OK Ridicule, Truce (If in fact we need one).As I intimated, if I had to recommend a share to anyone at the moment and one in which I have well over half my cash it would definitely be VRS.

[1teepee] 05/7/2019 20:35

Are you drunk?