Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[luckyorange] 12/11/2018 16:52

I will add that it doesn't matter how much you have invested , if it is all you could afford to then the risk is the same (smallfry comes to mind and he isn't forever posting the share price has gone down a few pence).

[axotyl] 12/11/2018 16:50

"...I bet you anything that NONE of those who slag me off have dared to invest as much as me, so why not? " - Fes

That's a reasonably insensitive question; ponder on the simple answer yourself?

[adejuk] 12/11/2018 16:45

btw
for those who don't know, earning a huge salary is the same a earning a small one
social mobility has ensured that we all end up feeling poor.

[timbo003] 12/11/2018 16:41

>>>>grabster, I have not said Haydale shares are a buy, I have said that the time to buy may be approaching, I still think it may be approaching, but I would like to see a final sell off accompanied by large volumes and some significant director purchases before I get my wallet out.

This might seem strange and alien to you, but some investors do not go all in on one share as many have done with Versarien, instead they have a portfolio containing many shares and within these portfolios there will inevitably be a quite a few dogs along with a few multi-baggers.

I use a portfolio approach and I tend to buy and hold rather than trade, it is a 100% certainty that you will get some wrong using such an approach. Furthermore most of my share purchases qualify for EIS tax reliefs, therefore I am required to hold for three years to get all the generous tax benefits, if after three years I am making a loss, I can dispose of the shares and claim 40% tax relief on my losses, so to take Haydale as an example, If they were to go bust, or I were to dispose of the shares for negligible value, I would recoup 40% of my initial net investment back in tax relief, that would be equivalent to 58.8p/share. Therefore Haydale shares are worth more dead than alive to me.

[schmally] 12/11/2018 16:41

Has anyone else noticed that Clubbie's posts are starting to sound more like Log's every day. It's almost as if he's now on the shorter gangs payroll and posting scripted drivel supplied by their ringmaster. Such a strange fella!!!

[hattie1] 12/11/2018 16:40

Festario thats just daft , perhaps those that havent invested as much as you havent got as much as you .. its all relative though .. my holding is as significant to me as yours clearly is to you

[rovi70] 12/11/2018 16:40

well said dear boy, had the same thoughts as you. money in, small sums but many, none sold and will continue to buy, but my glasses are Not rose tinted.

[luckyorange] 12/11/2018 16:40

People sell to prop up other shares , out and back as you have done in the past ade, when what they should really do is sell the losers and back the winners. Nothing to worry about here that I can see.

[tini5] 12/11/2018 16:39

"I bet you anything that NONE of those who slag me off have dared to invest as much as me, so why not? What are you frightened of? Or are you just playing at this with your pin money?"

Fest, we don't all have the amount of funds you do :-)

Ironically enough, I expect to within the next couple of years.

[club sandwich] 12/11/2018 16:36

hattie - well we differ on that, so I won't be selling thanks - not yet, at least.

I'm curious: if there are no orders in 6 months will you be concerned? 12 months? 18 months? 2 years? will there come a point where you start wondering why they're not delivering on the boundless potential?

[festario] 12/11/2018 16:33

All those who are calling me negative need to realise that when the value of your investment falls, it IS negative. Red numbers ARE negative, and minus values in your share account are indeed negative. It's a fact.All those who can see see nothing but blue sky here and simply revel in the research but don't care about the share price are fooling themselves. Either that, or they don't dare invest enough. I bet you anything that NONE of those who slag me off have dared to invest as much as me, so why not? What are you frightened of? Or are you just playing at this with your pin money?Somebody has been selling, and they continue to dump shares, and we do not know who or why, although some say they do know, but won't say.

[hattie1] 12/11/2018 16:33

Club
No not in the least concerned as I have like many of my fellow LTH done my due diligence in respect of the company and have absolute confidence in the board that they will deliver , if like yourself I was so concerned to believe they were failing in that I would sell .. simples

[luckyorange] 12/11/2018 16:31

Club Sandwich will be getting an invite from Tim to 'join the team' if he hasn't already.

[adejuk] 12/11/2018 16:30

more importantly
wtf is going on here?

[adejuk] 12/11/2018 16:29

agree fest but the rns will kill the iqe sp
40p tmrw?

[festario] 12/11/2018 16:25

I'd be more negative if I held IQE.Insider trading at its most blatant there today!

[club sandwich] 12/11/2018 16:24

hattie - you know how much all the research is worth? Not a red cent. Until and unless it all comes to fruition it isn't worth a bean. Yes it *could* all happen, but it won't *all* happen - there's no way it's all going to come VRS's way, so speculation is largely pointless. I have no doubts about the science or the potential - what I have doubts about is VRS's ability to deliver on it - and I'll have those doubts until the orders start coming in.

Aren't you yourself starting to wonder why it is that with so many collabs, and so many fingers in so many pies in so many countries, to date *nobody* has actually placed a significantly-large order? Why NR says "the next news has to be an order" and then it isn't - and two months later *still* isn't?

They are aware of the problem of course ("We are conscious that we need to establish formal relationships with the most appropriate parties") - but being aware of a problem and solving it are two completely different things...

[zooskeeper] 12/11/2018 16:24

I remember staying up to watch Dom on his ‘tea tray’. He was the only one that made time back after a slower start! I only put that down to one thing.

Was very excited then a tremendous amount has happened since then if you step back & see the bigger picture - still very excited.....

[loglorry1] 12/11/2018 16:15

"Unbelievable the negativity after all the great research that has been done"

All this "great research" is very general and applies to all graphene companies. Things like "Electric vehicles are the future" and "EVs need better batteries" are just blindingly obvious.

Why would this mean VRS should continue to trade at 9x it's peer group the "Twitter Multiple"?

Great research would be some kind of definitive proof as to why VRS has a considerable market advantage. So far none has been provided.

[hattie1] 12/11/2018 16:15

Agree Tini ... a select few alleged Lth ...

[adejuk] 12/11/2018 16:13

no phucking worries
i also go up and down
though less frequently than in my youff !!
i pray [in a jewish secular way ] for an intra-day rns that mentions £
phuck em