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[ellissj] 24/10/2018 11:37

Indeed serratia, good research imo. Best ellis

[occultusverum1] 24/10/2018 11:37

Youre not asking questions though are you Tim? Youre just making statements that you know to be false, or should know to be false if you did one iota of research

[club sandwich] 24/10/2018 11:34

mryl - wish we knew. see my post of about an hour ago...

[spike_1] 24/10/2018 11:31

serratia - those statistics are incredible!

[mryl] 24/10/2018 11:31

I was wondering.. is it possible that we will have one big China deal instead of several deals?
Like for instance one RNS to announce signature of MOU with several provinces and several JV at once? Or is it more likely to be done separately?

[serratia] 24/10/2018 11:28

Concrete 2 -

Few layer Graphene. It appears from another paper that FLG is beneficial in concrete properties. They observed a 146% increase in compressive strength, 79.5% increase in flexural strength and a decrease in the maximum displacement due to compressive loading by 78%. A decrease in water permeability by 400%.
Also a 50% reduction in the quantity of FLG/Concrete would still fulfill the specifications for the loading of buildings.
The 146% improvement in compressive strength compares with 50% using carbon nanotubes and 33% for Graphene oxide. A further comment implied that 300 layer Graphene was not the answer.

[festario] 24/10/2018 11:24

Log Lorry / Kempster.... your contact isn't answering his phone is he? I'm right aren't I? Hahahahahahah

[club sandwich] 24/10/2018 11:24

"How many stars are in the universe"

approx 100bn galaxies with approx 100bn stars in each.

you're welcome.

[ratpat999] 24/10/2018 11:22

The new 3 ton machine was to be installed in 2nd week of Dec as Neill said at AGM but now moved closer , brilliant news orders must be tangible 🚀

[superg1] 24/10/2018 11:20

How many stars are in the universe. How far is 100 million light years.

BTW at 1 mill miles per hour it would take (100 x 10 trillion to get to km).

It's just beyond comprehension and that's the way Gnps are and CVD re prices.

[club sandwich] 24/10/2018 11:19

so if delivery was December and it's been moved forward - next month sometime?

[jointer13] 24/10/2018 11:15

that is really interesting...wonder why the delivery date has moved forward.

somethings happening...bring it on !

[loglorry1] 24/10/2018 11:15

@sevenof9 Yes good post. I find the "typo" response very weak. There is nothing wrong with investors asking questions and seeking the truth. Kicking the tires makes you a good investor. Lapping up guff from the likes of SuperG to afirm your positive bias is more akin to being an excited puppy.

On the "typo" defense I wonder when that was discovered as the same data was also in the July presentation

Double typo?

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SuperG

I hold a considerable number of shares here and I have not sold any other than to transfer into ISA. I believe Tim is shorting but I also believe he has raised a question that VRS should answer. It was always a concern of mine whether scale up would replicate the results

To be fair to Tim you have raised lateral size as an important aspect. Tim is making the point that the average lateral size is no longer stated. There may be nothing sinister in that but it would help for VRS to clarify this issue.

Your post of 27 January explained why lateral size was important

The recent CPI tender where VRS won all tenders they applied for. Anyone worldwide could have applied.

hxxps://www.uk-cpi.com/login/resources/tenders/676-nanomaterials-and-composite-materials-1.pdf

some examples

Lot 8

2. Lateral dimensions 500nm - 2μm
3. Thickness <3nm

Lot 10

Lateral dimensions 2 - 5μm
Thickness – less than 7 layers on average

Now compare that to the one I thought was up with VRS. Thomas Swan in the UK.

They have 3 types of GNPs.

Material, Electrical and premium and they call them all graphene.

Starting with the best note the lateral size average of 1um.

Number average platelet size of Elicarb® Premium Grade Graphene Powder by TEM image analysis shows an average X-Y platelet dimension of 1000nm

Forget the other two they are listed as multi-layer and therefore will no longer be allowed to be called graphene.

Now back the the CPI tender.

Lateral dimensions 2 - 5μm

Lateral dimensions 500nm - 2μm

You can see that when Swam use their process they lose the lateral size needed for effective bonding with composites.

They don't try to mislead anyone either as this is what they list their use for.

Displays, sensors and device R&D.

You see if you don't get it exactly right then the full range of GNP gains is lost.

Now compare a 1 um average to Nanene which is 0.5μm to 10μm.

The surface area for bonding is multiples better than what swan have.

So in short In was told don't worry about Swan they smash their Gnps all to bits in their process. I checked it out and it's true.

TS have nothing to compete with Nanene and I had them as closest to VRS.

[anotherdrink] 24/10/2018 11:13

Sincere apologies to those who saw my GW Pharma link several times - still not showing on my bb page but shows several times in my posting history - usually I can see my own posts - probably filtered myself. Apologies again :)

[scottishfield] 24/10/2018 11:13

& tks hattie1

[superg1] 24/10/2018 11:12

Manduca should be there PR man Fest he'd fit in well there.

[scottishfield] 24/10/2018 11:12

Tks benevolent, that's v significant I m(humble)o :)

[hattie1] 24/10/2018 11:12

Our CEO just posted it on twitter..,

[benevolent] 24/10/2018 11:11

Last bit. Nice :-)


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sorry reel of some real evidence, you do know the main reasons for revisions are mistakes and updates, as I said our quality of platelet size has improved, just for you the delivery date for the new plant has moved forward, unless I also made that up :)

[festario] 24/10/2018 11:11

(his mighty bicep) .... no idea why the word disappeared on me?

[festario] 24/10/2018 11:10

Careful Spid, the mighty SuperG is like a steamroller today, crushing all before him. Whilst I do appreciate that your posts are not digs at VRS as such, and you are merely advocating your own investment alternative of FGR.... you should know that the SuperG possesses the power to destroy your minuscule company with one flex of his mighty bicep.

[scottishfield] 24/10/2018 11:09

Where did you get that hattie1?

[hattie1] 24/10/2018 11:08

.....delivery date for new machinery brought forward....presumably not just to gather dust .....

[spid81] 24/10/2018 11:06

Good morning Superg1,

Can you please explain the following as I find it really hard to understand why you think FGR are BS their investors,

Single layer graphene having a surface area of 2630m2 / g

FGR's Multi Layered Graphene, Has a surface area of 500m2 / g (you consider this graphite)

XG science's Grade H is 15nm in thickness (44 layers)has a surface area of 50-80m2/g - this is very similar to the nanene surface area.

XG Science's Grade M is 6-8nm in thickness (17-23 Layers)has a surface area of 120-150m2 /g

XG Science's Grade C ( the closest product to nanene)is few layer graphene, with a average platelet of 2um, can be ordered with surface areas of 300, 500 & 750 m2/g

Why does Nanene few layer graphene only have a surface area of 45m2 /g Vs XG sciences 300-750m2 ?

Is the 45m2/g another error, or is the error the description - Few Layer Graphene ?


It seems odd to me that all of these other companies you claim produce graphite have a much larger surface area vs nanene.


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