Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[forestfred] 10/10/2018 08:14

Never panicked
Hey if it’s going to happen it’s going to happen .
Just a matter of when we all believe we have something here .

We have got the products and gov support ,leadership and great british uni developments .

You can’t keep this share down as someone said you can hold a cork under water but at some point it will come back up.

The lower it’s held down the higher it will fly up .
Time will tell .
Cheers all in advance feeling positive.
As always dyor
Gla

[1crackupboom] 10/10/2018 08:13

XGS are making tat log. You will realise eventually. So will Ford. They are not even recognised as a real graphene producer in the USA.

[a_game] 10/10/2018 08:12

bbq breakfast, my favourite

[alchemy] 10/10/2018 08:12

So, Nomads. Wander around the desert doing nothing but occasionally visit a water hole that they don't own should keep schtum about and take their fill.?

[rafboy] 10/10/2018 08:11

Thanks Superg1, great explanation and you go get em. It seems those of us who plough the straight and narrow will win in the end though, VRS won’t be stopped. I just hope that some of the good guys haven’t been forced to sell by the shorter’s actions.

[loglorry1] 10/10/2018 08:11

Thanks for the nature article well worth a read

There's no question there are a lot of companies passing graphite off as Graphene. However your argument is that they ALL are except VRS.

That's simply not true. There are companies like XGS that are selling good quality few later Graphene in large size already and VRS is falling behind.

Just for clarity here are you saying VRS has an superior product to XGS and once VRS scaled up they'll take market share? If so can you provide evidence* as it's sure not showing up in sales figures.

*Substantial evidence please not just that NR hires a couple of civil servants for his sales.

[haz101] 10/10/2018 08:10

WWAM I like it Ellis lol :)
Good point BTW, Also holding tight

[runthejoules] 10/10/2018 08:10

In other news, another one of TW's shorts, £ACSO announced a deal with Google this Morning. I was a bit slow and BTFG at 5% up rather than 3% but that's another igh-flying company with global ambitions and good management he's going for. I think after uncovering what's it called - that Israeli IOT company with the dodgy CEO Oozi Katz - he and his gang seem to be over-reaching somewhat.

If I were being uncharitable I'd say no wonder he wants to retire to Greece then leave the EU...

[1crackupboom] 10/10/2018 08:06

It's going up. Panic over.

[squire007] 10/10/2018 08:05

In early 25k for me :-)

[superg1] 10/10/2018 08:04

raf

re

I hope your theory is correct (re the shorters)


It's not a theory.

I'll chuck in a what if.

Pre VRS fund raise PB.

Nudge nudge wink wink (inside info from the Nomad or another). VRS are going to PB at 145p get a short in then bid for stock.

So then the crooks go short via T type trades pre the fund raise. Then when PB pops up just happen to be around on a Friday afternoon to apply for the same amount to get the stock on loan back.

No need to part with cash do it on a T trade type system. A guaranteed profit, easy money as it would all be done and dusted within a week. No money would be needed for your account and all that would happen is the profit would drop into your account which would be the difference between to short price at the time and 145p.

So imagine that went on, what would you guys want done about it.

What of someone tweeted along this lines the day before the fund raise (cynical bear) and what was tweeted became apparent.

What of other posts (which you guys are oblivious too) also demonstrate potential fraud.

To me it potentially looks like that crew on plate for fraud, and fraud by false representation in the shenanigans since.

Some have banking jobs some have other positions. Criminal offences would ruin some of them.

So if it's happened I say let's deal with the scumbags properly, they have got ways with this type of thing for years.

[ellissj] 10/10/2018 08:03

Hoping for a blue day today, bwtfdik ! But logically, the overhang from primary bid shares/top slicers/last parcels of herald/miton can't last forever. So Holding hard here. As Ordinary PI's working with research and intuition, WE are the real risk takers on the wild west Aim market. Supporting neill and co here. Aimo. Dyor. Best ellis

[owenga] 10/10/2018 08:01

Shorters always like to get in early with some sells and try and knock price down before volume picks up.. third day in a row..

[1teepee] 10/10/2018 08:01

Only joking of course. Difficult not to check and see if people stop repeating themselves

[sonsonnyjim] 10/10/2018 08:00

teepee, fair enough, thought it important to emphasise the point. if I post again before Texas visit bane Superg :)

[1teepee] 10/10/2018 07:58

That was a short two weeks:)

[diversification] 10/10/2018 07:57

Based on what we already know. Any deal to be signed will be in the best interests of shareholders.

Those that think the shareprice has priced in a deal are wrong in my opinion. To sign our first of many deals for such a scalable expansion would be incredibly beneficial for all involved imo.

[sonsonnyjim] 10/10/2018 07:55

Superg - nearly certain Peter said there will be a MOU with Jinan

[tini5] 10/10/2018 07:51

superg, second that re China / Nanene / Peter.

They're falling over themselves for graphene, they're falling over themselves for VRS.

As I quit smoking about five years ago, I'm going to try and quit arguing with shorts instead. Will call it Short-tober.

[ellissj] 10/10/2018 07:49

EDIT : from investor day reports, i seem to remember neill says equipt used to produce nanene is rather like a 'threshing machine?'

And further, just checked excellent mike bremner research in header, part one. This quote :

"Mechanical exfoliation of graphene - Mechanical exfoliation is the original method used by Prof Sir Andre Geim and Prof Sir Kostya Novoselov to isolate a single graphene flake. Scotch tape was used to remove layers from bulk graphite, these layers are then transferred to a substrate such as silicon. On removing the tape single layer graphene with large crystal sizes is left on the substrate.

My Opinion: exfoliation produces graphene with the lowest number of defects and highest electron mobility - 3M would be keen if we used Scotch Tap still, however this is the process that the University of Manchester focussed on with their 2D-Tech Graphene production company in partnership with the University of Ulster who patented the process to create high quality few layers of Graphene – this process is also sometimes called grinding."

So the method used by vrs to produce +nanene wasn't included in the 'fake graphene' report, and so +nanene not tested by them. This article has proved useful in highlighting the need for industry standards, and also shows why many companies producing non iso compliant graphene/graphite are resisting their introduction. Aimo. Best ellis

[superg1] 10/10/2018 07:48

Re

"Material has been independently tested in China"

That's the one thing Peter Jay did say, something like.

They have tested Nanene and like it, they told me the graphene over there is no good.

That was on the back of him saying they were flying in from all over to speak to him. He did say what I thought was Jinan is near. It was the only name he was comfortable to emotion as he knew Jinan had been mentioned in an RNS previously.

1stokie

re. The usual suspects on this board should be prosecuted.

yep.

[grabster] 10/10/2018 07:41

I have edited the final paragraph of my post 39132 to include a link to the September 2017 announcement which first opened many peoples eyes to the likelihood that Versarien really does stand head and shoulders above rivals. That paragraph now reads:



It also means that - contrary to what Tim Kempster (loglorry) argues - we are not just basing our confidence on whatever we hear from Neill Ricketts and superg1. Versarien really is something special. That became evident last year when Versarien did so well in the CPI tender, setting the company apart from others:

[freddievas] 10/10/2018 07:36

Definitely Squire, let me know next time. I live down here and commute into Gibraltar every day.’

[luckyorange] 10/10/2018 07:26

I do wonder if our largest shareholder has had a word in the ear of the CEO? ......

Oh, wait a minute ........ 😊🌞