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[zagrosfold] 09/9/2018 20:10

Well has anyone considered that as Neill has said he doesn't do his job for the money that he's just interested in changing the world. What of the danger of giving Nanene to the world at £0.01p per gram. It would create a great beneficial company with lots of knighthoods all round but precious little profits. Too expensive a price and nanene won't be wanted. That's the biggest worry for me atm.

[club sandwich] 09/9/2018 19:56

Graphite - in all my speculative calculations I've been assuming a much *lower* number - certainly for bulk orders/applications. For orders of 100s/1000s of Ts I've been assuming a max of £1/g (perhaps half or third that in the latter case). Of course very specialist applications - such as consumer electronics - where just a little nanene can really enhance quality/price then VRS could charge a premium, probably a substantial one, but I've never thought as high as £50/g.The truth of course is that none of us know, and maybe never will.

[andymoore07] 09/9/2018 19:47

Ha, Chester that's my stomping ground! Do you live here or just visiting?

[bootie64] 09/9/2018 19:44

Axotyl,
just catching up with weekend posts

Regarding charts, I have picked up some knowledge from fingers thread on "FXD" which has been an excellent source for years and he has kindly spent many hours of time helping others with requests for his charts (including me on numerous occasions)and explaining in a simple to understand fashion.


He has put this thread on hold as he has been concentrating on his "FXD1"(personal challenge)thread - another great source of chart actions and interpretations

Another excellent thread is the horneblower "HB" thread - the accuracy of his interpretation on some charts has been "uncanny" over the years :)

[graphite bot] 09/9/2018 19:40

Club it came from my head and was an example. Let’s hope it’s a bigger number.

[club sandwich] 09/9/2018 19:36

Been out all day so apologies if I missed it, but where did the figure of £50/g come from?

[smallfry1] 09/9/2018 19:35

Thanks to all

Some amazing and inspiratioal posts
It's so nice to have a small insight into the life stores of so many of the VRS family.
I feel like I really can make a difference to mine and more importantly my families lives.
I look forward to meeting many of you down the line somewhere.

I will take on board so many of the things that have been said
And I am sure you will make a more serious investor of me one day

Have a good evening everybody.

John

[festario] 09/9/2018 19:10

... GET THAT STOCK MARKET OPEN!!!

[graphite bot] 09/9/2018 19:04

Thanks superg. That’s a lot of phone screens super capisitors battery trays Ect . Explains the hefty price we hope to achieve. 3 million grams capacity very soon. At £50 gram. £150million sounds a lot till you realise how much can be done with very little Graphene.

[superg1] 09/9/2018 18:47

Graphite bot

Single layer graphene would cover 1315 m2.

So then you just divide the average layers into that number.

A point on that, you may find some that advertise graphene by surface area which is 2630 m2 per gram.

The reality way of recording surface area is to add in overlapping. Some give the full surface area which is fantasy as it assumes each flake would be perfectly spaced with no overlapping.

[graphite bot] 09/9/2018 18:27

Does anybody know what area 1 gram of our Nannene would cover

[ellissj] 09/9/2018 18:26

Nice one nemo. Says alot of her work is funded by industry. I presume geic partners. I see on her website linked to her wiki page, photos are on there, showing different 2D materials in liquid form. Unsure if they are related to vrs. But it made me wonder if cambridge graphene could produce other 2D liquid inks other than 'graphinks' via their method ? I imagine they can ? Aimo. Best ellis.



The photos scroll across. Wait for the bottles !

[kemorkid] 09/9/2018 18:25

Superg
If I’m
Not be facetious could I ask you two personal questions........
What age are you snd what is your occupation?
You don’t have to it’s just I have learnt
so much in the past few months from serendipitously reading this B.B. and you
Have made my family a lot of money

Anyway have a lovely Sunday evening

Kevin .

[anotherdrink] 09/9/2018 18:25

Thanks Martin, I like the insight to the internal working's of VRS - when's your next washing up :)

[tini5] 09/9/2018 18:03

Funny how your memory works, I was doing some washing up and idly wondering about 3 tonnes and I suddenly remembered something else that was said after dinner on the golf day.

Neill was talking about how money isn’t his motivation, and this led on to saying how hard everyone at VRS is working (and has worked). In particular he mentioned a chap (called Jim, if I remember correctly), who heads up operations. He has been put under a lot of pressure to deliver on production in recent times and is something of a miracle worker. Neill likened him to Scotty, “she canna take anymore captain”, when asked to ramp up production quantity but somehow always delivered through ingenuity and graft.

This suggests to me a couple of things:

1. There’s other highly capable people we haven’t met yet who are key cogs in the machine and they are working extremely hard and diligently aboard the great ship VRS.

2. The 3 tonne capacity must really be needed and reasonably soon. If operations have managed to deliver on ever increasing demands thus far, despite not being able to on paper at that time, then can only assume they’ve truly exhausted capacity for what is now an expected or most likely known demand.

If anyone else remembers that thread of conversation from the evening and I’ve got it wrong at all then please say so.

Exciting times :-)

Martin

Edit - it’s John who is in charge of production, Jim is the new operations guy. Thanks to “top button ol but” for correcting.

[ashehzi] 09/9/2018 17:58

Reading books list on Aksel Kibar site:

[nemo19] 09/9/2018 17:41

Prof Cinzia Casiraghi Research and projects

The group has a leading activity on the application of Raman spectroscopy to carbon films, nanotubes and graphene. Currently the group is exploring new 2-Dimensional (2D) materials, such as graphene, dichalcogenides, and their combination in superlattices and hetero-structures in order to develop new electronic devices and photovoltaics compatible with low cost and flexible substrates. In particular, the group has a strong research activity on ink-jet printable 2D-crystal inks, which can be used to enable fabrication of flexible and low-cost devices such as sensors, photodetectors, solar cells, etc. Many of the projects in this area are industry-funded.

[nemo19] 09/9/2018 17:35

Grabster, ellis



One of the invited speakers is Prof Cinzia Casiraghi, a scientist who is currently Professor in Nanoscience at the School of Chemistry at the University of Manchester and National Graphene Institute in the UK.

From her Wikipedia page Casiraghi's current research includes work on printing structures based on fragments of graphene for photodetection and strain measurements.

[ellissj] 09/9/2018 17:12

Finally, her wiki page lists Dupont as an institution she is associated with. Hmm? Best ellis

[ellissj] 09/9/2018 17:06

This battery research sounds quite impressive though grabster. Best ellis

[ellissj] 09/9/2018 17:02

Not sure of any links btw. Best ellis

[ellissj] 09/9/2018 16:59

See yr post 2470 grabs, been here before ! Best ellis

[grabster] 09/9/2018 16:46

Professor Clare Grey, University of Cambridge, is among the confirmed speakers at the Graphene Week event in San Sebastian this week (starting Monday morning).



Am I right in recalling that she has some past connection with Versarien? Or Zapgo? Name certainly rings a bell.