Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[club sandwich] 07/7/2018 09:10

I'm all agog. Agog, I tell you!

[grabster] 07/7/2018 09:07

That Andrew Deakin article appears to include paragraphs from several months ago(?), particularly in regard to the step-up from 1g to 1kg daily production for example. In fact the whole article appears to have been put together from an assortment of paragraphs that include comments made much longer ago mixed in with recent input.

[hattie1] 07/7/2018 09:04

Nigel laughton tweeting enjoying dinner with a member if Chinese delegation from Jinan ...

[shavian] 07/7/2018 08:53

Particularly interesting to see the source of the abstract. Beijing International Automotive Exhibition . They certainly seem to know all about 2D, VRS and our thread’s very own erstwhile poster, Dr Andrew D!

[taffy100] 07/7/2018 08:48

Most-bought FTSE 100 and AIM shares in June 2018
by interactive investor | 6th July 2018 10:20

Graphene group Versarien had a busy month. Appointed to the US National Graphene Association's industry council, a deal signed with Arrow GreenTech in India soon after launching its Graphinks brand is potentially significant, and there’s optimism that 2D materials will generate substantial commercial demand. A range of earphones using Versarien’s graphene also paves the way for further monetising the technology.

[ellissj] 07/7/2018 08:48

I assume volsung has traded out of tern now. Come on here for a subtle deramp. Neill says the AR will bring 'comfort' to shareholders, so no I don't expect 'so-so.' Best ellis

[rogerbridge] 07/7/2018 08:20

Great read, thanks CT.

[rogerbridge] 07/7/2018 08:19

Great read, thanks CT.

[superg1] 07/7/2018 07:59

There it is again 1.5 to 2 times on tyres.

[curtain twitcher] 07/7/2018 07:28

Graphene material is expected to reduce the plastic part of the vehicle by 20%
Posted on: 2018-06-09

Abstract: Projections show that by 2020, the global automotive industry may use up to 6 million tons of plastic per year, but the final amount may fluctuate: for example, if a stronger, lighter plastic is made by adding graphene, Instead of other materials with higher mass densities, the final amount of plastic may increase.

We only need to add a very small amount of graphene to some plastics to significantly change the properties and properties of the plastic.

In the promotion of the automotive industry, new technologies are always described as “revolutionary”, but this is often a good wish, not everyone believes.
However, for an emerging material, this description is very objective as long as the word "may" is added before the "revolutionary". This is graphene, which is “probably” a “revolutionary” automotive technology. Looking back, the graphene material was officially separated by researchers at the University of Manchester in the north of England in 2004. It is still only a new material that is only a “pregnancy”, but has begun to steadily advance to mature mass production. In the next decade, graphene materials will likely bring significant changes to the design and manufacturing sectors, including the efficiency of electric vehicles and self-driving cars.

Versarien is an advanced materials engineering group led by Dr. Andrew Deakin as a Chief Technical Engineer. The company is dedicated to extending the application of graphene materials from theoretical research to actual production, allowing this emerging material to fully reduce weight, strengthen materials and optimize batteries. The role: "As long as it is used properly, I think that graphene materials are expected to reduce the plastic part of the vehicle by 20%, which will be revolutionary. In addition, with excellent electrical conductivity, graphene materials are also expected to optimize battery performance, and thus significant Extend battery life."

As an allotrope, graphene is a derivative of graphite (usually used in pencils and dry lubricants). At present, a large amount of research and development work is still required for the large-scale application of graphene materials to mass production of automobiles. Dr. Deakin has been working to promote the use of graphene in vehicle design and manufacturing, but at the same time frankly face the possible challenges: “The application of graphene in some scenarios may be realized in a few years, in other scenarios. Applications may take more than a decade, and the exact time is often difficult to judge, but I am confident in the potential of this material."

Forecasts show that by 2020, the global automotive industry may use up to 6 million tons of plastic per year, but the final amount may fluctuate: for example, if graphene is added to make stronger, lighter plastics and replace them with For other materials with higher density, the final amount of plastic may increase.
In this context, "the impact of the application of graphene in plastic materials on the environment and benefits" is more than good or bad, or it can be difficult to assess if it does more harm than good. However, graphene not only helps plastic materials to reduce weight and thus reduce energy consumption, but also optimizes the crashworthiness of materials: “The challenge at this stage is to apply graphene to more different types of plastics as much as possible, and thus better Understand the real optimization that this material can bring. Currently, we are just beginning to conduct large-scale testing of graphene in different materials and components."

Reinforced plastic
Dr. Deakin and his team are working to increase the strength of plastics by more than 30% to achieve the same amount of reduction but also achieve the same or higher strength. However, there are currently 13 types of plastics commonly used in vehicle manufacturing, and all types of plastics must undergo testing procedures.
Dr. Deakin said, “We have to determine how the graphene is added to the plastic, and the proportion of specific blends, such as 1% to 5%. Then we have to improve all the necessary processes and technologies; finally, we will optimize the comprehensive test, and then Promote small-scale production to industrial scale."
Currently, Dr. Deakin has begun to use graphene materials to optimize the performance of tires, composite body panels, CFRP materials and batteries. “In the initial stage, we have to find the most meaningful application scenarios, and because of this, we are looking for help from a large number of industry experts. For example, we can use graphene to extend tire life to the current level. 1.5x, or even 2x, while reducing the need for plastic particles in the manufacturing process, which is very meaningful for protecting the environment. A recent report pointed out that in the plastic waste that is less than 1 mm in diameter that is eventually dumped into the ocean, More than 28% are from tires."
Graphene also helps to reduce the weight and size of the battery, thereby effectively extending the cruising range of the electric vehicle and has the potential to increase the charging speed of the battery.
In addition, graphene can also improve the impact strength of plastic sheets or bumpers, and similar performance gains can be obtained when applied to vehicle chassis. Of course, in order to achieve the desired effect, it is also necessary to continuously optimize the mixing ratio of graphene. On the other hand, graphene is generally not used for the reinforcement of aluminum or steel, but "the direct use of graphene-reinforced plastics to replace these metals" is also an alternative idea. Dr. Deakin explained: “If graphene-reinforced plastics are used, the torsional stiffness of the parts will remain the same, even increase, and the impact strength will increase. Therefore, it is expected that more and more scenes will begin to use quality in the future. Lighter plastic, CFPR and GRP materials."
Versarien acquired 2D Experts in 2014, when the latter produced only 1 gram of graphene per day. Today, with the introduction of new equipment, the company expects to increase its single-day graphene production to 1 kg later this year ( 2.2 lbs). In this regard, Dr. Deakin said this is equivalent to a 1000-fold increase in production factors. In simple calculations, if the average daily production per unit can be increased to 10 kg (22 lbs), 100 units can increase the company's single-day production to 1 ton. Dr. Deakin added, “In addition, when it comes to significantly optimizing the performance of plastics, we have to control the amount of graphene added to the plastic (possibly only 1% or less), which is very important.”

Dr. Deakin's details on the graphene production equipment and how it works are just a few words, indicating that plastics manufacturers can easily install such equipment in existing production plants.

In Dr. Deakin's definition, "real" graphene contains only a single layer of single-layer carbon atoms. However, most of the scales of Versarien graphene materials are no more than 5 layers, 90% of the scales are no more than 10 layers, and the average lateral dimension is only 2 microns.
In addition, recyclability is an important issue that must be considered before any new material can be officially applied. Dr. Deakin believes that the advent of graphene will rejuvenate old plastics (for example, when plastics degrade due to UV radiation), that is, retain their original properties or properties and re-enter the supply chain.

However, we still have to face a long-standing problem: what is the cost-effectiveness of “reducing the plastic consumption of vehicles by adding graphene”? Dr. Deakin said: "We expect that by using our technology, this graphene solution will be truly cost effective in the next few years, which will take about five years."

So, can this graphene with only one layer of single atom thickness be a true "revolutionary" material? This will take time to verify.

[luckyorange] 07/7/2018 07:15

I see what you did there superg :)

[lovat scout] 07/7/2018 07:13

Mike Brenner has just posted this on Twitter - if you don’t want to read it all, I suggest you read page 3 and the first para of page 4 as it explains well the share price valuation methods used by successful investors in high growth, innovative and disruptor companies.

When someone bleats about the VRS P/E ratio at the forthcoming results, just redirect them here!

[superg1] 07/7/2018 07:09

Brexit sorted, England winning the world cup, it's all getting a bit too far-fetched on here.

[volsung] 07/7/2018 07:00

But Brexit is not sorted. England are v unlikely to win the World Cup and the VRS results will probably be so-so. Still life is good and we carry on

[amt] 07/7/2018 06:39

With Brexit sorted. England heading towards winning the World Cup and VRS about to release what should be stunning results what's not to like.

[grabster] 07/7/2018 06:20

clickable link for 1retirement's post 20112, relating to Versarien partner Zap&go:

[fhasson] 07/7/2018 00:41

In fact Kevlar and Teflon are both made by DuPont an opportunity then for DowDupont and Elon Musk with Neilll

[fhasson] 07/7/2018 00:32

Peddantic with an extra d

[sandbag] 07/7/2018 00:28

fhasson,

It's Neill with a double ll.

[fhasson] 07/7/2018 00:20

I see Elon Musk is getting involved in trying to rescue the 12 Thai boys and their coach. Talking about using a Kevlar pod or tube with Teflon coating for xtra strength through the hazardous flooded tunnels. When is it time for Neil to get involved? It's beat the clock time and maybe an opportunity for an Elon And Neil brainstorm collaboration?

[dreamtwister] 06/7/2018 22:41

another irritating gnat "slap"......history.... goodnight....rip