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[32campomar] 16/9/2020 08:11

Btw could anyone have watched their live presentation on graphene Mcfly79? I would have found that really interesting but thanks for the update

[weyweyumfozo] 16/9/2020 08:10

Here you go, ask them yourself:



You won't know whether it's pointless or not unless you ask them.

[superg1] 16/9/2020 08:08

And just for the record

I continue to use terms and words keeping the other parts out of full view.

So if the Nomad or company is aware of the exchanges here. Then of course I know who the Day4 tech is with and who is trying to develop it further.

It's quite simple.

Everything so far in information from the company leads me to believe the technology is based on IP owned by someone else, IP developed by Day4

Yes Greenpower got a Day4 tech license . Yes I have a brochure showing Greenflex using Day4 tech, bluenergy get a mention as technical partner too.

Yes it's a low temp solder production technique, yes it's better than older technology re shading issues and total surface area availability.

That's due to the wires, the interconnections, which allows the moving of busbars/terminals from the panel surface area to the side.

[32campomar] 16/9/2020 08:07

Yes sounds like very promising developments at Paragraf, can't wait for the update on that!

[superg1] 16/9/2020 08:01

Weywey

You don't get it do you. I'm trying to help.

If the company are using Day4 technology that is no their IP then imo that would potentially mean their admission document was highly misleading.

It's clear from posts that some invested as they thought this was unique and exclusive to Greenflex/Verditek.

So what is the point of asking. The answer will either be Yes it's Day4 or no.

So what would an RNS saying yes sorry folks it's Day4 tech not ours, if you thought it was unwise and exclusive to us apologies.

They are not going to release an RNS like that unless they are absolutely forced to are they.

What they can do is say NO it's not Day4, although everything we have said looks like Day4 and commentary since but it's not.

So then competitors would check the product to see if it's tech they are using, it's very easy to do.


So they can't say yes Day4 to me as that is inside info, but they can say no, which I'd then check out to make sure it's not them trying to hide that they are using the IP but have no permission.

Hence it's pointless.


I have gone that route with many companies before, AIM, TSX, ASX so far every suspicious part I have dug out on various companies had been correct.

I would love Verditek to confirm what it is one way or another.

As currently it's one to completely imo until they confirm either way.

Simple research throwing up some serious doubt.

The company and Nomad won't want to confirm it's Day4 technology inside. That would identify incompetence by the Nomad and/or deliberate misinformation.

[weyweyumfozo] 16/9/2020 07:53

"Come on Verditek confirm it's Day4 OR that confirm absolutely that it's something else."

Here you go, ask them yourself:

[superg1] 16/9/2020 07:50

So apparently at least one says he doesn't give a damn re the findings.... most odd considering you thought Verditek had something unique and exclusive here.

It's being sold by two at least, one with great link up in the US, I have more to check up on.

Being launched in a big way by another and wait for it.....

Nah I won't tell you yet, if you can't be bothered go through the links provided and spot it, more fool you.

It may be of course that Greenflex/Verditek are not using the Day4 tech in their panels. You know the low solder temp one the interconnecting tech which they do talk about, Day4 tech that gets a brief mention in the admission document it rolls into the license then into Greenflex.

Come on Verditek confirm it's Day4 OR that confirm absolutely that it's something else.

If it is Day4 tech then it's being developed and sold by various companies. Some really like the look of the IP, more on that another time.

[weyweyumfozo] 16/9/2020 07:42

superglue,

"It's a shame Verditek have not yet announced whether they are still using Day4 technology,which they appear to be"..
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FFS,

instead of repeating the same thing over and over again, ask the Company to answer your question.

As usual, you only pay attention to the things that suit your negative agenda. See if you can buy a Freevolt PV Graf panel. And if or when you can buy one I doubt if it will be a single sheet of graphene like Paragraf, and therefore I doubt if it will be as good.

[superg1] 16/9/2020 07:33

There is another major one but I'm waiting for you guys to find that one

No sign of that yet when searching posts.

Verditek will know ask them.

[superg1] 16/9/2020 07:30

WEYWEY

Thanks

You were the only one that bothered to look up Freevolt.

I can confirm their solar panels are based on the same IP as Greenflex.

It's a shame Verditek have not yet announced whether they are still using Day4 technology, which they appear to be and their position over the license they would need to use that tech. They did get one but is it still valid etc.

They have not stated so anywhere, they just left it for investors to assume it's their IP.

So Solbian confirmed as using that IP and now Freevolt.

Interestingly Freevolt go on about PV Graph technology, graphene in the panels but I'm sceptical about that as many companies claim graphene content but it's not.

Frrevolt are with SA2 modular who call the technology PV Graf

SA@ Modualr are about building self sufficient homes on energy (Greenluxehomes)

They say they have a Mega factory in the US




I'll look through PV Graph and PV Graf perhaps a typo on one of the sites but it's definitely Freevolt with SA2 modular

And definitely Day4 technology being used by Freevolt

[mcfly79] 16/9/2020 07:22

I invested in VDTK because I think the new CEO can create a very profitable business with the current panels. I researched graphene a few years ago. It's difficult to produce high quality graphene, with a repeatable process, at a reasonable price. At the time CVD was only being produced in small areas at very high prices. I researched what I could on the Paragraf joint development program but they were not releasing much information. Therefore I have been treating the graphene development as a free option and not assigning much value to it. However, more details are now coming out of Paragraf. Yesterday I watched their live presentation about their Graphene Hall-Effect Sensor. They use a modified CVD method and grow the graphene directly on the semiconductor (in the case of the Hall-Effect Sensor the semiconductor is Sapphire, but it also works with silicon). The Hall-Effect Sensor is a working commercial product that will be launched later this year. They stated that they can now produce graphene up to an area of 8 inches in diameter and that their process uses standard techniques and is scalable. Someone specifically asked how long it takes to make an 8 inch area. The answer was that it's 'not a huge amount of time' and that the growth process was their core IP. 8 inches diameter would pretty much cover the size of a standard solar cell (6 inch square with the corners cut off). Sounds like promising developments and I'm trying to find out more. Some details in these two articles from Paragraf: hTTps://www.paragraf.com/article/graphene-then-now-and-in-the-future/hTTps://www.paragraf.com/article/five-advantages-of-graphene-based-hall-effect-sensors/ Interesting paragraph from the first article: 'The production of the GHS is now underway at Paragraf's manufacturing site, with the Magnetics Lab at CERN as one of the early collaborators. Because the basic equipment and base wafers are sourced directly from the semiconductor manufacturing supply chain, Paragraf will face no challenges in scaling up production in the future. Longer term, the option to partner with larger semiconductor device manufacturers is also viable.'

[supernumerary] 15/9/2020 15:54

scrutable - I really have no view on whether the gerbil's corrupt or not, as I have no independently verifiable information on the subject, and not the slightest desire to go looking for it. I do know that he's got mental health issues - that's clearly apparent from his posting history - but that's his problem not mine.

Luckily, for all the hours he puts into typing his semi-literate dribble, I need only a couple of minutes to leaf through the whole lot and consign it to the rubbish bin. Pointless on his part, but it does keep him out of harm's way.

[1retirement] 15/9/2020 15:52

SG please leave this board alone. The share price is drowning over on VRS and we need your input there to help halt the slide. Support the company you ARE invested in rather than bashing the one you aren't invested in.

[rogerramjett] 15/9/2020 15:12

Haven't heard from superg1 since the price went up 9%. Its lovely.

Hope his and the rest of TW's pathetic leaches short positions burn.

[mike290] 15/9/2020 14:52

bigjohnsmam,

For me, you're on filter too.

Bye.

[1teepee] 15/9/2020 14:19

But they are completely unique!!!!

[volsung] 15/9/2020 14:15

Superg has researched IOF and VRS for many many years and tbh they have done v little.

[weyweyumfozo] 15/9/2020 14:10

From someone who is on first name terms with TW.

[scantrader] 15/9/2020 13:57

Just looked up the shareholder list on the company website - a striking lack of institutional support. Still, what do fund managers know about share valuations?

[enter] 15/9/2020 13:40

"In the absence of news" is a pretty big assumption though. Nobody knows when an RNS with details of new orders might arrive.

[scrutable] 15/9/2020 13:36

the Fibonacci whiplash of the retracement from bottom at 10.7p has begun, as predicted. Buys outnumber Sells by 4:1 today. Shares are back up by 9.6% as I write. Some shorters will close and add momentum, but the Fibonacci effect is a damped oscillation and in the absence of news I would expect to peter out at 40% of the 3,3p bounce to 14p currently in progress, so I guess that there is, at 12p, still a little more (1p?) to come before the next small downturn (1.3p?). DYOR




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[scrutable] 15/9/2020 12:43

Supenumary

I do not believe that superg is corrupt but I am worried by his descent into obsessive madness over the years since IOF was all the rage.. I wonder if he lives on his own. I have seen this happen before. He is wrecking a decent board........

Even if VDTK wins the lion's share of markets in dispersed locations, fragile supported structures, and/or on moving objects. there's room for many more than two contenders.

VDTK may have missed first mover advantage but it's sure overtaking them all.
The end result will be huge, as governments at last begin to respond to looming Apocalypse: Utter Catastrophe through Climate Change, and before we are all either roasted, or drowned, or killing each other for dwindling food supplies.

I hope that most people last night watched arguably the best programme the BBC has ever put out: David Attenborough's led squad of global scientist's demonstrating phases already passed towards the extinction of human life.

[philparkes] 15/9/2020 12:31

Just look at his posting over the years, thousands and thousands of inane, rambling posts on ADVFN alone.
This bent, obsessive ex-copper obviously has no life at all.

And he's been wrong on virtually everything!!

[mandatory] 15/9/2020 12:25

It’s such a shame that a filtered user with no shares but plenty of verbal diarrhoea can still take up a lot of the traffic on a hitherto decent BB.

Seems to think he’s something of an AIM detective (not the sheriff of AIM that is the lovely TW)- but he has become more like a mad angry bloke shouting at imaginary strangers on the street.

That’s why he’s filtered.