Verditek Share Discussion Threads

[enter] 15/9/2020 10:44

How's VRS doing superg? The graph doesn't look too good over the past year. Is that one of your hot tips?

[superg1] 15/9/2020 10:43

Scrutable

You seem to love this idea.

Would you like to invest in the company that own the IP I talk about, if you prove to be right they are going to do very well.

Lightweight solar panels (some new technology added too), they are claiming efficiencies of over 24% which is impressive.

[superg1] 15/9/2020 10:36

Just helping

It seems clear to me from those posts you invested thinking it was unique. IP owned by Greenflex/verditek and thus to you as the only lightweight solution out there then it offers and incredible multiplier on the share price

But it's not is it.

How did you come to that conclusion.

Surely from reading what Verditek put out in news. It certainly reads like that to me.

I am simply going by information they have released. Greenflex took a license from Day4. Greenflex mention they are using Day4 in the brochure

DAy4 get the mention in the Admission document the trail of information is there, but the admission document gives the clear impression that the IP is owned by Greenflex and now Verditek.

It also states the Verditek guys were aware of Greenflex pre IPO so they would know at the time of preparing that document what the circumstances were.


The Nomad would have been aware too. A few quick checks would have shown the Day4 tech is not owned by Greenflex, it only takes minutes to spot that.

[supernumerary] 15/9/2020 10:30

But I suppose you have to look on the bright side - if he's here posting endless gibberish, at least he's not out in the community, where he might do real harm.

[supernumerary] 15/9/2020 10:27

Jeez! I thought it was a grudge against me and teepee, because we both think he's an idiot and have made no secret of it.

Turns out it's a grudge against poor old Scrutable. I think Scrute's a bit prone to over-exaggeration myself, but can't imagine what he might have done to cause such an outpouring of bile.

Must have started to express doubts about Ricketts competence, or something :¬)

Meanwhile I see VRS is slowly sinking below the waves, unlike one of the other targets of the gerbil's nastiness, Haydale, which looks as though it's thriving. Amazing what a new management can do, but I think that idea's a bit beyond his pay grade...

[superg1] 15/9/2020 10:26

Scrutable

Following posts by you

Some content from them

The attractions of an investment in VDTK are so good as to raise the question: Are they too good to be true, but the only risk I can detect are the usual one's covered by insurance.

I don't see how they can prevent copying by, at least the Asians, who have built such large silicon wafer factoriesin the last 20 years. How much protection can patents give for lightweighting - if any?


The patent is about the new method which allows low temp construction and defeats shade issues like leaves or snow etc which can completely disrupt old tech.

The interconnections allow other parts of the panel to continue producing power.

The shade part is not under IP, there is no need as it's protected by the original IP, one can't follow without the other, in that method.

[32campomar] 15/9/2020 10:21

Yes look what happened after the pullback from 14p to 10p, SAF $2.2 million contract win sent it soaring to 18p. Just before that was announced there was a lot of moaning and dispondancy on here. Don't forget the darkest hour is just before dawn...

[superg1] 15/9/2020 10:19

In the 2nd part of the post you warned about telling on the graphene side of it.

Correct keep that up, ignore it imo I have done my digging there too.

But that is not for sharing here.

Paragraf type tech and progress is well off hence it's not the topic, the topic is Greenflex/verditek and the IP.

BTW graphene flakes you talk of are in solar panels on a trial in Crete on a solar farm. That type of tech will be years off, we agree there.

[enter] 15/9/2020 10:16

SP has retraced from previous highs due to a gap in news. Confirmation of orders and this goes straight back up.

[superg1] 15/9/2020 10:12

A unique much needed product

No it isn't is it.

How did you from that opinion?

Reading news, talking to the company?

[superg1] 15/9/2020 10:11

Scrutable

This appears ot be your first post this year on VDTK

the first part says it all

This is a wonderfully positioned company with a unique, much needed product. The share price is more bound to rocket in anticipation of the giant market to be won, than any I have previously come across. I suppose there is still an execution risk but the intention to license part of future production will mitigate this with the risk reducing as the number of licenses increase.

[superg1] 15/9/2020 10:05

Scrutable

Openly stick to the reason you first invested, your first beliefs when pressing that buy button.

You know damn well how phone call and that can later prove to be untrue.

Verditek may prove to be clean as a whistle, it may not. If the latter, the reason for buying can be a crucial point in law.

So it would be nice for Verditek to openly clarify their position, what tech are they using. If it is that of Day4, do they still have the permissions in place and so on. Simply quote the license number and show it.

[superg1] 15/9/2020 09:59

Scrutable

You know damn well you pile into an idea, pump it to everyone and so so via high gearing.

You were in the Guardian in news remember, you have been burned many times. You bet big you gear big, you got prior warning.

So to make sense of what you said are you saying there is nothing unique re the IP.

You clearly stated you though it's unique and thus game changer which meant you piled in geared excitedly pouching it to your circle and on ADVFN.

So in talking to Verditek have they now told you the IP within the panel is not theirs and is used by others.

Have they told you who owns the IP and had made some great progress on efficiency and new panels.

Or have they said we dumped the Day4 tech, but then the description stills fits Day4 tech?

[superg1] 15/9/2020 09:51

Jeez

How many times did I see that on

Avanti, PRG, Tyratech etc etc.

dubois15 Sep '20 - 09:45 - 2311 of 2313

I hope so.
Spoke to RR and have confidence that all is very well.


Vince the PI at PRG all over again.

Get them to put it in writing to you.

So had he confirmed they have a license, that it's not day4 technology when currently it seems it is?

[dubois] 15/9/2020 09:50

I still have him filtered so can't see his reply. The fact he is still here makes me think he hasn't contacted the company yet.Superg1, contact the company and give our eyes a rest.Do let us all know what they say

[superg1] 15/9/2020 09:48

Dubois

And what would be the point in that.


Why would they say, Fair cop guv bang to rights.

Or would they say, yeah fair point actually we do have the license which is still active and therefore can produce the panels for IP that belongs to someone else.

For me to say that would be inside information, so why ask.

I have done that with other companies.

EG Tyratech

So I tried to raise things they hadn't told the market.

I dropped a bit in to the Nomad and company and sure enough they came back with an excuse/lie. Which was quickly identified as a lie in the 2nd question. "We'll get the chairman to call you back with answers" (the cheque didn't arrive in the post)

What they needed to answer was the fact the big news of stock on shelves was being taken off shelves due to a trademark challenge, that along with finding the result document on tests with Kraft which is a rather large name. No news that the trial failed to reach its end point.

Funnily enough the company didn't want to talk anymore, or the Nomad when they were caught lying.

Tyratech is no more.

I am not saying Verditek is going bust.

I am saying the information they have put out clearly suggest it's the IP created by Day4 and if correct investors have made decisions thinking it's their IP and unique.

Scrutable stated that in his post, he thought it was unique he thought the IP was that of Greenflex and Verditek.

If they are using Day4 tech and have license to do so, all good.

But then they put out a highly misleading admission doc, which is not so good and then that tech is in panels being sold by multiple parties.

The what about the claims lowest watt per kg on the market yet not one fact or number released by them to check if they are telling the truth, just that claim.

Others using that tech quote the efficiency, the weight, and the wattage.

[32campomar] 15/9/2020 09:46

Yes all is going very well. A very exciting time ahead.

[dubois] 15/9/2020 09:45

I hope so.Spoke to RR and have confidence that all is very well.

[scrutable] 15/9/2020 09:44

superg

I have still omitted to sum up before bowing out.

You make much of ....
"Verditek are apparently nothing more that a reseller of Day4 technology like Solbian"-.....
True, but you have been told that that is totally irrelevant. You have taken no notice at all of the facts. After lack of clarity and early misunderstandings, noone is still claiming unique IP for the panels.

You clearly don't understand anything about global marketing as you have never worked in that field. Move on, before you make a complete fool of yourself - though it may be too late for that. I am sorry to spell out that you are advertising your own ignorance.

1) Uniqueness of product is the easiest route to market domination but few can take it.

2) Focus of sales resources on particular territories or activities is one such strategy, on the basis of expertise in, and sensitivity to, the customers' speciality eg marine or oil drilling, marine etc.

3) Clever selection of entrenched distributors is another.- as they have done in Australia.

4) Build up of local after sales support is yet another- as is the quality of sales training..

5)Reduction of unit production costs by scaling up and/or outsourcing is the most powerful - if you can execute this - and VDTK can already.

They were originally spending their efforts on small stuff - like the tops of bus shelters until they realised that this could never scale up. When they switched to diesel oil displacement in mining ventures they opened up a huge new sales universe that solbian nd the others would never have imagined nor could ever reach.

VDTK will succeeed entirely from its demonstrated strategic and marketing skills. For example it completely outperforms Solbian on costsand volume. VDTK is scaling up already to take the lead.

[32campomar] 15/9/2020 09:38

Hugely oversold Dubois, you may have timed it to perfection

[dubois] 15/9/2020 09:30

I cant see his posts anymore but I see he is still here.
Superg1, what did the company say when you contacted them?

[superg1] 15/9/2020 09:28

What Dubois news that the patent isn't theirs, it would be good to know if they still have a license or if it isn't the Day4 tech, what the protection is.

For now it 100% looks like Day4 tech as that's what Greenflex were saying they were using.

It would be easy to verify simply by checking one of their solar modules

I'll give you a big clue.

Check the actual patent that Greenflex got a license for, from Day4 energy

See where it leads you. Hey I'll even provide the link

[dubois] 15/9/2020 09:13

Tried 15k but they came out at 11.3, so did 2 at 11.14 and one at 11.15