Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
TP Group LSE:TPG London Ordinary Share GB0030591514 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.15p +2.54% 6.05p 5.80p 6.30p 6.05p 5.90p 5.90p 822,999 15:03:10
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Industrial Engineering 29.5 -0.6 -0.1 - 45.89

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
20/4/2018
19:48
I don't believe anyone buying this stock in recent years expected to make a killing overnight. It is a turnaround story with some very encouraging signs and it continues imho to be a longer term value play as I have consistently stated IF they deliver the strategy. I certainly don't consider my investment as dead money...in fact PA and I both bought recently at what we considered to be a compelling price (mine at 5.25p) so we have benefited slightly from a small share price uplift. The debate is healthy and we have long term holders posting on the BB whilst we may differ at times in our investment views everyone is here to see the company do well and as a result we hopefully will all profit. The investment adage is always better to travel than arrival and the TPG journey is still evolving. GLA
catch007
20/4/2018
15:44
I can only buy 1k on Halifax at 6.188p, yes that's 1000, but can sell 200k at 6.01p I think someone needs some stock.
paulgo
20/4/2018
11:59
As I said, I'm perfectly happy with the company's performance being judged on adjusted EBITDA. I know that not everyone agrees and "everyone is entitled to an opinion"but the £2.6m was earned and did enter TPG accounts the fact that it did not find its way to the bottom line doesn't reduce the amount earned. I was speaking to a friend who was a CFO of a very large company and I made other enquires and it seems that the rules have been changed recently and much more must go through the P/L account that in the past. Previously much more of the expenditure was allowable as a capital expense. TPG has lots of cash and people do expect them to spend it but it is still there and some expenditure had to go through the P/L account. My friend was baffled by the £370k option sum and I understand this was also brought up at the institutional presentation. This looks like very new legislation that obviously impacted on the bottom line. In short, the company isn't burning cash and is spending the generated income (£2.6m) in the business. My only problem now is the projections for the MS (services) unit and I've sent a number of questions to TPG so we will see what happens. In short the broker is predicting a small profit this year and well over a million next year and I don't see why there should be a delay if acquired companies are supposed to hit the ground running....watch this space !!!
pavey ark
20/4/2018
09:31
MIFID ll has got a lot to answer for.
tiltonboy
20/4/2018
08:53
LL , careful reading of my post will show that I was suggesting that there may be "arrangements" out with the guidelines set down. Not being dogmatic about this just suggesting that a market maker COULD gather shares for an order that hasn't been formally made. Thanks for the detailed post and nice to see an opening buy of 100k. Just a late thought: the share trades in question yesterday amounts to less than 0.8% of the total shares in issue.I would suggest that regulation on this scale would certainly restrict the market. Not a big deal though and again thanks for the detailed post.
pavey ark
20/4/2018
08:08
PA "It could be that the MMs can source stock from somewhere (a willing seller)but they could have built up shares..........." I think you will find that MM's employ systems to do the exact opposite. They absolutely dread holding any shares overnight when a market closes. They have no control of what happens when the market closes and before it re-opens and therefore don't take the risk. It would put them out of business quickly. When the new rules came in recently they were regulated to force any companies doing so into declaring their holdings even if they are transient i.e. mid order execution whereby they buy just before market closes and still hold immediately the market opens for the next session. In the abscence of such a notification its safe to assume they don't hold a notifiable amount and their source of shares is a willing seller or sufficient existing orders on their book to match them.
larry laffer
19/4/2018
17:16
Hopefully they can generate some buying interest.
tiltonboy
19/4/2018
16:48
It could be that the MMs can source stock from somewhere (a willing seller)but they could have built up shares knowing that the institutions would (could ?) only buy after the results. A lot goes on with a nod and a wink and we are left outside. Good to see some decent volume though and it may continue as I think management are in the city for the rest of the week.
pavey ark
19/4/2018
14:58
...and it looks like they are getting stock from a willing seller.
tiltonboy
19/4/2018
14:50
Kiwihope, I too have been investing for some time certainly like to think I know what I'm doing. Three years ago I got thing very wrong though and lost a fair amount on a heavily indebted oil company and being smart enough I took stock and made a rule that I would only invest in companies with cash. I have one company that has a small amount of debt but I expect that debt has gone by now. I did look down your posts on other companies expecting to find your catchall "this price could fall 30% if something goes wrong, but I'm not saying what" It seems that only TPG is on your warning,danger list. Two years ago I spelt out the then merits of TPG but your theme then as now was "Oh I don't know things could go wrong" Even with todays depressed price you could have easily have doubled your money and had the security that the company that was giving you this excellent return was cash rich and winning orders. I don't suppose you have worked out that if your disaster scenario hits TPG it would also hit other companies and present an opportunity for TPG. Finally I have invested fairly heavily in TPG and it is my largest investment BUT my eyes are open and even now I am pursuing an issue I've spotted. When I get clarification I will reassess and react accordingly. There is much to like with TPG and from what I see from your other posts it is the one that should give you the least worry. For others: The management team are in the City today, doing the round of the institutional investors so the jump in trade volume will be coming from them.
pavey ark
19/4/2018
12:39
. . Trading rising 14:36:29 5.89 GBX 10,190 £599.99 14:03:34 6.00 GBX 35,000 £2,098.60 12:47:49 5.95 GBX 400,000 £23,800.00 # 12:26:33 5.90 GBX 2,000,000 £118,000.00 # 12:25:25 5.90 GBX 500,000 £29,500.00 # 12:25:18 5.90 GBX 1,500,000 £88,500.00 # 11:50:17 5.90 GBX 2,500,000 £147,500.00 # 11:10:59 5.85 GBX 400,000 £23,400.00 # 10:06:14 5.89 GBX 18,500 £1,089.28 09:37:28 5.81 GBX 300,000 £17,436.00 # 09:26:53 5.82 GBX 250,000 £14,555.00 # 09:23:46 5.82 GBX 105,850 £6,162.59 09:17:36 5.82 GBX 58,150 £3,385.49 08:30:43 5.89 GBX 33,291 £1,960.17 # Trade reported as: Large in Scale, Deferral . .
bullster
19/4/2018
12:34
1150hrs 2.5M trade @ 5.9p.
azalea
19/4/2018
09:36
Oh Pavey, what has happened to you? Did I really say... "...but people don't usually go on a public forum and say "look out folks if something really drastic happens (and I'm not saying what) this share price could fall 30%." I am a holder of TPG shares. On balance I think the company will do well. I want it to do well. I hope there is no setback operationally. We are on the same side (heaven help us if I was negative about the company and a seller!!). For the very last time, in response to an earlier post I was simply trying to explain what I thought had to happen for the share price to increase and stay there (i.e. not a short-term spike up). In addition I pointed out that I think the present share price is supported largely by the company's future potential. It doesn't pay a dividend. It doesn't make after-tax profits. It's cash is less than half the valuation. This is fine as long as the story stays good. I have been investing in shares for 20 years and I have seen many cases when similar companies do hit a problem and the share price drops more than might be expected. That is all I was saying. You admit this can happen to any company (so I assume you include TPG as one of "any companies"). Pavey my friend, you must be very careful you do not fall in love with this company. You are showing some worrying signs. Please keep your eyes open and at least consider the possibility that something might go wrong.
kiwihope
19/4/2018
00:04
Enjoyable, educated thread on the whole ( if you 4get the trolls ) by balanced peeps who all have valid pointS of view. I viewed the results favourably. The market didm't. I have nothing aginst the company & would have mildly re-rated the stock on the back of that. The market didn't. Kiwi has TWO very valid pointS. As FXPO has been badly beaten uP for no real reason ( down c. a 1/3rd in a month ) & with steel prices recovering fast, I sold the 2nd 1/3rd of my TPG & bought FXPO. The market is not always right, can be very wrong like 2007/2008, but investments are a game where you have to outsmart the errors. The more you want to make money, the harder you have to play it that way. IMO the trend on TPG is wrong but holding the shares is dead money... I'll keep watching & can re-invest as & when the trend rights itself, but for now I see better trends elsewhere ( DTY, FXPO, GRG & RTN for eg.). LET THE TREND BE YOUR FRIEND! P.S. PTY is also OUT of my PF today, as the market has not re-rated the shares on the back of good results. To make things worse, founder Phil Swinstead is liquidating his 11% bit by bit, which puts a lid on share price movements. Bought DTY @ 1090p, which could get back to 1900p in six months.
napoleon 14th
18/4/2018
21:57
If house broker report then it aint worth jack. Its a piece of PR
swiss paul
18/4/2018
21:33
Pavey Ark, Thank you very much for explaining everything in detail.My personal feeling is that the share price will move once the money raised is used to make a reasonable purchase.
fernandesb
18/4/2018
18:33
To both of you,and this is my last comment on this, I agreed with a large part of his post but I am also entitled to my opinion and it is that it's nonsense to single out a company as vulnerable to a 30% fall in share price when it has the order book, cash and repeat revenue that TPG has. Yes a fall from this point could happen but as I pointed out it could happen to any company in the world but people don't usually go on a public forum and say "look out folks if something really drastic happens (and I'm not saying what)this share price could fall 30%." That is what was said here and if you think that is reasonable then we must differ on what we consider reasoned and balanced analysis of a company's prospects. For other investors I've a copy of the current broker's report and will give it full attention this evening but at first glance they consider the TPG extremely undervalue and IC have a very measured, intelligent and thoughtful take on the results and the have reiterated their "BUY" recommendation. Hey-Ho who to believe ??!!
pavey ark
18/4/2018
18:06
Shocking set of results.........
larry laffer
18/4/2018
17:29
PA I am glad you also read the results perhaps it may help you with a more reasoned and balanced commentary towards other posters views. As tiltonboy states above everyone has an opinion and you need to accept they may differ from your own. I felt Kiwi's comments were spot on and gave a sensible outlook on a pretty lacklustre final outcome. My focus as a serious investor is to see if the company executes well in the run up to the half year not full year at this juncture.
catch007
18/4/2018
16:33
PA, You are just being silly now. Everybody has a right to a view, and there are a host of things that can derail what appears to be a good story; the market is currently littered with such events. On top of that you have illogical markets to contend with.
tiltonboy
18/4/2018
16:07
Kiwihope, as I said I had no problem with your figures nor the logical point that results have to improve to push the share price up. What I do take issue with is the statement that there is a danger of a fall of 20-30% if there is a slip up, whatever that means. You may be a shareholder but I do remember,two years ago, when I pointed out that the Maritime unit was worth £30m and as our resident troll screamed you said I was being over optimistic and it was perhaps worth £15m (going on memory here so apologies if I'm off the mark.) The share price at this time was c. 2.6p valuing the company at c. £11m with £7m cash and the afore mention maritime unit. I certainly do remember you had the same outlook then as today but with Maritime earning £5.6m this year alone I suppose I was way out,but the other way. £23m cash,massive order book and a secure and recurring earnings stream is to be ignored ? As a previous poster pointed out there is no immediate catalyst for a major share price move especially if the market is prepared to ignore what has happened in this company over the last year. I'm afraid your perfectly reasonable post was spoiled by a really silly comment about the current,low share price being vulnerable to some unspecified threat and my point is that every share price is vulnerable but many would crash before TPG. Edit: Your absolutely spot on the money, the whole company is hanging by a thread everyone sell NOW !! I've just had a flash back to the days of the troll and other posters and me batting away silly comments and pointing out the cash pile and value of Maritime and I certainly don't want to go back to that. Who knows the price may fall to 4p with cash of 3p and maritime worth £50m(6.5p) .....as I said, I've been there before!!!
pavey ark
18/4/2018
15:51
Immensely. An incredible country. Primarily there for the cricket, but a month wasn't enough. Sorry for OT.
tiltonboy
18/4/2018
15:14
Tilton, I hope you enjoyed it...
kiwihope
18/4/2018
14:21
kiwi, I thought your post was well reasoned, and I agree that I see no immediate catalyst for a major share price move. Of course, acquisition news may change that. Just come back from a month in Kiwi land!
tiltonboy
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