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[1 nhs] 14/3/2020 14:59

Stop thinking about making money, put your family first.

It’s over

The world has changed

[turvart] 14/3/2020 14:53

Jugears,

What is going on in this thread? why all the doom and gloom merchants? LOL!

Some weird people posting on TW. ha ha ha

[1 nhs] 14/3/2020 14:47

I HAVE BEEN WARNING FOR WEEKS THAT IT WAS TIME TO PUT YOUR FAMILY FIRST AND TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION

HAS THE GREAT 2020 DEPRESSION OFFICIALLY STARTED :


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Yes it has, unfortunately 99.9999% of the worlds population can’t yet see it yet.

Eventually they will.

Mankind is facing a pandemic of unimaginable magnitude and suffering, combined with a world drowning in debt, that has zero chance of being repaid.

It is absolutely vital that you put family first , particular children

We are not far off, forced sellers of ALL ASSETS, (bar Gold , for immediate delivery)

Paper gold, might as well be flushed down the toilet.

I have no predictions on the outcome of this terrible virus.

I do have some predictions on the likely financial outcomes

1/ Most shares are not far off worthless as profits will be extinguished for years, even then, investors might pay a pe of 3 for the the best growth stocks.

2/ Most bonds ( company and government ) worthless as everyone defaults.

3/ House Tiny values after banks go bust and stop lending. No one has a job.

4/ Land for food production has some value but needs to be protected.

Trust in business goes down the pan in a straight line, world trade dries up as everyone wants to be paid up front.

The only medium of exchange for goods and services that CAN BE TRUSTED BY ALL is, GOLD.

No one wants printed sheets of toilet paper. ( money

It’s about to turn on a sixpence.

Governments will furnish the world with yet more, free cash, but they can’t control the mindset of the people, or the virus.

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[alangriffbang] 14/3/2020 14:46

Gbh2 I am 81 years old and I’m not sure I will be still here if it recovers ,I am on my own and don’t have a living relative ,lets hope I get away with it ,good luck

[peteret] 14/3/2020 14:40

Some really big buys after hours.Wonder if the 6 million plus was redfern

[gbh2] 14/3/2020 14:36

"Virus incapacitating so many folk at any one time,"

When I write this it doesn't mean everyone has to have the Virus, to be incapacitated by it!

imo the UK is very close to a lock-down, maybe a week, two at most, IF we don't see figures receding or IF we see a disproportionate increase then the Government will shut the Country down, they've already voted on the power to do it.

I have a couple of mates still in the Forces and have been put on standby, I also have family working in a Hospital and they've been clearing out a word and setting it up as a isolation ward.

At 74 I'm pretty satisfied with what I hear, as for the Stock market, it's bound to bounce back one day and hopefully I'll be able to take full advantage of it.

[dr_smith] 14/3/2020 14:19

I think you are right gbh2.

1. First there is the need for a cure, for this and future variants, and I naively say, to reduce time to find that cure, along with required testing.
It may not be possible, but to have a suitably resourced facility. I am sure the world has a number of great facilties but if the world was to donate 1% of what has been wiped off markets, I am sure those same facities could have more effective team in scope and/or in reducing time to find cure and test.

2.Secondly, this could be a blessing in disguise. We've seen problems before at a local level, and they become a wake up call to improve contingency plans.
This is the same, but on a world scale.

When business were small co's, one business out of action, would not be problem.
Then we have big co's replacing small businesses and if problems are encountered, they are bigger probems, but their competitors can still pick up the slack.

Now, in a world economy with major corporates no longer slef-dependant but inter-dependant, it is like a house of cards.
This CV can be a wake up call to ensure we have a coping strategy, whether the problem is health related, war in a country, natural disaster, whatever.

It is the same "spanner in the works" problem that has faced everyone for over 100 years, but this time it is on a bigger scale, and that it occurs concurrent emphasises the need for more localised independance, even if that costs more than (world) economies of scale. It is effectively an insurance premium for uninterupted life. It comes at a cost, but a fraction of the cost we currently face, in both monetray terms and quality/normality of life.

IMO
Dave.

[gbh2] 14/3/2020 12:57

Jugears, I don't think the Stock market issue has much to do with Dying, imo it's more a case of the Virus incapacitating so many folk at any one time, that businesses and the economy simply grind to a halt.

The thing is we (in fact everyone) is total unprepared in terms of Treatment and or Vaccine, this time next year we'll see the Virus return by which time I'd hope we had a Vaccine ready for distribution and hopefully the "panic" would just affect the NHS (as usual) due to their inability to run the service efficiently.

[pawsche] 14/3/2020 12:08

@1 NHS... I don't know whether your above comment was in response to mine or is on some unrelated subject as I can't be bothered to unfilter you to find out. If it was in response to me, don't bother, you're wasting your time as I'll never see it.

[pawsche] 14/3/2020 11:28

@Jugears..

Too right!

"Millions will die" - Predictions versus reality.

Worldwide...
SARS - Predictions of "millions of deaths". Actually 774 (WHO).
Avian (Bird) Flu - WHO prediction of 2 - 150 million deaths. Actual 455 (WHO)
Swine Flu - was actally quite a "bad one". Predicted 7.5 million deaths, actually 284,000 (CDC) or 18,449 (WHO, only laboratory-proven cases quoted).
(CDC figures for the USA alone were 60.8 million cases, 12,469 deaths = 0.02%.)

For the UK...
SARS - 4 cases, zero deaths.
Avian Flu - 75,000 deaths predicted, actual deaths = zero.
Swine Flu - 3,100 - 65,000 deaths predicted, actual deaths = 138 from 540,000 reported cases (0.026%). (NHS).
BSE was going to cause "millions of deaths", actually 178 deaths from NvCJD.

So pardon me for being somewhat cynical, even though at 70+ with a heart condition I'm in the "at risk" bracket.

It worries me that the near-hysterical overreaction of shutting everything down is going to cause massive economic damage for toss-all health improvements.

[jugears] 14/3/2020 11:00

Gbh2 you cant get much better the Leicester uni

[jugears] 14/3/2020 10:59

Is it just me or is the world over reacting? So far there has been no confirmation that any of those that have died wouldn't have anyway also they mention that some people dont even have any symptoms. People with a cough are told to isolate for a week (I wonder how many people will be taking advantage of this next week as you cant go & see a doctor now unless it is life threatening so no sick note) I have told all of my staff that there jobs & wages are safe for at least the next six months & if they have to take leave for any reason I will continue to.pay there full wage in full Even if work comes to a holt I will pay them out of my own pocket because I have a truly fantastic work force that have always pulled together in times of crisis & am sure they do not need anymore uncertainty right now. This may cost my company in the short term but would rather have one bad year out of forty than to let any staff go. Because when this is over I'm sure things will recover very quickly. Though touch wood this has been our busiest week for orders than I cam rember with work stretching in to next year now.

[gbh2] 14/3/2020 10:48

Unfortunately GSK is the one only one I follow, way too many small guys in Universities in this sector, my bet would be on one of them.

[jugears] 14/3/2020 10:42

Gbh2 Buy them all,be on the safe side!

[dr_smith] 14/3/2020 10:28

Jugears.. Believe it or not I typed that before seeing your post!
..but then I guess the world knows, not just the 2 of us. ;-)

[gbh2] 14/3/2020 10:27

Wish I had shares in the company that first discovers the vaccine :)

[dr_smith] 14/3/2020 10:09

steeplejack.
Thank you for your post. It was the last thing I read in bed last night. It carried enough optimism for me to sleep rather than ponder the state of the world - though puzzled at words Trump and credibility in the same sentence. ;-)
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coffee to hand.......
>As the president spoke, the three main US indexes jumped more than 9%.
I haven't seen detail other than BBC snippets, measures seem to be on same lines as UK, but likely carry more weight not so much in CV battle but for stemming reecession.

Personally, I didn't think we were into recession, the data IMO were indicative but not proof, but CV seems like a psychosomatic self induced downturn.
Lets see if US along with likes of EU and other world initiatives are enough to see us through. It's nice to see the world acting on the same page for once.

Dave

[jugears] 14/3/2020 09:56

The Us are not very good at credibility & even worse now with one of the most irrational persons in the world in charge, One think I am grateful for is that the Uk have some if not the best scientists in the world, In cases of crisis there is nowhere I would want to be but here.

[steeplejack] 13/3/2020 20:01

Looks like the US has wheeled out tonight a very credible plan for tackling the virus.S&P is through the roof after the White House presentation.The UK closed slightly less than enthused at the close.Strong opening ......on Monday