Seeing Machines Share Discussion Threads

[rjcdc] 16/7/2020 09:40

I’m tempted but need to see some more volume first... I might even join the trading club...

[lewbo18] 15/7/2020 15:51

Good idea Base, I've added more today too.

[base7] 15/7/2020 09:29

I have ‘taken advantage’ of buying more shares under 3p

[rjcdc] 15/7/2020 08:45

Entering top up territory... So disappointing that they couldn’t keep the momentum going in order to bridge the gap to the next leg up... They should sack their PR team...

[zero the hero] 14/7/2020 12:11

Fell into the trap nicely, at least you know its not me as you cannot vote your own posts down :-) Zero the Hero 14 Jul '20 - 10:50 - 15745 of 15745 Edit 0   1  1

[shallwe] 14/7/2020 09:25

Not sure why my post was voted down, but hey-ho, there's one born every minute.

[shallwe] 14/7/2020 08:22

Maybe you need to read this article to understand the problem?https://www.eetimes.com/watches-hedge-funds-and-avs-complex-or-complicated/

[tradermel] 13/7/2020 23:49

I may be negative on SEE's PR but ill researched posts like the last just make me want to puke.

[supernumerary] 13/7/2020 22:30

Lew - surely the question is when will L5 vehicles be able to deal with all edge cases demonstrably better than the average driver? If they're operating, and death rates are falling, surely that's enough to justify more widespread adoption? Remember, the best is the enemy of the good enough...

[lewbo18] 13/7/2020 21:59

The new Merc S class looks very impressive. Ken Kroeger on linkedin states that it all started at CES 2016........and here it is today.

[lewbo18] 12/7/2020 10:50

The important question is when will L5 cars be able to deal with all edge case problems and be affordable for the likes of us all to have one. Who will pay for the city and road infrastructure to facilitate this.So until that happens, improving ADAS systems including DMS and DSM will save a lot of lives in between.

[willoicc] 12/7/2020 10:40

The important question is, how many people get killed by autonomous vehicles compared to the number killed by human drivers?

[supersonico] 12/7/2020 10:12

Thanks Lewbo18, Interesting reference to J Rickards and the discussion of complicated and complex systems.

[lewbo18] 12/7/2020 08:40

Good write up about how difficult L5 is and how AV companies are starting to understand....HTTPs://www.eetimes.com/watches-hedge-funds-and-avs-complex-or-complicated/

[cfb2] 10/7/2020 18:54

Tesla has some very talented developers working for it but if you watch some of the technical videos you will discover that whilst the car is able to identify objects in 3D in real time (a very impressive feat) its cognitive abilities have a long way to go. In other words, the AI's ability to judge the correct decision based on changes in the environment. Musk refers to these as the many, many small problems that the AI needs to learn. With this in mind, how quickly do you think countries, states, insurance companies and legal entities are going to give permission for these vehicles to operate autonomously? Proving the cars operate in all environmental conditions better than a human driver (a requirement for level 5) is not going to happen quickly. In the field of AI it is often difficult to prove the inputs that result in the outputs. Putting it another way, what things the AI was looking at to result in it taking a particular action. In the Gulf war the initial AI used for auto targeting tanks in the desert was found to lock onto ally tanks. Investigations showed the AI training had picked up on the shadows the tanks made in the sand resulting in it auto targeting any tank when the sun was in the correct position in the sky. I think Telsa may technically be quite close but every time they kill someone there will be >6 month delay as the causes are investigated. They could easily be 20 years away from having cars driving autonomously.

[zero the hero] 10/7/2020 13:29

egrid1 don't blame you in the slightest always good to take a profit, especially when poorly researched. Understanding bluster and BS (typical Musk) is central to share-trading. Meanwhile how level 3 operates in Tesla is inferior to that of Ford's coPilot360 which is probably (unless the SEE RNS's of the past are BS?) SEE tech sitting behind the infotainment system

[egrid1] 10/7/2020 12:54

Well on the basis of that story, I decided to sell out, whilst still a little ahead.

[seeing2020] 10/7/2020 12:39

Egrid,I'm sure you are correct DMS will be obsolete before it arrives and all the cars will be autonomous. I hope someone tells the regulators in Europe and US not to bother mandating our tech from 2024 as unless that's 24 mins past 8pm tonight its too late as we are obsolete

[baggariddim] 10/7/2020 10:28

Don't worry we'll get a tweet about Ron Finemore soon and it'll all be ok.

[egrid1] 10/7/2020 10:25

Elon Musk claiming that they will have the basics for class5 automation by the end of the year. That will be totally driverless cars. "US electric vehicle maker Tesla is 'very close' to achieving complete autonomous driving technology, CEO Elon Musk said on Thursday, referring to the capability to navigate roads without any driver input. 'I'm extremely confident that level 5 or essentially complete autonomy will happen and I think will happen very quickly,' Musk said in remarks made via a video message at the opening of Shanghai's annual World Artificial Intelligence Conference." https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8506589/Elon-Musk-says-Tesla-vehicles-close-completely-autonomous.html How does this impact on SEE? Is their technology used in cars, beyond monitoring the driver? If not, that line of business could very quickly become obsolete. Is this the problem with the SEE share price? The market know that their technology will be demanded too late to make a commercial success of it, before it is obsolete.

[srpactive] 09/7/2020 21:33

Interesting industry related news, https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8506589/Elon-Musk-says-Tesla-vehicles-close-completely-autonomous.html

[base7] 08/7/2020 18:39

Although DMS won’t be mandated until 2024 we now know that Europe & US will have the same timescales & manufacturers will want to distinguish themselves from the competition & my hope is that many models will contain our chip which can be easily activated as required. Trading Update early next month will be interesting & lets hope ,despite the market malaise ,that PM can issue a confident statement & reaffirm that a fundraiser is not expected