Scancell Share Discussion Threads

[wigwammer] 23/8/2018 10:11

"confused with the fact that supposedly"... I get the impression there are few facts involved in this discussion.

[agema] 23/8/2018 10:06

No folks.

There was never any offer on the table. You might be getting confused with the fact that supposedly a reccomendation was put to a Pharmas board of Directors, to buy or invest in the company. But the reccomendation was turned down at Boardroom level.

[wigwammer] 23/8/2018 09:59

Ok tosh, even though I'm supposed to stick around here to learn my CERTAIN lesson, I'm sure the reference was directed elsewhere. Regarding partnership for scib1 - it is concerning that management disagreed over the direction of the company, but encouraging that a commercial deal was an option. 5 years later, with positive clinical data, the asset may achieve a significantly better price. RG may or may not have made the correct decision - difficult to know without seeing the economics of the deal. Genuine thanks for the input though. WW

[panama7] 23/8/2018 09:56

Bermuda, " RG managed to get NDA's signed " are you suggesting they have added some sort of value. After advising Investors that they had entered into NDA's he then gave a long presentation of the process giving the impression a deal would be forthcoming. This was a minimum of 3 years ago and yet not one deal has been signed. The bloke has pulled the wool over Investors eyes for far too long. Another example of his misleading of Investors along with all his tweets highlighting deals signed by other small Pharmas and highlighting Market Caps of other Pharmas. How on earth can he compare Scancell to these other Companies who have actually signed a deal and have Market Caps a million miles from ours. The bloke is quite simply a fraud who has pocketed massive pay rises in his last couple of years which were paid for by Investors who have seen their Portfolios devastated. He has zero ethics , morals and treats his Investors with nothing but contempt. What other CEO would pat himself on the back for raising funds at 10p knowing that Investors had paid up to 60p for shares. This is why the man is nothing short of a disgrace.

[agema] 23/8/2018 09:44

Why blame Directors.?

The simple fact is. Nobody was interested in buying Scancell, hence no sale. I would look more at the data than Directors. The data was not good enough to tempt the big pharmas. A Director cannot sell, if nobody wants to buy. IMHO.

Have a good day folks.

[drdobson1] 23/8/2018 09:21

Don’t want to enter debate over BOD as don’t feel qualified.
But echo all Toshs and Logan’s thoughts about the Orrible Littke Man.
He has cost people dearly with his LIES that is all we seek to expose here with balanced postings to him and his GANG.
We will not be silenced except if he were to disappear from these boards and/ or apologise for all his deceitful ways or ADMIT he has issues and is actively seeking help to o ercone these difficulties.

[tosh123] 23/8/2018 09:17

Boom,
who knows what the real truth is, its all Chinese whispers.
But it does give some credibility to the story, even though you heard the reverse, clearly there was a difference of opinion and one had to go.

What i would say though is, the fact that the company remains as it was, does suggest to me that what i heard is correct, eg ;- DE wanted to split the company, otherwise, if it was RG who wanted to split, one assumes that RG would have subsequently done it.
Who knows though.

As far as the offer is concerned, the rules, as far as i can remember, is that not all offers only need to be put to the shareholders, but i will look that up again.

[bermudashorts] 23/8/2018 08:54

Tosh,

Interesting, as I had heard the complete opposite - RG wanted to split and DE didn't but of course we'll never know. I have never heard that there was an offer on the table. Surely if there was they would have had to put it to shareholders?

Despite the dreadful sentiment around cancer vaccines, RG managed to get NDA's signed. He also secured funding to allow LD to continue to develop the science without having to give away warrants left right and centre (unlike others!). If pharmas weren't prepared to sign on the dotted line then I'm not sure what else he could have done.

Lozan,

Yes, I'm sure he very much regrets that one!

[tosh123] 23/8/2018 08:53

WW,
my gripe with a certain poster is due to his misleading statements, in fact , his darn right lies, plus his inability to accept that he's wrong, even when proven to be 100%.

He has also stifled many threads over the years, and ruined open debate, preferring to make it " all about him " rather than the company. He is a despicable individual with a very severe personality disorder... Lets just leave it there.

As for any verbal gymnastics required, i don't think there is the need for any .
Like many other posters, Lozan is sick and tired of someones continual lies.
His reference is not directed at the stock, its directed at the same horrible little man that i mentioned above who has advocated his buy buy buy nonsense for about 7 years now.
Anyone who was unfortunate enough to listen to the idiot, will now be out of pocket and trapped.

I'm also bored of the idiot, so lets try and leave him to lick his wounds, in the hope that he will not come back on here posting his utter rubbish ever again.
I hope that the beatings he takes every time he does appear, will help him to stay away.

[wigwammer] 23/8/2018 08:45

Yes. You are CERTAIN I will learn. Keep compounding the hypocrisy :)

[the real lozan] 23/8/2018 08:39

Stick around a while, and you'll LEARN

[tosh123] 23/8/2018 08:38

Boom,
for clarity, this is what i have heard from someone very close to the company, so please take it as exactly that eg ;- here say. ( but i trust the source ).

DE wanted to take the company down a more commercial route and realise some shareholder value. I'm told that with the advent of Modi's discovery, that he wanted to split the two platforms into 2 separate companies, thereby accepting a licensing deal on Scib , and using some of the up front proceeds from that deal, to develop the Modi platform, thereby retaining 100% of the IP of Modi, and keeping all development " in house " and fully funded. ( whilst still retaining a much reduced financial interest in Scib ).

Supposedly, there was an offer on the table for Scib, but RG was reluctant to consider it, preferring to raise more money ( a few times ) rather than get into bed with anyone else, and become fully financed for Modi's development.

Because of the extremely differing views, one of them had to cede.
DE 's health also played a part in his decision, however, the bottom line is that they were poles apart with their vision of how the company should progress, so one had to go.

[wigwammer] 23/8/2018 08:38

Go on then tosh, let's see the verbal gymnastics required to show this isn't advocating selling the stock... "In FACT, most reasoned punters see 'BELIEVING' the SCAM trHYPE as a CERTAINTY to MAKE FURTHER LOSSES..."

[wigwammer] 23/8/2018 08:34

Tosh - with all due respect, there is no proof of your profits here, either from trading, or freebies, or anything else you describe. But really it doesn't matter. What matters is - are you telling the board anything of interest on a daily basis to help them make an informed decision about risk/reward going forward? You probably are, but frequently it gets lost in the vitriol targeted at another poster. I haven't been here long, I have no axe to grind. Just an observation.

[the real lozan] 23/8/2018 08:16

BoB,
Following the 'Frankfurt Declaration',some might ask -
Interesting but exactly what should RG *NOT* have done that he did ?

[bermudashorts] 23/8/2018 08:05

Tosh,

Interesting but exactly what should RG have done that he didn't?

[tosh123] 23/8/2018 07:57

Just to be clear, NO ONE as far as im aware has advocated to sell, especially not at these distressed levels, so lets leave that particular avenue of nonsense.
As far as trading the ups and downs are concerned, absolutely. Anyone that hasn't done so over the last few years needs their bumps felt.
The lack of corporate know how at board level should have been the indicator to anyone invested, that this share was going nowhere quick.

We are all invested in the HOPE, that at some stage there will be a deal. When / if that deal eventually comes, and at what price, nobody can predict, its impossible.

Years ago i called for DE and RG to be removed. Between them, they stifled any share price growth, and i have it on good authority, that they also had very conflicting views as to how to take the company forward.
Ultimately one of them had to go, and that was DE. Unfortunately, IMHO, the wrong guy went, i would rather have retained DE, as i believe that his vision for the company was far more aligned to my own, and also those of many other shareholders.

We will never really know what went on, or indeed what influence, if any, our II's had over the decision of who should leave.

So here we are, many years later, with a share price that is pathetic, and also having suffered major dilution as well.
Hopefully, the new BOD can do what RG and DE failed to do, and that is to get a deal over the line.

[thelogman] 22/8/2018 20:06

Carlsburg, 11.99 for twenty, sixty pence a can, probably some pay 6 pound a drink, do the maths, you will have more money to invest.

[thelogman] 22/8/2018 19:54

Proud of you moljen, on my eighth can of carlsburg now, never drank till i read lse sclp board, comedy comes to mind.Seriously sclp has failed to deliver up to now that is, thats why trading where possible has been fruitfull for a good few on here and over there.Still very frustrated with sclp overall.

[moljen] 22/8/2018 19:44

To all those not involved in the never ending saga / playground squabbling / painting the Forth Road Bridge (yes In I do know its done differently now) can I just saying having a large G&T in hand makes reading the SCLP thread less painful each day. So cheers for forcing me to find this solution to all combatants, irrespective of side, and looking forward to day when you're all battle weary

[the real lozan] 22/8/2018 19:40

"lozan who are you trying to convince ?"
*WE ALL* are not trying to CONvince anyone
YOU and YOUR trHYPE swallowers, by YOUR own words and deeds... HAVE CONvinced everyone the dangers of misleading LIES, FALSE CLAIMS and COSTLY runaway EGO.
Not to mention YOUR distasteful arrogance, and YOUR undoubted 'knack' of getting everything 100% WRONG
Well done.

[inanaco] 22/8/2018 19:28

lozan who are you trying to convince ?

you have been at it now for what, 5 years ?