Scancell Share Discussion Threads

[the real lozan] 16/8/2018 08:56

Riskgate -
A quick glance of M F F F shows the extent of exvhanges { all afternoon and evening - right up 'til midnight} of 'effort' to ENFORCE the silly "NO RISK here" demand.
Who CARES ???
Those who CAN see, and believe = There IS RISK here...will not be 'brow-beaten' into changing their minds, by someone argueing 'til the cows come home', that everyone MUST accept the 'One VIEW ONLY' image, that INSISTS ...they admit there is "NO RISK here"
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NO amount of trHYPE/ EGO will FORCE investors / potential investors / markets.. to 'go against their common sense'.
Investors / potential investors / markets.. WILL / MAY 'BUY' in the knowledge that there IS a RISK
However - investors / potential investors / markets.. WILL NOT 'BUY,BUY,BUY' simply because of a silly "NO RISK here" demand. [ Intended to urge them to do so}
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IF HE and HIS 'GROUP' want to follow 'the silly "NO RISK here" demand.' = LET EM.
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BUT, as *WE ALL* know... This issue is NOT about 'RISK'
It IS all about HIM NOT accepting the FACT... That HE is shown to be WRONG...AGAIN

[wigwammer] 16/8/2018 08:54

The unexpected effect of suggesting that something carries "no risk" is that dozens of posters queue up to suggest otherwise, in great detail and nuance. SCLP must be the only biotech with a board dedicated almost exclusively to elucidating and detailing the risks. Given this point, it is difficult to believe the world is not now aware of them :)

[tosh123] 16/8/2018 08:29

Dr,
its scary that so much stupidity can be monopolised by one individual.
The guy is totally bonkers and probably the most inept loser ive ever come across.

Still, he never fails to provide us with entertainment.
We should actually feel sorry for him.

[drdobson1] 16/8/2018 08:04

Morning
Loggie would increase your offer to help baNANA to £10000 as he will need to Avail himself of it SOOON.

He has Had another Kicking on MFFF by Barmooda Shorties The Spivey Fella and Hot Chicken Wings this morning.
He keeps on Saying HE Can’t see ANy Risk and as he is ALL Seeing Coracle- like ORACLE but his EGO is keeping him Afloat just.
So as he is TOZp scientist and he can’t see any risk then there is NONE so all trials WILzl work and £8 a share on the Cards.
I think he has Finally Fillped and Everyone now knows he is Total Wipeout and sooo Thick that he would scLauging stock ha ha ha ha ya ya ha

[thelogman] 15/8/2018 19:37

There are loads of better money making opportunities why botherr wasting time on here, i find it amusing, keep it up.

[thelogman] 15/8/2018 19:12

After reading posts today my price for making money has gone up to £150, take it now you can pay by coming to my house with cash.Only joking folks, got a free carry here also and hoping for more free shares in the not to distant future, dr keep up the good posts, enjoy.

[oldnotwise] 15/8/2018 19:03

Wigwammer
"It is unusual for a funded biotech with an 18 month cash runway and a path into the clinic across multiple candidates to have an entire board obsessing about risk."
I posted my response because it seemed you were suggesting that considering risk in the context of Scancell's situation was "unusual".
I'd hoped that my comments might have explained the reasons that some investors look beyond the known situation re platforms etc and think about other aspects of the investment which might be more pertinent in the "Market" context, given the unusual history that this Company's had, which has been profitable for some , but (to date) lossmaking for others.
If I misinterpreted your point I'm sorry, it just read as being rather dismissive of those who look beyond the immediate "Knowns"
Hope that explains.
AIMO
ATB

[wigwammer] 15/8/2018 18:37

ONW - surely risk and return determines everything in investment. This board spends a lot of time listing risks ;)

[torquayfan] 15/8/2018 17:39

Agema - 16955 you posted, ''TF posted today on lse about being sure on a share and losing it all before etc etc''

You have the wrong end of the stick there somehow. What I meant was that I wrote that post the first time, pressed the wrong button and accidentally wiped it, causing the need to rewrite it.

Please delete that. Misinterpreted rather.

[oldnotwise] 15/8/2018 17:00

Wigwammer
Surely risk determines everything in investment...
Risk is the motivator for new investment, whether to hold and whether to diversify.
Why do we diversify?
To minimise risk.
The basis of investment in SCLP in the first instance was the route that was being taken with Immunobody which was an attractive investment proposition given the early indications and the relatively short timeline from initial phase 1 through to the end of Phase 2 where a sucessful trial was due to have the company sold.
A straightforward strategy and an attractive one for investors but in 2012 a VERY high risk.
Then MODITOPE arrived.
An unexpected risk in the original business plan for SCLP was then revealed.... That being the complication of the company's business plan where a sale of the Immunobody was unlikely to take place.
Thus the original investors in Scancell in 2011/12 suddenly found themselves in a whole new ball game.
For anyone expecting to be "out" (one way or the other by 2013) they weren't going to be.
Suddenly a short term "fast Buck" changed... Dramatically
So don't mock risk, I suspect the inability of some investors to deal with the change in the company's profile and business plan has been the real reason that so many are sitting on losses looking forward to the day when they can exit at a profit.
Please don't let anyone tell you that SCLP has progressed in the way they expected in 2011/12.
The premise of most investors (LTH) here was to get in/ get out within two years.
Those who didn't have been here for nearly seven years now, many of whom are nursing losses and hoping that the share price recovers sufficiently to give them their money back. Others are happy that (eventually) the Market will "wake up" to Scancell. I sincerely hope it does, but that's a different story. You mentioned risk, I'll say to you that Risk Management is one of the greatest skills required in Equity Investment.
Let's not lose sight of the fact that most LTHs here expected to be out taking profits within two years of their original investment. They haven't.
AIMO
ATB

[the real lozan] 15/8/2018 16:50

As der mad science anorak tries to 'focus the M F F F on HIMSELF... AGAIN -
*WE ALL* here , in the free world might care to 'focus' on more 'interesting topics for SCLP observers.
SO
Has anyone been anywhere 'inreresting' on their holidays this year ???

[agema] 15/8/2018 16:29

Tosh

I could name others as well. Lol. But that would be too personal.

[wigwammer] 15/8/2018 16:05

To suggest a share carries zero risk adds little value. By the same token, to suggest a share carries risk but with nil attempt to probability weight the risks or the valuation outcomes similarly adds little value. The more interesting observation is not what each camp are saying - but how many posters are sitting in each camp. It is unusual for a funded biotech with an 18 month cash runway and a path into the clinic across multiple candidates to have an entire board obsessing about risk. Or for a more positive board concentrating on the opportunities to be constantly at war with itself. In the meantime, liquidity is created and I keep buying. So for that - I thank both parties :)

[agema] 15/8/2018 15:58

Tosh

If you ever, or anyone else for that matter get him to admit calling it wrong I will faint.He would never believe he was wrong or admit it. You know that by now, I am sure. Lol.

Best wishes and good luck.

[tosh123] 15/8/2018 15:51

Bless them.
The proverbial Lemmings.

Even after 7 years of misdirection and scams, they still believe the liar, it really does beggar belief.
Anyway, im comfortable with what i have, and will now just ride this through to the end point, whatever that may be.
Im honestly wasn't boasting when i informed him that i now had a relatively large free carry, i just needed to prove to the idiot that he had called it all wrong, right from the outset, so please dont think bad of me, i just really wanted to rub the arrogant cretins nose in it.

Here's hoping that we get the CRUK award. I might buy and sell a few more if we do.

regards and respect.

[agema] 15/8/2018 15:42

Tosh

Lol. Good saying. Trouble is, the poor souls don’t see it. I think they have been screwed more than twice as well.

[tosh123] 15/8/2018 15:28

There's a saying in the city.... " screw me once, shame on you, screw me twice, shame on me ", i have a feeling that it may be appropriate with a few poor souls over there.

[agema] 15/8/2018 15:25

Tosh

They tolerate him because he sells them a dream. There are always many buyers of that.

TF posted today on lse about being sure on a share and losing it all before. Bet he listened to his m8 and bought the dream. Hopefully he won’t lose it all again, but he might.

[tosh123] 15/8/2018 15:16

I couldn't agree more.
The buffoon who keeps banging on about its how many you hold clearly has no idea about investing.
It's not about how many you hold, its about what you paid for them ! Its very simple economics.
Someone could hold a fraction of what he does, but if they cost them zip, and they make the same amount of money as he does, who's the idiot ?
He has had capital tied up for years, wasting away, meanwhile anyone with the slightest intelligence has traded themselves into a position that they have got their initial investment back, and have reinvested it elsewhere.

I don't understand how such an uneducated cretin is tolerated over there, he certainly isn't over here.
Still HT publicly rips him a new one every time he misbehaves, and that's just poetry in motion.

[agema] 15/8/2018 15:07

Old

I totally agree with everything in your post.

My experience with aim and the senior markets and Foreign markets as well these days, is that the science or ip only tends to go a little way these days. Certainly not as far or as long as they used to carry. Quick spike, then drift down again.For a lasting and sustainable share price rise there has to be income coming in. That is why I feel there is still a way to go here yet.

Nothing worse than the same sneaks keep reporting posters deliberately and in tandem, just because they are not ramping the share every single day. That is why they are failed investors. Because they do not and cannot listen to reason or any voice except their own desperate voice.

Best wishes. AIMHO.

[oldnotwise] 15/8/2018 14:48

Agema
As far as I'm concerned LSE must either be frightened of losing "Premier Members" or whatever they're called, but from my point of view it's so pleasant to be able to post without some idiot coming along and making out that "being negative" (ie not saying that everything in the garden's rosy) means that you must be imbecilic.
Well, being negative as it's been put has served me well over the last five plus years and I have a stake in Scancell that lets me decide whether to stay put or sell up without any financial pain.
This isn't crowing it's a statement of fact, and still for the life of me I don't understand why anyone would invest in a company without accepting that something might not be quite as it seems if the share price follows precisely the opposite path to the one that that investor predicted... however good the outlook. I'm not suggesting that anyone should sell out, I'm simply saying that at least admit that the Market's reaction to awhat appears to be a stonking winner doesn't think the same. But further, to actively try and ridicule others who have had the sense to follow their instincts and make money when the policy of the self rightous few has been to bang on and on about holding vast numbers of shares when it's obvious that the "averaging" has not helped, save to give others an exit, seemsto me to be completely daft.
At least admit their strategy's wrong (at least in terms of others' investment interim sucess) but no, they keep banging on about the future completely ignoring the past.
Well, I hold shares to benefit should the future come right, , so why do some feel the need to say how much cleverer they are when the hold a capital loss?
Baffles me, I'm no Scientist, but sadly that's not what shares are about....
Once everyone knows how good the science is the cat's out the bag and the market takes over.
Oh well, as I say it's nice to be in an antiseptic environment where it's possible to discuss and consider the position rather than have clever (loss holders) telling me that I'm and idiot (and getting my posts removed)... LOL
Right back to work in the garden now....dammit! Hehe
Good to chat...
AIMO
ATB

[tosh123] 15/8/2018 14:37

Afternoon Loz - Agema - ONW - Dr and all,
likewise, i have been watching the pathetic antics of Ineptico and C7 etc over on the other place, and concur that these individuals have pretty much brought that BB to its knees.
Ineptico's inability to grasp the most basic of the English language never ceases to amaze me, the guy it a total buffoon, and shows himself up whenever he appears.

I truly believe that if he is a very sick individual.

Good to have everyone on here though, at least we can discuss matters in an adult environment.

Not posted much recently as i have been traveling, but intend to try to remedy that.