Royal Mail Share Discussion Threads

[encarter] 02/10/2019 12:58

I know of at least one parcel company that has business customers who ship regular monthly items. When the items are received by the parcel company all of the difficult to deliver postcodes like those in North Scotland and the Channel islands are dumped on RM to deliver.

[creditcrunchies] 02/10/2019 11:39

sounds like the only option is to have a central pick up point in local districts and customers get notified electronically unless they opt for premium delivery

[lefrene] 30/9/2019 13:38

Quite interesting background article, but I'm still hunting to find exact current charge figures. This item shows how TNT have and are trying to make 'last mile' work, but are struggling to do so and know when they fail they can dump it back on Royal Mail at less than cost to themselves. The trunking is the fat profit easy part, it's the final distribution that costs. Perhaps with the plethora of delivery vans choking our roads we need a fresh social approach to delivery, perhaps where each district of approx 1000 homes has it's own distribution warehouse and all deliveries get dropped off there, and those with good local knowledge and electric vehicles do the last mile?

[glavey] 29/9/2019 02:06

"So the lead contractor pockets £59,400!"

This sounds rather unrealistic in a competitive environment.

[creditcrunchies] 28/9/2019 00:59

The CWU strike ballot papers will be distributed on the 24th of September with the result expected to be declared on the 15th of October. If posties vote to strike, the walkout take place within weeks and threatens to disrupt mail services in the run up to Black Friday and the critical selling season ffor retailers.

[lefrene] 27/9/2019 08:33

You're welcome grahamite2. It just illustrates the conundrum as to why the State gives away huge amounts of money to trunkers, at such huge cost to RMG?

A bit more arcane info:- Mail is sorted into grey plastic open topped boxes that are stackable but which can be 'nested' when empty. Each box holds 200 standard envelopes. These boxes are moved in trolleys known as 'yorks' four boxes to a level and up to 7 levels high, supposedly to a maximum weight of 250kgs. The yorks are labelled with destination codes so that they can be rapidly identified and moved through transhipment points from incoming trailers to destination trailers. Naturally with general post these 'yorks' are seldom heavily loaded, often only two or three boxes will go into a York, all depending on destination and time of day. It works very well, and RMG are better at that than any other mail/parcel carrier I have seen at smooth flowing of transiting loads across transit centres. This being mostly down to having plenty of equipment, good premises, and well organised identification of destination doors in the warehouses. Plus an excellent system at their national hub of electronic trailer identification, that enables getting the correct trailers onto the correct doors for loading at the correct time. RMG do get some things right!

One aspect of having enough equipment to meet the Christmas season is that a lot of kit has to be stored for almost 10 months of the year, much of it outside in obscure places.

This should be a very good business but alas it's trapped by euro politics and a civil service mentality.

[grahamite2] 26/9/2019 23:48

lefrene, thanks for the very detailed and very interesting answer to my question, and apologies for taking so long to thank you!

[lefrene] 26/9/2019 13:08

Perhaps because 'no deal' looked more likely it might happen, or just anticipating the run up to Christmas? On the down side Amazon having made use of RMG for very very thin margins (often running at a loss), now seem to be rolling out their own distribution system using dedicated hauliers in Amazon livery.

Amazon have had years to refine their use of small UK hauliers, I have seen their operations behind the scenes. One interesting aspect is that in at least two locations that I know of the traffic office and site control of transport has been given over to control by the hauliers. Previously it was in the control of Amazon staff, and with typical American control freak systems it was time consuming and inefficient. Thus Amazon have an efficient owner/operator low cost fleet, it's bound to be making inroads on the parcel side of RMG.

[wilc42] 26/9/2019 07:28

May I recommend that we keep all Brexit chit chats relative to RMG involvements. There are plenty of Brexit boards available to set up soap boxes. Now, why has this share price out-performed most broker estimations in the last 3 weeks. ?

[sao1] 26/9/2019 07:20

If Boris wanted to leave, he should've backed May. It feels like there's some justice/Karma to the way he is being treated by Parliament now.

[creditcrunchies] 26/9/2019 00:04

It's going to be very difficult to get out of the EU. Parliament have frustrated the process to create a deadlock they are saying we cannot by law leave the EU without passing a withdrawal agreement so what they do is keep rejecting every deal we get. Put it this way you are a trader with something to sell you offer a price (the EU) and you try to neogiate the price (the UK) however, the trader has been informed that the buyer has to buy and will not leave so he knows he'll get a sale whatever happens. That means no negotiation and the price is fixed.

To get around this conumdrum the UK prorogues parliament this cuts out there has to be a deal, the deadline date to complete a deal is moving fast the EU panics so realises there isn't much time to negotiate so they loosen up and hint there is a possibility to negotiate. Which was gaining traction until the Supreme court decision where they changed the law to make prorogue unlawful. Immediately the negotiating position has gone. To make matters worse they have passed a law where BJ has to extend article 50 if there isn't deal. Parliament will never pass a deal, BJ said he won't extend but he'll have to so he'll be told he mislead the public and did not tell the truth so the intention he loses credibility. At this point parliament will force an election in November after their attempt to destroy BJ's credibility. Their bets are the Brexit party splitting the vote of the Tories. Voila the election campaign focuses on over turning the referendum vote.

[creditcrunchies] 25/9/2019 23:31

Boris did not break the law the Supreme court changed the law (which they have the power to do) then said what he did was unlawful. It is the first time ever prorogue has ever been overturned by a court. To prorogue you only have to follow the law in implementation they ticked all of the boxes for that it is a legal process you have to follow. Parliament can take action to stop this process one is to force an election through a vote of no confidence which they declined.

[lefrene] 25/9/2019 11:44

RMG would become a great deal stronger if the UK got out of the EU cleanly on a 'no deal', as all the EU laws and regulations would be voted nul and void. The unfair competition for the trunking, effectively a large EU tax on our post, would finish.

The PM acted on legal advice from the Attorney General, he has done nothing wrong, but our 5th column judiciary have now decided that it is they who are in charge of politics! How very European!

[outlawinvestor] 25/9/2019 10:01

Eh, why wouldn't we want to re-elect our law breaking PM? Exactly what the country needs, a PM brandishing blank pieces of paper about.

Anyway, please stay on topic. Some of us want to learn about RMG.

[oiht] 25/9/2019 09:54

The plan now is for the corrupt establishment and media to go to work on Johnson in the intervening weeks and portray him as unelectable. Whether the sheeple fall for it is anyone's guess but I suspect they will.

[oiht] 25/9/2019 09:48

They don't want an election because the rogue parliament know what the voters will tell them, but it's not what they want to be told. Coup d'eta!

[encarter] 24/9/2019 16:41

If we leave the EU the government can return the monopoly to RM.

[encarter] 24/9/2019 16:38

They don't want an election because they know that they would lose. Stalemate.

[muffinhead] 24/9/2019 16:06

Comrades.... JC to do a buyout and a bailout with the people's money

Spender in chief



Jeremy Corbyn to address conference at 4.30pm...when the markets close!

???? vote of no confidence in Boris and call for a general election

[creditcrunchies] 24/9/2019 15:01

it'll be pro EU civil servants they tender all work to other EU states even though most that tender are British based companies