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[mcunliffe1] 27/7/2024 15:15

I visited Strand Road in Preston some years ago - related to my employment at Rediffusion Computers. They used our computers. Perhaps 4 or 5 rigs each with an aircraft in progressively stages of completion. The building is still there but re-tasked as often the case.

I was working in the Wythenshawe offices of Rediffusion during the Falklands war and those Vulcans were being re-furb'd at Woodford in Cheshire. They would depart and get into the flight path over Manchester Airport then press the accelerator and climb at a heck of a rate. Our building would shake and it was seven floors high.

Where was the Vulcan built Vw? Bristol area?

[vikingwarrier] 27/7/2024 14:46

Mc, I used to work on the Vulcan and must have done a hundred ground runs. THe noise just went through you while the ground would shake.Fun times. With the Tempest we could be on to a winner as America limits its technology with ITAR etc going to other countries. Warton would indeed be the place for assembly but I would like to see more Typhoons built just in case Putin comes knocking.

[mcunliffe1] 27/7/2024 10:55

Looks similar to the Vulcan bomber - a wonderful masterpiece in aviation design that was.
I'd guess Warton would be the main production centre. I've been close to the runway in Freckleton when they were testing a Tornado about six years back. Wonderful sight.

[skinny] 27/7/2024 10:14

thegrafter - thanks for the link - I'll add it to the header.

[freddie01] 27/7/2024 10:12

Britain Begins Manufacturing Futuristic Tempest Fighter Jet Prototype
Britain has embarked on a pivotal journey in the defense sector with the commencement of manufacturing for a new prototype fighter jet, marking a significant milestone in the UK’s defense industry. The prototype, part of the ambitious Tempest program, promises to redefine aerial combat with its incorporation of cutting-edge technologies such as advanced stealth capabilities, artificial intelligence (AI), and sophisticated sensor systems. The Tempest program, a collaboration among industry giants BAE Systems, Rolls-Royce, Leonardo, and MBDA, aims to deliver a next-generation fighter jet by 2035, positioning the UK at the forefront of military aviation innovation.

A Leap into the Future of Aerial Combat
The Tempest fighter jet represents a monumental leap in military technology. Among its numerous innovations, the aircraft will feature state-of-the-art stealth capabilities designed to make it nearly invisible to enemy radar. The integration of AI is another groundbreaking element, enabling the jet to process vast amounts of data in real-time, enhance decision-making in combat scenarios, and potentially operate autonomously in certain missions. Advanced sensor systems will provide unparalleled situational awareness, allowing pilots to detect and respond to threats with unprecedented speed and accuracy. These technological advancements are set to transform not only the UK’s defense capabilities but also set new standards in global military aviation.

The initiation of the Tempest program’s manufacturing phase is more than just a technological feat; it is a significant economic driver. The construction of the prototype’s main fuselage at BAE Systems’ facility in Lancashire is expected to generate thousands of jobs, providing a substantial boost to the local economy. The UK government has pledged considerable funding to the Tempest program, underlining its strategic importance to national security and economic growth. This investment not only underscores the government’s commitment to maintaining the UK’s defense capabilities but also highlights the broader economic benefits, including job creation, skills development, and technological innovation across various sectors.

Securing the Future of the UK’s Air Defense
The Tempest fighter jet is poised to replace the aging Typhoon fighter jets, ensuring the UK maintains a formidable air combat capability in the coming decades. This new aircraft will be a cornerstone of the UK’s future air defense strategy, equipped with advanced avionics, cutting-edge weapon systems, and next-generation propulsion technologies. These enhancements will enable the Tempest to perform a wide range of missions with superior effectiveness, from air superiority and ground attack to intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance. As global threats evolve, the Tempest program ensures that the UK remains prepared to meet these challenges head-on with a state-of-the-art defense solution.

The success of the Tempest program hinges on the robust collaboration between BAE Systems, Rolls-Royce, Leonardo, and MBDA. Each partner brings unique expertise and capabilities, creating a synergy that drives innovation and excellence. This collaborative effort is not just about building a fighter jet; it’s about fostering technological advancements that will have far-reaching impacts beyond the defense sector. The program is expected to spur developments in aerospace, cyber security, and AI, demonstrating the potential for defense initiatives to catalyze broader technological progress. As the Tempest project moves forward, it stands as a testament to the power of international cooperation in achieving groundbreaking advancements.

[thegrafter] 27/7/2024 07:47

https://www.rolls-royce.com/media/press-releases

[vikingwarrier] 26/7/2024 19:55

TufanRolls-Royce has had an excellent week at the Farnborough Airshow in the UK. The event has been a valuable platform to strengthen partnerships, create new connections and showcase our contribution to the industry's bright future. I was delighted to welcome UK Prime Minster Sir Keir Starmer as he opened the show and introduce him to some of our enthusiastic apprentices. His support for the wider aerospace and defence industry, its potential as a growth engine for the economy and as a driver of high-skilled employment was clear in his opening speech. During the show, it was pleasing to announce commercial aviation wins including from Abra Group, flynas, JAL, JSX, Vietjet and Virgin Atlantic. Our Defence team were very busy meeting with customers and partners and it was announced at the show that manufacturing is now underway on the UK's first combat air demonstrator in 40 years, to test crucial technologies needed for the next generation combat aircraft, Tempest.The status of Farnborough Airshow as the world's largest aerospace trade show of 2024 means that alongside the public events, I was able to meet with other senior leaders to discuss joint opportunities. In the space of just a few days, it is possible to connect with multiple stakeholders. It was good to receive positive feedback on our transformation and hear how our stakeholders now see Rolls-Royce as a stronger partner. This is an important indicator of our progress. Our strategic priorities are closely aligned with the ambitions I heard from our customers and suppliers, so I expect these partnerships to strengthen further. We were also there to listen and learn. The aviation industry is full of smart people doing incredible things, and my leadership team had thought-provoking discussions about how the industry can collectively push the boundaries of what's possible. It is energising to think how these new connections and perspectives will inspire all our businesses.A personal highlight of the week was the continuing emphasis on sustainability. It's clear that the aerospace industry is united in its mission to reduce carbon footprints and embrace net zero. This is something I care deeply about and an aviation imperative that Rolls-Royce is uniquely positioned to leverage. The energy transition, and our company's role in advancing it, was a theme of many of my conversations. These were discussions about what is achievable now. Our game-changing Ultrafan positions us well in this space and we announced at the show that we will now move to proving it can be scaled for narrowbody applications. We already deliver the world's most efficient large commercial aero engine in service today – the Trent XWB – and our work in making all our engines, across Civil Aerospace and Defence, compatible with sustainable aviation fuel, makes me proud that Rolls-Royce is contributing to our industry's drive to create ever more sustainable aviation.

[smurfy2001] 26/7/2024 14:44

The Best of Farnborough Airshow 2024 - Qatar Airways New QSuite Revealed

[jack the tapper] 26/7/2024 10:45

lol


well done dude

[the don of dons] 26/7/2024 10:12

not only has this rallied so well - it has done the opposite of the multi ID idiot who was calling for 20p when we were at 70p


job done folks


lol

[eeza] 25/7/2024 18:35

Gap now to fill on chart.

[smurfy2001] 25/7/2024 16:53

American and Southwest airlines report plunge in profits

American and Southwest airlines both reported a plunge in second-quarter profits on Thursday in the latest sign of the US industry misjudging demand for domestic flights.

[skinny] 25/7/2024 16:44

Some context :-


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[vikingwarrier] 25/7/2024 16:04

PAL44 it happens and tomorrow we shaLL get bargain hunters and be back to normal on MONDAY.

[pal44] 25/7/2024 15:20

Such a down day today not good

[skinny] 25/7/2024 14:41

Talking of Airbus :-

[davenash] 25/7/2024 14:19

Vikingwarrier - Spot on explanation of 747-MAX stability issue.
If I recall correctly, part of the motive for adding the new engines as to keep up with Airbus.

www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/failed-certification-faa-missed-safety-issues-in-the-737-max-system-implicated-in-the-lion-air-crash/

www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/times-watchdog/the-inside-story-of-mcas-how-boeings-737-max-system-gained-power-and-lost-safeguards/

[careful] 25/7/2024 14:05

yes a good post.
A proper fix for the Max problem would have crippled Boeing financially.

But it does highlight one of the risks with shares in this sector.

[mcunliffe1] 25/7/2024 13:50

VW: That was one of the best, technical posts I have ever read on these threads.

Thankyou.

[careful] 25/7/2024 13:26

Airline shares falling in America on poor guidance, probably effecting RR today.
One CEO on CNBC said that they needed to reduce capacity to improve supply/demand situation.

[vikingwarrier] 25/7/2024 10:58

You left out ejection seats in fighters relying on software to fly. Welcome to the B737 the only software critical aircraft without ejection seats.
The last I heard the FAA were not happy that Boeing was putting it under pressure by announcing certification dates without consulting the FAA. Lets hope that this has been agreed by the FAA. Whatever though it remains that the MAX is an unstable aircraft.
Foreign Object Damage (FOD). Boeing are really going all out to make dangerous aircraft. Take a look at the KC-46 programmes for the USAF. So far Boeing has lost $7Bn due to delays. They built the aircraft with FOD included within the wings. Very much a similar story to the news that FOD is within the 737MAX fuel tanks. Two different factories but the same dangerous practice. FOD kills and has killed many. It’s a basic industry practice to complete a task and check for FOD before closing a panel. In-fact you get someone else to check this before sealing an area off. Boeing clearly have failed to do this. More people could have died. This should never have happened but it has done so on two different aircraft Boeing models.
Then look at the Airbus 320 the competitor aircraft. Designed to withstand a 16g crash without falling apart. It’s a modern standard. Boeings 737 was designed in the 60’s and can only withstand a 5g crash without deforming. This means that if you are in an A320 and it crashes you are far more likely to survive than if you are in a Boeing 737. In the UK one airline flies nothing but Boeings and another flies only Airbus’. I plan never to fly on one airline.
Boeing has a major problem. It has tried to build aircraft to the cheapest price it could for many years now. It has never really invested too much on upgrading the 737. All the controls were still manual instead of fly by wire. Concorde had fly by wire. This despite many years when they could have changed the system but it became more important to make massive profits instead of upgrading their cash cow. Management was far more concerned about profit than safety. There is always a bit of a trade-off but it always comes back to bite you when you cut corners. Sadly, with the 737 MAX it all came together in one very badly designed aircraft.
Larger engines could not be fitted under the wings like previous versions. Boeing could have redesigned the wing and undercarriage but the cost would have been high and the profits lowered. Boeing decided not to spend the money which it could easily have afforded. Instead the engines were positioned forward of the wing changing the centre of gravity. This made the aircraft unstable. Fighter jets need to be unstable to change direction quickly. The controls are controlled by a computer which can keep it flying. The pilots have ejection seats to escape if the controlling computer fails. The 737 MAX has no ejection seats and no passenger aircraft has ever been designed unstable or with ejection seats. It’s very lazy really not making your aircraft stable. It can easily be done and Boeing had plenty of cash to make it stable. They didn't though. They preferred to spend less and make more profit. This ethos ran all the way down from the top of Boeing management.
Boeing decided that like a fighter jet, computers could control the aircraft running alongside the pilots. To make it easy they didn't even inform the pilots and only installed one sensor when Airbus installed three.
Lion Air crashed because the pilots had no idea the Manoeuvring Characteristic Augmentation System (MCAS) was there and they could not manually take control. After this crash Boeing suddenly admitted to MCAS.
Ethiopian crashed soon after despite the pilots doing exactly what Boeing told them to do. It failed.
The FAA are not impressed at Boeing trying to pull the wool over their eyes.

[vikingwarrier] 25/7/2024 10:55

One of the problems at RR is undermanning a lot of engineers have left the workforce and not been replaced. Fixes take time and itS a very slow process . Testing has to be thorough and testbeds are busy. But once fixed then we'll have a great engine for 40 years.

[careful] 25/7/2024 10:54

Always thought that the need for the Boeing 737 max to have smart software and highly trained pilots to avoid disaster on a full power takeoff was worrying.

Modern unstable fighter aircraft are super critical and can only be flown with the use of sensors and smart software.

But even a layman would assume that for a civil aircraft on full power takeoff the default safe requirement would to ensure that the aircraft is safe without smart software.

Just looking at those new larger fan engines, the 737 was always too close to the ground to fit them in.
So did they change the position and orientation from the ideal thus relying on smart software and skilled pilots to correct the stall tendency at takeoff?

Worrying, this is what happens when too many dedicated older workers take retirement, the company loses its experience and makes basic mistakes.
That is probably what happened to the door that came out mid flight, not fitted by an experienced fitter who knew what he was doing. So they get a clueless highly paid CEO, a smooth talker, explain it all to the media.

I suspect the T1000 faults were similar, loss of corporate know how.
That said, they will be wiser now having solved the problems.