Raven Prop P Discussion Threads

[the monkster] 14/3/2022 13:45

that goes for the principal too !!

[cc2014] 14/3/2022 13:31

#1826 No. or perhaps extremely extremely unlikely as it hasn't formally been cancelled yet.

[wllmherk] 14/3/2022 13:14

Does anyone know if we will still receive the dividend due 31.3.22 ?Wllm :)

[owenski] 14/3/2022 13:03

"Russian couple showing around a hypermarket today. Looks well stocked."

Hmmmm, just not with any customers though, how peculiar, almost as if.....

[the monkster] 14/3/2022 12:25

take out the "practically".

[george stobbart] 14/3/2022 12:02

so the stock or what's left of it is practically dead?

[cc2014] 14/3/2022 11:54

Not sure what the spread is if you go for a quote but MM are at 11 - 18p.

Basically they don't want to deal unless they get a massive reward to cover their risk. Or they are working a big order in the background.

[ramellous] 14/3/2022 00:04

Russian couple showing around a hypermarket today. Looks well stocked.

[zangdook] 13/3/2022 11:33

Vladimir Putin: Good, thank you.

Here is what I would like to point out, and it is something we have said many times before: we are not going to cut anyone off. We are open to working with all our partners, our foreign partners who want this.

In this context, the rights of our foreign investors and colleagues who have decided to stay in Russia and are working in Russia must be securely protected, and I am asking the Government to keep this in mind.

[williamcooper104] 11/3/2022 18:39

Or rather only hope

[williamcooper104] 11/3/2022 18:39

https://twitter.com/maximalyukov/status/1502337993012658177?s=21If you want to be bullish - best hope is a Putin coup; and may not be such a remote possibility Would need to happen pretty quickly

[cc2014] 11/3/2022 15:31

RAVP. From where I'm sitting it looks like the Friday afternoon sell-off as people want to take risk off the table before the weekend. The ords are really strugglingT 6.5p

[the monkster] 11/3/2022 15:20

Indeed well said. Is this company gonna survive irrespective of who is marching where.

[dandigirl] 11/3/2022 15:11

Knock it off, girls and boys. Please let's try to stick with matters really pertinent to RAVP. Thanks.

[hpcg] 11/3/2022 12:24

1knocker - Ukraine wasn't in NATO. Finland is in the EU and voted to join. The Finlandisation of Ukraine was underway. Its irrelevant, Putin wants the Russian Empire back to put his name in the history books.

[gfrae] 11/3/2022 11:45

Talking about the survival or otherwise of the company rather than one's views of world politics.
As outlined above it does not look like Raven will be able to pay the dividend on the Prefs even if it wanted to and could and as the terms on late payment are so draconian and in order for the company to have a chance of survival, is it not likely that the Prefs will be turned into equity somehow ?
There is a precedent, the CULS, were turned into Prefs and Ordinaries.

[1knocker] 11/3/2022 10:14

The problem is that there are no defensible frontiers on a plain. The only (and very effective) mode of defence is repeat to tech the attackers lines of communication.That is why USSR troops with a jumping off point in Poland were a grave threat to us. Ukraine applies in reverse as a threat to Russia, as NATO troops there advance their jumping off point nearly 1000 miles east. Look at an atlas. The eastern border of Ukraine is actually EAST of Moscow.

When the USSR fell, all common sense dictated Finlandising' the eastern block buffer Staes, separating the armies of Russia and NATO, and increasing the safety of both sides.

Now? We have blown it, and the best we can do is to agree both Russian and NATO troops stat out of Ukraine, cede the Russian speaking provinces to Russia (which will save a lot of trouble in Ukraine itself) and provide a land corridor for Russia to Crimea (which provides its only warm water port) and only became part of Ukraine in 1954 because of a quixotic administrative adjustment made by Stalin when they are both parts of the USSR.

The tragedy is that the demands Russia was making (which the USA and Ukraine turned down out of hand) in relation to NATO membership were terms it would have been in our interests to OFFER to Russia.

Geopolitically, China in the 21st century enemy, and Russia a natural ally. Not for the first time, we are half a century out of date, and fighting the wrong war. If you go to Alderney you will find a large harbour built in the late 19th century, at great cost, as an advanced fleet base for the next war against France. we are slow to realise that the international tectonic plates had moved, and that France would be an ally rather than the enemy in the next conflict.

The big winner, very big winer from this totally unnecessary war, which the west has spent 30 years teeing up, is China.

[m_kerr] 11/3/2022 10:10

russia are now discussing seizing assets located in russia (where the corporation has pulled out) with foreign ownership over 25%.

[the monkster] 11/3/2022 09:52

I think the div is the least of our worries here tbh.

[zangdook] 11/3/2022 08:23

It goes right back to Clinton, the policy of treating Russia as a loser and not as an equal.

[spectoacc] 11/3/2022 06:44

"(I agree about the monumental stupidity of pushing Russia, a nascent democracy emerging from long communist dictatorship, into the arms of China which is not its natural ally and which shows no signs of emerging from communist dictatorship. Apart from enabling China, it only encourages authoritarian tendencies in Russia.)"


I'd love to hear your solution. Give him the Sudetenland?

[zangdook] 11/3/2022 01:04

I read this (on page 50) to mean that they are cumulative, but I may be wrong




If all or any part of the Preference Dividend is in arrears, interest shall
accrue on such unpaid sum at the rate of 15 per cent. per annum
from the date upon which such arrears arise until the date of
payment. In the event that the arrears of the Preference Dividend
shall remain unpaid for six months then the interest rate at which
interest will accrue on such arrears will from such time increase to
the rate of 20 per cent. per annum.

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(I agree about the monumental stupidity of pushing Russia, a nascent democracy emerging from long communist dictatorship, into the arms of China which is not its natural ally and which shows no signs of emerging from communist dictatorship. Apart from enabling China, it only encourages authoritarian tendencies in Russia.)