Raven Prop P Discussion Threads

[stockstockham] 28/2/2022 08:56

"montyhedge - 25 Feb 2022 - 11:10:11 - 1484 of 1572
Been in this for 11 years, economic downturns 2014 invasion. Always paid out every 13 weeks.
All risk reward, I can’t get this yield for amount of risk anywhere else."

[chinese investor] 28/2/2022 08:54

Well ! Well ! Well !

montyhedge (POLY) 24 Feb 2022 - 11:04:32
Fingers crossed they keep Swift, then hopefully nice bounce.

montyhedge 28 Feb '22 - 08:45
Out of POLY when invasion started.
Thank goodness.

[montyhedge] 28/2/2022 08:54

Yes good point.

[mwj1959] 28/2/2022 08:52

I refer back to point 5 in my earlier post...

5. There is £679m of debt outstanding against an NAV at interims of £1.16bn. In terms of call on assets Prefs, of which there are 216m, are next in line in the capital structure. At 80p that is equivalent to £173m. Is that covered by assets if the portfolio had to be disposed of, particularly in a fire sale environment (lots of oligarchs would love to take the portfolio over if that were to occur given quality of assets).

What is the portfolio worth now? You would have to say a serious discount to the Interims NAV. Less than £679m, so a 40% haircut on an interim valuation where the rouble was significantly higher, and the Prefs have no underlying asset cover. The chances of that being the case are extremely high in my opinion.

This, unfortunately, is the reality. You invest at current levels and the risk of losing 100% is high in my opinion. And I suspect that the chances of being paid any dividends for the foreseeable future is extremely low.

[montyhedge] 28/2/2022 08:48

I would imagine rns soon from company.

[spectoacc] 28/2/2022 08:46

You have absolutely no shame.

[montyhedge] 28/2/2022 08:45

Out of Poly when invasion started. Thank goodness.

[montyhedge] 28/2/2022 08:44

Yes that's a point, the business model and profits not changed, of course the Russian/Ukraine and sanctions change things for Russia.But I would not touch until option money punt at 30p.Kenny, Raven expert any thoughts ?

[spectoacc] 28/2/2022 08:40

"Don’t guess what other investors do, get a life."

Rofl. The 79p is your own words copy/pasted. Presumably you've sold out of POLY too then?

[stun12] 28/2/2022 08:40

I wonder if Raven will consider paying future dividends in scrip to try and preserve its sterling balances. I'd hope they would adjust in some way for the bombed out share price...

[montyhedge] 28/2/2022 08:37

Don't guess what other investors do, get a life.

[spectoacc] 28/2/2022 08:34

SpectoAcc - 21 Feb 2022 - 11:58:21 - 1415 of 1560
...Personally I think Russia is uninvestable.


Still stands.

Yield at 30p likely zero, and presumably if RAVP fell further, you'd claim as you are with your 79p buy.

[montyhedge] 28/2/2022 08:31

30p option money, 40% yield, bounce or bust, pay yer money take yer chance.I would imagine rns from the company soon.

[montyhedge] 28/2/2022 08:28

Good job I did not buy at 79p, what's your point ?

[chinese investor] 28/2/2022 08:26

Well ! Well ! Well !

montyhedge (RAVP) 25 Feb '22 - 07:50
They won’t stop Swift. .

montyhedge (RAVP) 25 Feb '22 - 08:02
At 79p yield 15% got my order on, risk/reward.

[owenski] 28/2/2022 08:23

Make that a bit pointless receiving 12p if one pays 80p plus to get it - if one still gets it.

[montyhedge] 28/2/2022 08:21

Sold after xd, hoping to get back in.

[stockstockham] 28/2/2022 08:20

A punt? An average you mean. You've been cheerleading RAVP and Polymetal all the way down.

[montyhedge] 28/2/2022 08:18

At 30p like option money, 40% yield. I will have a punt at 30p.

[cassini] 28/2/2022 08:18

At least it's not nothing. Yet.

[cassini] 28/2/2022 08:16

40-44 it just changed

[montyhedge] 28/2/2022 08:15

40 to 44 don't you have level 2

[cassini] 28/2/2022 08:14

42 to 46 now via Morningstar

[montyhedge] 28/2/2022 08:14

At 30p I'm tempted.