Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Pphe Hotel LSE:PPH London Ordinary Share GG00B1Z5FH87 ORD NPV
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 840.00p 830.00p 850.00p 840.00p 840.00p 840.00p 0 07:49:21
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Travel & Leisure 232.2 32.6 70.7 11.3 354.90

Pphe Hotel Share Discussion Threads

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
05/7/2017
12:16
Ok; from cash on the balance sheet? Yes, I see this: "..and is intended to be used to further improve and grow the Group's portfolio amongst other corporate purposes."
sogoesit
05/7/2017
12:13
no that is being ploughed into the business. They could still do a special dividend if they want though.
trytotakeiteasy
05/7/2017
12:10
Will there be a special dividend announcement in the half year (from the value raised through the recent sale and leaseback)? My estimate of cash value released is £81m or about £1.90/share.
sogoesit
22/5/2017
16:52
This is from free part of Research Tree Edison on 09 May: "PPHE has consolidated a H216 recovery with a “strong” start to 2017. The 21% like-for-like RevPAR gain in Q1, albeit on weak comparatives and currency-boosted, implies double-digit yield growth in key UK and German markets, which is impressive in uncertain times. Full-year prospects remain positive, boosted by transformative investment in London and Croatia, now the subject of major fundraising by its Arena subsidiary. Potential asset sales and associated return to shareholders, as in 2016, could be a significant catalyst for a share price at a huge discount to real asset value. The 21% like-for-like RevPAR increase is necessarily striking, so should be seen against a soft first quarter in 2016 after the Paris attacks and a c 11% positive currency effect. Although detailed regional performance in Q1 is not disclosed, we may infer at least double-digit gains in London and Germany since Amsterdam was apparently relatively quiet and Croatia was not significant as Q1 is low season. Such a performance was broadly in line with the London market, as newly reported by STR (+11%), IHG (+12%) and Millennium (+14%), amongst others. While the overall yield gain is well ahead of our full-year estimate, we are holding forecasts as Q1 is least representative and H216 proved particularly strong. Nonetheless, positive signs abound, notably continued resilience in London (+17% per Millennium in April), confirmation of the imminent full openings of Waterloo and Park Royal and encouraging summer bookings in Croatia. PPHE should further benefit from the current offering by its Zagreb-listed subsidiary Arena Hospitality, which is expected to raise c £85m for expansion in Croatia and central Europe. At 9.3x 2017e EV/EBITDA, PPHE’s valuation is undemanding against an average of c 10x 2017e for branded European peers."
sogoesit
11/5/2017
15:23
I got the note from research tree which is a decent service, not sure if this one was available to non subscribers but a bunch of stuff is on there ...
catsick
10/5/2017
14:23
Do you have the Hardman note catsick? (what a handle lol)
nurdin
10/5/2017
14:01
Had a few this morning.Looks cheap and the chart says it could breakout strongly short term
nurdin
04/5/2017
09:29
Hardman just put out a very upbeat note on the back of these results, seems they are doing an excellent job on these new openings and upgrades, I think we will see the real nav close to 20 pounds now,
catsick
02/5/2017
22:22
Looks like a very nice trading update, the new hotels seem to be doing very well, looking at the reviews on trip advisor they seem to have done a great job on the Royal park and Waterloo hotels, it sounds like now these are running well they will be able to take out some huge non recourse loans against them and pay out another monster special div, prob the reason for the very large trade that went through today ...
catsick
07/3/2017
09:08
Thanks for that trytotakeiteasy... indeed ROC is low, commensurate with a property business. Anyway share price looking healthier now.
sogoesit
06/3/2017
11:21
Sogoesit - I don't think NAV gap will close. This is a profit story. However, I think the first half of this year will show strong comparatives. Croatia could be an interesting leg to the growth story. The NAV discount does highlight the very low returns on capital that PPHE Hotel Group generates. Cost pressures are set to continue this year with the rates review in London and living wage increases. On balance I like PPHE Hotel Group and note that net debt will start to fall going forward. However, the hotel business is not easy with investment always needed to keep the hotel estate fresh.
trytotakeiteasy
05/3/2017
14:07
Sure, following but investment case hasn't changed: Net asset value discount remains high; patience required. Waiting for new hotels/rooms to come online to boost revenue and, hopefully, profits. Operating results a bit confusing with the re-structuring that has gone on. Since a lot of publication columns and analysts cover IHG I did a quick look to see if IHG are outperforming which it has, over the near term, but not over 2 years or more. I was positively surprised so am sticking with PPH. I think IHG's payouts are significantly higher and, of course, the asset-lite model is significantly different to PPH. (Selling hotel properties likely to cloud the underlying performance as well). Main issue is how the NAV discount gap gets closed?
sogoesit
03/3/2017
00:29
All quite on the PPHE front. Who would of thought they had just made their most important annual announcement (annual results). Obviously not many followers here?
trytotakeiteasy
28/2/2017
08:41
Results out... a bit confusing all the normalized and reported...all seems reasonably ok but will need a fair bit of analysis... trading so far this year is good....
trytotakeiteasy
26/2/2017
19:57
figures tuesday..cautiously optimistic of very positive london trading..and with over 1000 extra london rooms coming on stream this year...looks well set...sub 10x yielding nearly 3% and a NAV over £16 too....
kirkthrust
30/1/2017
07:28
Results in line with expectations... no big surprises!! However, the CEO did say: "the second half of the year was more encouraging. Improved market conditions have continued into 2017 and we expect to make further progress, particularly as we benefit from our new room inventory in Nuremberg and London where our market position will be strengthened significantly."
trytotakeiteasy
26/1/2017
12:52
Fall in London RevPar for Premier Inns. Surprising but could be market oversupply. www.investegate.co.uk/whitbread-plc--wtb-/rns/trading-statement/201701260700091448V/ However, conditions elsewhere appear to be positive at least in December: www.hotelowner.co.uk/7972-london-reports-highest-revpar-increase-since-2012-olympics/
trytotakeiteasy
24/1/2017
11:04
Update should be due this week.
sogoesit
16/1/2017
12:02
Good to see a share price increase ahead of the full year trading update... I was in the area and so had a look at Westminster Bridge Park Plaza and County Hall Park Plaza from the outside. I also saw an estate agent selling was selling a buy to let hotel room in the former for £300k. From what I recall Westminster Bridge used outside room investors to get the hotel off the ground. A number defaulted and as such the company kept their deposits. General thoughts on the hotels were that they are a grade above say a Premier Inn or a Travelodge. For example, some of the Park Plaza's have swimming pools. The new Park Plaza at Waterloo seems to have fairly high hotel room rates so should be a success. However, the Royal Oak hotel doesn't appear to have opened by the end of 2016 as planned. What was particularly notable from my quick look at the hotels is that they are very well located for the tourist trade around Westminster and the South Bank.
trytotakeiteasy
15/1/2017
21:12
shooting_star: 1. Its only at one hotel as far as I know, on the South Bank. A year ago I was offered a couple on a re-sale by an estate agent. It didn't look too great an investment, imo, so that means PPH were on the favourable side of the investment. They report on an "owned rooms" basis so the asset will be excluded but they charge management fees to the room asset holder. If I recall the gross yield on the ones I was offered was about 5.5%. There's a financial liability of £134m in the balance sheet for this "financing". Here's the Note to the accounts from the 2015 Annual Report: 4. Financial liability in respect of Income Units sold to private investors: In 2010, the construction of Park Plaza Westminster Bridge London was completed and the hotel opened to paying customers. Out of 1,019 rooms, 535 rooms (‘Income Units’) were sold to private investors under a 999-year lease. The sales transactions are accounted for as an investment scheme in which the investors, in return for the upfront consideration paid for the Income Units, receive 999 years of net income from a specific revenue- generating portion of an asset (contractual right to a stream of future cash flows). The amounts received upfront are accounted for as a floating-rate financial liability and are being recognised as income over the term of the lease (i.e. 999 years). Changes in future estimated cash flows from the Income Units are recognised in the period in which they occur. On completion of each sale, the Company, through a wholly owned subsidiary, Marlbray Limited (‘MarlbrayR17;), entered into income swap agreements for five years with the private investors. The income swap agreements included an obligation of the investors to assign the right to receive the net income derived from the rooms to Marlbray and an undertaking by Marlbray to pay to the investors an annual rent guarantee of approximately 6% of the purchase price for a five-year period commencing from the date of the completion of the sale. The income swap has been accounted for as a derivative. In 2014 and 2015, Malbray entered into 56 income swap agreements for a further 5 years from the expiry date. The entire hotel is accounted for at cost less accumulated depreciation. The replacement costs for the sold rooms are fully reimbursed by the investors. An amount of 4% of revenues is paid by the investors on an annual basis (‘FF&E reserves’) and is accounted for in profit and loss. The difference between the actual depreciation cost and the FF&E reserve is a timing difference which is recorded on the statement of financial position as a receivable or liability to the investor in each respective year. 2. Sterling refinance last year was at 3.248% Fixed for 10 years. Euro financing, for Dutch Hotels, was at 2.165% Fixed also for 10 years. There were also a 10 year (Park Plaza £87m Fixed at 3.41%) and a 12 year (Westminster Bridge of £182m; £172m Fixed at 3.785%) refinancings. These fixed portion refinancings total about £560m (GBP150m + Euro182m + £87 + £172m) and, by my calcs, are therefore about 78% of the outstanding long term debt.
sogoesit
13/1/2017
08:35
to holders here..I am thinking to invest in PPH having only come across it recently. I wondered if anyone could share thoughts on a couple of things: 1. what is the significance of the company having sold some of its hotel rooms to outside investors around the time of the GFC? I believe only at Westminster? but possibly other sites? I read in a hardman note that these are income units in the balance sheet? I presume the company owns a majority of the rooms at Westminster, but private investors hold some of them? And the adjusted NAV that makes this stock look cheap on asset basis crucially EXCLUDES the rooms sold to private investors 2. With the balance sheet heavily indebted (over 500m debt at H1) what is the sensitivity of earnings and the valuation to potentially rising interest rates? It seems like they refinanced much of their debt in 2016 and achieved Long term fixed rates of around 3.5%..so rising rates would not have much of a direct impact? thanks for any thoughts in advance!
shooting_star
22/12/2016
09:40
Looks like they're spending time structuring and re-structuring the Arenaturist entity to hold all continental Europe Assets. I expect this costs money so I hope it will be a profitable exercise ... in the long run. A vehicle to sell down in Croatia? Otherwise I'm befuddled by what the aim of all this is. BTW last "year's" trading update was on 25 January 2016 so not expecting anything til the new year.
sogoesit
14/12/2016
11:37
Catsick - well we shall see. In my view, the special dividend was mistake and they should have reduced debt instead. Final quarter is strongest for trading typically so will be interesting to see how PPHE fares.
trytotakeiteasy
14/12/2016
03:12
Just got back from a week in London at short notice, all the hotels were full with ramped up rates , trading is definitely very good at all levels, it seems the weak pound has really boosted occupancy, I was paying 50 pct more than usual. Edison have just put out a bullish report on pph, they think nav is 18.5 with upside after the new openings are done, next move is going to be higher ...
catsick
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