Optibiotix Health Share Discussion Threads

[deadcert] 20/10/2017 15:47

Shrewdmole

Ive just looked and it is currently unavailable.

[deadcert] 20/10/2017 15:43

shrewdmole
This is where I bought mine

[parob] 20/10/2017 15:36

I think the listing on eBay.co.uk is cheaper. Just have to search Lactobact Ldl-controlAdnan's case study is all over OPTI's twitter!!

[fredd] 20/10/2017 15:30

Shrewdmole,
I have had two orders delivered buying from hxxps://www.hlh-biopharma.de/shop/
The homepage for the site is in German but this page and the rest of the transaction is in English. Delivery is reasonably quick, but was faster to the Isle of Man than the last one to France! From memory the first transaction was made through my Amazon acc, but the second one was done via PayPal. The cost of the 90 capsule pack was 39.90 euros and the shipping was 9.90 euros to France.

[onedayrodders] 20/10/2017 14:50

loungeact = 7.3

risky ... Fully understand it's not a replacement of statins but I'm still hoping for me will be. And I accept if this is good enough for Pharma's and OPTI make big then great from an investor perspective.

From a personal perspective, I'll be delighted if it keeps me within the acceptable level. I'm not expecting it to beat statins. However, reducing dosage of harmful statins but still continuing to take them would feel like a half baked success for my own personal situation.

ODR

[elrico] 20/10/2017 14:35

The beginning of the commercial process (LP-LDL & SlimBiome) started in May, we are now in October. In this time OPTI have been very busy ironing out finer details of contracts expected to be announced over the next few weeks, some before Christmas. The commercial process will continue for years as each partner is developed. I suspect as these continues you will be less concerned with the "commercial phase" meaning and be more focused on counting your profits....assumption you are invested of course.

[riskybusiness1] 20/10/2017 14:32

Guys LPLDL is not a replacement for statins. Adnans great results show that following replacing statins for LPLDL he has managed to keep his cholesterol levels within a healthy range. It's not expected to improve what is achieved by statins and for it to have kept the reduction so low over 3 months is brilliant. Thank you for sharing Adnan.Sohs recent reference to big pharma would be for LPLDL to be used as a combination therapy allowing people to reduce dosage of potentially harmful products like statins. This would obviously be attractive for consumers wanting to reduce side effects whilst also enabling big pharma companies to extend their patent applications.The consistency of results showing the lowering of blood pressure is phenomenal. LPLDL main competitor will be ingredients like Benecol who turn £100s of millions. The LPLDL ingredient as it stands uses a fraction of the amount at a fraction of the cost and is a superior product without doubt. I can not stress how unique and significant lowering blood pressure will be to this product going forward.When we are talking about a potential Statin replacement when Opti combined LPLDL with LPGOS (the sugar that TATA has just signed to manufacture) there was a threefold increase in the cholesterol reduction compared to LPLDL on its own. These results were found in gut models rather than humans, however as LPLDL has shown the human studies usually replicate gut model tests. This 'optibiotic' will be the optimised product that genuinely could challenge statins market share in the years to come.

[2350220] 20/10/2017 14:19

Wasn't there some talk about LP-LDL helping to make Statins more effective?
Meaning that you could still take then, but less of them to have the same effect.
But I might have imagined it?

John

[deadcert] 20/10/2017 13:58

Got it, thanks Adnan

[portrush] 20/10/2017 13:22

I have low cholesterol but high BP...I’m interested to know if this works well enough for me to ditch my daily Amlodopine and Ramipril which I currently take for BP reduction. They work fine with no obvious side effects, but I’d rather not take drugs if there’s a more natural solution.

[loungeact] 20/10/2017 13:15

ODR - What is your level when off statins?

[onedayrodders] 20/10/2017 13:01

My results still to come late November.

However just some thoughts, is 3 months on LPLDL too early to confirm success ? .. isn't it possible Adnans levels increase over the next 3-6 months to take his current 6 level above the acceptable 6.5 and then effectively back on statins ?

My starting point of 6.2 so is even closer to the acceptable level and if the performance mirrors adnans, ie good however does not quite match the statins, then I potentially will move to around 6.5 or more and then back on statins which will be a big disappointment for me personally.

I know it's not an exact science but wondering whether it will be good but just not good enough for me personally. Fingers crossed it is.

ODR

[parob] 20/10/2017 12:56

I think the interest from this bb alone - especially now we're hearing of real-world results - gives an idea of the interest there'll be once this hits the mass markets.

[deeppockets] 20/10/2017 12:51

I know we are just a supplier of products/ingredients to the manufacturers (except for Gofigure)so we don't get to influence these things but wouldn't it be great to see a TV advert for a tablet that reduces Cholesterol and blood pressure - surely it would take off!

[2350220] 20/10/2017 12:49

Our young Skin seems a bit happier this morning.
John

[imnotlong] 20/10/2017 12:42

All seems to be going swimmingly well.
Just an observation on SoH's comments above - how long does the 'beginning of the commercial process' last? Can he still use this term for another year? It's been used all this year. A genuine question not a moan.

[elrico] 20/10/2017 12:35

SOH comment on Adnan Wolf's feedback:

This reduction is consistent with our data in a larger study group (50) which shows the higher the cholesterol result the greater the effect of LP-LDL on cholesterol reduction. We are pleased that the results from our humans studies are consistently being replicated in individual customers buying LP-LDL. Typically in human studies you look for a ‘group effect’ as their may be individual variations in response depending on diet, age, lifestyle etc. We also know from other studies that cholesterol can vary 5-10% throughout a day within an individual depending on the food they eat and the timing of testing and so a result based on a single subject can be subject to other factors which can mask an effect. However, this is another example of the feedback we are getting from many customers as to the effectiveness of LP-LDL which given its unique ability to reduce both cholesterol and blood pressure is creating a lot of excitement and interest in the industry.

Whilst at the beginning of the commercial process this customer feedback helps reinforce the potential of these next generation science based probiotics in preventing and managing many of the chronic lifestyle condition which cause so morbidity and mortality in society today.

[shrewdmole] 20/10/2017 12:09

I have asked before but where can I buy lp-ldl online?

[deadcert] 20/10/2017 11:41

Sorry Adnan, which one is my serum total cholesterol? I assume its either the 6.8 or the 5.18 to use for the trial
Thanks

[adnanwolf] 20/10/2017 11:28

Serum total cholesterol should be below 5.0. HDL above 1.0 and Trig less than 2.3Thanks

[deadcert] 20/10/2017 11:12

adnan
I started my trial 18th Aug after visiting my Dr for the first time in years. (thankfully)
My blood pressure 142/78 but which cholesterol level do you use?
either, serum chol 6.8, serum HDL chol level 1.62, serum LDL chol 4.63, serum cholesterol/HDL ratio 4.2, or serum non HDL cholesterol 5.18.
My Doctor was very interested. I will let you know results around 20th November.

[adnanwolf] 20/10/2017 10:31

I know I know....... I make the worst patient:))

[john henry] 20/10/2017 10:25

Adnanwolf, Cholesterol levels can be reduced dramatically through excercise and increasing your natural metabolism. i reduced my Chloresterol levels from 5.5 to 3.9 through excercise and decent diet. Oily Fish, Avocado, walnuts etc
i too suffer from Hereditary bad Cholesterol.
I have also started to take LP LDL

[adnanwolf] 20/10/2017 10:15

I don't mind taking another reading in 6 weeks or so. But will be adjusting diet. I had a large choc chip cookie and Danish pastry the night before the test!!! That has to stop. My target would be 5.0 or below as a South Asian. If I get back to 5.5 I will prob add statin once a week and that should do the trick. Patients with bad side effects we do sometimes advise statin once or twice a week. There is a trial on this for Rosuvastatin which showed some reduction. ThanksAdnan