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[gotnorolex] 09/2/2019 17:57

"he makes May, Corbyn and Cable look like town councillers".
I'd question the eyes of the beholder! Shoulda gone to SpecSavers!

[patientcapital] 09/2/2019 17:44

I would think that some in the EU27 will quietly be relieved once we have departed. This will enable the Project to proceed with ever greater integration leading to unification. Italy might be the next problem Country, but they could always expel her.

[xxxxxy] 09/2/2019 17:37

Half time

stred
Posted February 9, 2019 at 10:41 am | Permalink
Yes Peter, They prefer May’s capitulation. No Farage but still paying, taking orders for trade and the new army and unable to change anything without permission, for ever. You have no idea about the bitterness that this will create. Europe will no longer be considered a friendly country. Democracy will be dead and other means will be found.

Cymru am byth

[minerve] 09/2/2019 17:18

Farage is a gobby loser.

If he was a winner he would attract the following of intelligent and sensible people.

A leader of chimps only needs bananas.

20th Century Chimp™

[careful] 09/2/2019 17:11

Ironic if we crash out without a deal and it really does goes badly.
Then Farage and JRM will be toast at the next election.

Farage will be praying for us not to leave.
He has a future then.

[minerve] 09/2/2019 17:01

Shy Tott 9 Feb '19 - 14:54 - 245767 of 245772

➡️ Careful, you miss the point entirely regarding immigration. If we want a trade deal
➡️ with India, then we - that is UK elected politicians and their advisors - can
➡️ negotiate a suitable deal, one usually good for the uk and good for india. If part
➡️ of that negotiating involves Indian graduates the right to live here, then great,
➡️ that looks good for the uk to me, but the negotiators can accept or reject that
➡️ condition as they see fit. The point is we decide, we negotiate, we accept or
➡️ reject deals. Do you see no difference between that and Merkel simply telling us
➡️ how many immigrants, from who knows where and whatever background, we have to take?

Yeah, sure, like you decide, you negotiate, accept and reject electricity supply deals at home. In reality you are forced to pay the going rate of electricty whether you like it or not.

This is the Brexit delusion of sovereignty. There is no real sovereignty.

You are either going to have to accept the deal on the stronger economies terms or your country suffers. End of story.

[keyno] 09/2/2019 16:47

Thank you, gnr. Don't worry - that was just between ourselves!

Careful: I vote Monster Raving Loony whenever there is a candidate. The Screaming Lord has not been forgotten and if it wasn't for Farage, like him or not, like it or not, I don't believe that we would be about to leave the EU.

[careful] 09/2/2019 16:45

I wonder how many are still remainers.
jun 2016 saw 17.4m (out of 45m) vote to leave.

the demographics have changed, with a few million older voters having died, and a few million younger voters eligible.

I think the key is how well things go. if the economy prospers after Brexit then the Brexit parties will do well.
Otherwise Brexit will be blamed, fairly or unfairly.

HMG will pour money into the economy and increase debt to oil the wheels.

Interesting times, we are all predicting outcomes.
Soon the real evidence will start to build.

[careful] 09/2/2019 16:36

It will be interesting if we do not leave.
But a stronger £, rising stock market and an improved economy will change peoples minds.
The Brexit scam almost worked, but the nightmare would be over.

Farage will be a spent force, with an eccentric smaller following.
This will suit him, he is only amusing himself and having fun up to retirement.
Who knows, he may even become an MP.

Politicians like Screaming Lord Such and his monster Raving Looney Party, and Farage, have their moments, but are soon forgotten.

[jacko07] 09/2/2019 16:00

We are leaving on the 29th March...if it doesn't happen watch out for Farage who will form the 'Brexit' party and before the whining delicate remoaners start to scoff, it will have a membership bigger than Labour, Lib Dems and Conservatives together.

May, Corbyn and Cable should be worrying, 17.4 million people who feel scorned will rebel if Brexit fails to happen on 29th March. Rumour has it Corbyn's willingness to make a deal with May is down to this huge threat.

Remoaners can scoff at Farage, but he is the only politician who hasn't flip flopped. The Tories especially Cameron know that Farage is a force to be reckoned with, he makes May, Corbyn and Cable look like town councillers.

It is also, already striking fear into Brussels....GREAT BRING IT ON!!!!!!

[careful] 09/2/2019 15:40

shy tott
I think you miss a critical point.
We have negotiated freedom of movement in the EU. with the power to veto anything we did not like.
HMG and advisors thought that freedom of movement was a good thing for the UK economy and still do.
Stopping freedom of movement from the EU. could damage our economy.

However, immigration from anywhere is unpopular with the electorate.
All over the EU. and in America, populist parties are exploiting this unpopularity.

Too many older retired people and too few younger workers prepared to work hard for lower pay is the problem.
Yet it is the older, retired, Brexit dreamers that are anti immigration.
Not all older retired Brexit voters are ignorant, but it helps.

[grahamite2] 09/2/2019 15:17

God, all this Scotch stuff is SO boring.

NO-ONE CARES!

[bargainbob] 09/2/2019 14:55

Bbc have questions to answer for Billy Bigot and his orange jacket . Someone needs to walk for this .

[shy tott] 09/2/2019 14:54

Careful, you miss the point entirely regarding immigration. If we want a trade deal with India, then we - that is UK elected politicians and their advisors - can negotiate a suitable deal, one usually good for the uk and good for india. If part of that negotiating involves Indian graduates the right to live here, then great, that looks good for the uk to me, but the negotiators can accept or reject that condition as they see fit. The point is we decide, we negotiate, we accept or reject deals. Do you see no difference between that and Merkel simply telling us how many immigrants, from who knows where and whatever background, we have to take?

[careful] 09/2/2019 14:23

The immigration issue a large factor in the referendum, has taken an amusing turn.
Even at the time of the referendum the 330,000 total net immigration number was mainly from outside the EU.

EU. net into the UK are now much smaller (creating problems for many industries), but numbers from outside have soared.

Trying to establish a post Brexit trade deal with India recently, they insisted that all students coming to UK universities had the right to stay.
This was conceded.
Any new trade deal will almost have 'freedom of movement' clauses written into them.

I hope you are all worrying about this.

[patientcapital] 09/2/2019 14:16

Since when was reforming the EU ever promoted by the EU itself? Or does reform translate to mean ever closer integration and Union?

[gotnorolex] 09/2/2019 14:11

Keyno he is a Freemason and thought it was a passport to meet Lloyds names, FX traders and very successful commodity brokers, he was only ever a low profile pig-iron/metal broker who denied going bankrupt, but admitted going insolvent (not being able to cover his debts under the bankruptcy code) same thing wouldn't you say! always ducked his turn to pay for grand lodge banquets, therefore not welcome in proper gentleman's clubs.....there I've said too much!

[careful] 09/2/2019 13:59

What fun elections will be in the future.
The next election will see many happy Brexiteers disillusioned by realty.

The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
It is easy to criticise the status quo.
People never seem to know how well off they are.

The party that offers sensible economic management and close ties to a reformed EU. will do well, especially after the reality of Brexit is better understood.

France, Germany, Italy, Spain and many of the others, these are great counties, the cradle of civilisation for centuries.
What a great club to be a member of.

[stonedyou] 09/2/2019 12:26

Then, you got these utter swine with their noses deep in that money swelling

trough.....Do they want to keep the Great British Isles in the....."HATED EU". You

betcha!!! They do.....



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