Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[cheshire pete] 11/2/2019 13:39

There should be grahamite2 as those who voted remain were the only ones who new what they were doing, or so leavers have been told ever since the referendum lol.

[alphorn] 11/2/2019 13:31

grahamite - it seems that both sides of the argument are acting like rabbits in the headlights. Doing nothing. Almost no posters anywhere seem to be hedging their risks. Perhaps under any scenario they believe that nothing will move?

[cheshire pete] 11/2/2019 13:30

Just providing some supporting evidence Minerve, which I thought you might find interesting. It used to be possible to get hospitals built in the 80's and 90's with FTSE companies. Since then we've had PFI and Carillion. Controlling spend on taxpayer funded projects problematic. Not a follower of Kier, so not sure about your shorting question but see what I can find. People short companies when they sense they are overvalued or unsustainable though. All about truth, realism and honesty rather than lack of realism, fantasy and false hope, plus of course events. Can be argued therefore that shorting is a safety valve to protect investors from paying too much.

[grahamite2] 11/2/2019 13:23

presently we are only 48 days away from irreversible disaster.

Is there anyone on the remain side who has any sense of proportion at all?

[minerve] 11/2/2019 13:07

By Pulex


If our most important personal symbol of nationality, the passport, can be outsourced to a foreign country, then its hardly surprising that they've decided to create the chance for Royal Navy support ships to be built abroad too. In reality, Brexit is not about creating a proud self-supporting Britain. Its about an ethos amongst our decision-makers and a substantial proportion of our mainly elderly, mainly English population, that detests Europe.

Forget the car-workers of Sunderland, who are slowly realising they were duped. The major players are lying low behind the scenes. Its the Rupert Murdochs, the Lord Rothermeres and the Richard Desmonds who have done the massive harm. For Murdoch in particular, an adopted American, the prospect of the EU exerting civilised controls over big tech, hormone or antibiotic infused foods, or the environment is anathema. What does he care where a UK warship is built?

One day this manipulation will be understood, but presently we are only 48 days away from irreversible disaster.

[gotnorolex] 11/2/2019 12:58

Problem is crime, rap and football pays and the only road to riches for those without the work ethic. I saw an interview with a hard working single mum whose wayward son was always up to no good, she actually said how can I persuade my son to take up an apprenticeship on £3.70 per hour when members of his gang make thousands a week on the streets. She thought she had a point but failed to see her warped mentoring and his expectations were delusional and on the road to Wormwood Scrubs!

[grahamite2] 11/2/2019 12:47

...participants who do not consider themselves men or women...

Should we laugh or should we cry? It's a strange thing, living through the death throes of a civilization.

[cheshire pete] 11/2/2019 12:44

Minerve: There are benefits from investing in hedge funds. Public sector and Universities use them to invest their pension funds, so must be ok.

[maxk] 11/2/2019 12:40

Freak show news...



Highland Games considering including 'non-binary' competitors




The caber toss at the Highland Games Credit: Chris Watt




By Simon Johnson, Scottish Political Editor
10 February 2019 • 9:23pm


The Highland Games are considering how to include competitors with a 'non-binary' gender following demands that traditional men-only events should not receive public funding.

Ian Grieve, secretary of the Scottish Highland Games Association (SHGA), told the Daily Telegraph the admission of participants who do not consider themselves men or women was "under active discussion."

He said this and the inclusion of transgender competitors have been added to the agenda "for further discussion" at the organisation's meeting next month.

The development emerged after he emailed the SHGA's committee members about longstanding calls to encourage more women to compete in events.

He said that "it might not stop there" and highlighted a link to new guidance issued by Scottish Athletics to race organisers "who want to ensure they are inclusive of non-binary participants."

The athletics governing body north of the Border has said "we fully support and encourage" including a third gender category for races.




More tossing here:

[cannyshoveyergrannyoffthebus] 11/2/2019 12:33

Inside the head of the weird Brexiteers .

A 20% fall in the value of the pound in the event of a no-deal Brexit "might not be such a bad thing", David Davis has claimed.

The former Brexit secretary called on the government to deliver a "pro-business, pro-trade, pro-environment" exit from the EU, suggesting Chancellor Philip Hammond could cut taxes and increasing spending in a special no-deal spring budget.







Referring to predictions that sterling could plummet if Britain leaves at the end of March without an agreement with the EU in place, Mr Davis said: "Analysts predict that in the event of no deal, sterling could fall by over 20%. Is this such a bad thing?

"Our goods will become 20% more competitive on the global market and our EU competitors' goods would be less competitive."


PM softens tone on customs union in Corbyn talks offer

PM softens tone on customs union in Corbyn talks offer

The prime minister indicates their teams should meet 'as soon as possible' with less than 50 days to go until Brexit

A fall in the value of pound could push up inflation, which could mean everyday goods becoming more expensive and household budgets being squeezed.

[willoicc] 11/2/2019 12:18

Does not matter how many police you have when the courts let off offenders with a smack on the wrist.

The government should build more prisons and at the same time hand over the internal running of the prisons to the inmates. Criminals who think prison is an easy life may then avoid going there when they find out it is more dangerous inside than out in society.

If the government does not have enough money for more prisons, they should ask the insurance industry how much they would be willing to pay to build more prisons to reduce crime and the cost of crime to insurance companies.

[jacksonse] 11/2/2019 12:00

Time to add a few? 5 out of 9 analysts on hl have a strong buy.
John

[polar fox] 11/2/2019 11:50

Not sure what's going on, but TM is to make her statement tomorrow, rather than Weds.
Also, there will not be any voting by MPs on Thursday. Breaking news, no explanation yet.

[minerve] 11/2/2019 11:40

I like Blair. Top man.

[smartypants] 11/2/2019 11:32

UK Business Invest YY Prelim Q4 -3.7% (Prev. -1.8%, Rev. -1.9%)

The 2016 Brexit vote spurred British companies into increasing investment in European Union countries sharply, likely at the expense of spending at home, an academic study showed on Monday.
The referendum result led to a 12 percent increase in foreign direct investment transactions from Britain into the EU between mid-2016 and September 2018, researchers from the London School of Economics' Centre for Economic Performance said.
That translated into an increase of around 8.3 billion pounds, concentrated entirely in the services industry.
Although the authors could not be certain if this would have otherwise been spent in Britain, they cited business survey evidence and media reports that suggested spending often took place at the expense of British.

Conversely, the research pointed to an 11 percent drop in investment transactions from the EU into Britain, worth around 3.5 billion pounds.
"The data show that Brexit has made the UK a less attractive place to invest," said Thomas Sampson, one of the report's authors.
"Lower investment hurts the economy and means that UK workers are going to miss out on new job opportunities."

[smartypants] 11/2/2019 11:25

Essential reading for posters on this and linked threads...ignore the facts..
(who cares about a no deal/cliff edge Brexit?)

Despite weak fourth quarter GDP data, British stocks were moving higher Monday morning, amid renewed optimism about U.S.-China trade talks.

In economic news, the UK economy expanded at its slowest annual rate in six years in 2018, following a sharp contraction in December.

In 2018, the economy grew 1.4%, down from 1.8% a year earlier, data from the Office for National Statistics showed.

Growth in October - December 2018 slowed, falling to 0.2%, from 0.6% in the preceding quarter, due to Brexit uncertainty and slowing global economy.

Post release of economic data, the Pound Sterling weakened to $1.2895 and is currently at $1.2903, down by about 0.3% from previous close.

The sterling declined 0.24% against the euro to 1.1405 after opening at 1.1426.

On the Brexit front, responding to Jeremy Corbyn's letter that set out his demand for a Brexit deal, British Primer Minister Theresa May said she welcomed more talks with Labour on a Brexit agreement, especially on how alternate arrangements to the Irish backstop could work.

May wrote, "It is good to see that we agree that the UK should leave the European Union with a deal and that the urgent task at hand is to find a deal that honours our commitments to the people of Northern Ireland, can command support in Parliament and can be negotiated with the EU - not to seek an election or second referendum."
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Who elected these clowns...?
Surely not the British public?
Perhaps some one should raise a hand and point out that after 2 years..they are supposed to be making a deal/getting an agreement, with the EU (all 27 of them) not there own, and the opposition party..

[ladeside] 11/2/2019 11:16

Why do you continue to hold up Blair as a "socialist" ??

Only an idiot would think Blair had a socialist bone in his body. New Labour were arguably further Right than the current Conservative party and like many politicians nowadays they only used the "party" as a means to further their own cause.