Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[maxk] 08/2/2019 11:03

Cleggy at least had some bottle.

He took on Farage and got his clock cleaned in no uncertain way, but at least he attempted it.

[mikemichael2] 08/2/2019 11:00

Yak Yak Yak, lloyds going up.

[grahamite2] 08/2/2019 10:59

Of course Clegg deserves a lot of credit for doing the right thing when the socialists lost the general election. I don't doubt that Gordon Brown offered him all the kingdoms of the world, but Clegg did the proper and moral thing in going with the Party that had done better.

[shy tott] 08/2/2019 10:55

Sir Nicolas lied to get and keep his position as deputy PM. He thought he could rough it out and the thought that he'd lose at the next election didn't enter his knighted mind. Power is everything to most politicians - serving the people (as Brexit shows) is way down the list

[pawsche] 08/2/2019 10:52

@BBalanjones...

I don't think that, certainly "newsthump" which is in essence a comedy site, and "The Grauniad" which is, inadvertently, a comedy site are good sources of accurate information about anything to do with capitalism. :-)

Oh, BTW - what one of the scots majority thinks about indyref...

[bbalanjones] 08/2/2019 10:50

Poor Clegg was, in the end, seduced by his own lust for power. Most politicians have this to some level but it was a cardinal error of HIS judgement to believe that getting into the coalition bed would result in anything but grief.

[shy tott] 08/2/2019 10:49

so why are we bombarded with thousands of posts saying Brexit leaders were a bunch of liars, when you say above that all politicians are liars?

[minerve] 08/2/2019 10:41

Shy Tott

All politicians sometimes have to be prepared to go back on promises made by them or their party. What you need to observe are the circumstances and whether the original promise was made with sincerity or not.

Clegg had to make a decision knowing he would lose his seat. How many politicians do you know who would do that for the benefit of us all?

[grahamite2] 08/2/2019 10:38

Mr Clegg is as dishonest as politicians get - which is saying something.

A while back Andrew Neill interviewed him and caught him out in lie after lie - which he proved beyond doubt by playing back Clegg's own speeches.

[stonedyou] 08/2/2019 10:37

Remember the "HATED EU" mafia is for ALL, no exceptions!!!!

[fatnacker] 08/2/2019 10:31

hahaha minerve taking offence (by proxy) at the same words he was condoning a few posts back.

[minerve] 08/2/2019 10:24

What do you know about Clegg fatnacker?

[fatnacker] 08/2/2019 10:21

I was rather hoping there was a special place in hell for him.

[shy tott] 08/2/2019 10:12

Minerve. Oh, by the way, how did you make your millions from nothing? Please be specific instead of general.

[minerve] 08/2/2019 10:09

There is a place in hell for some people.

I am sure some of the victorian capitalist Brexiters will not be happy with Satan's socialist views with respect to sharing out the pain, but I have heard he is willing to make an exception just for you. He is going to deliver all the pain just to you, and no one else, just how you like it!

ROFLMAO!

[shy tott] 08/2/2019 10:09

Minerve, Any political plans need the support of ruling party and, in the case of Brexit, need the support of the eu to sail through.


If the opposition plus many members of the ruling party plus the eu want to make the task as difficult as possible, then it will be very difficult bordering on the impossible.


After a referendum, individual party politics should have been forgotten, and the whole of uk parliament should have been behind May to implement the explicit wish of the people. Those who weren't are basically traitors and, imv, there should be some mechanism to remove them from office. Hopefully, this will be done at the next general election (in the same manner as Clegg).


Don't you yourself realise the broader implications of trying to frustrate the results of a referendum?

[gotnorolex] 08/2/2019 09:52

Exactimo Alp!

[bbalanjones] 08/2/2019 09:47

Why disaster capitalists are praying for a no-deal Brexit ::




Part of me wants to smash it all up. I want to see the British bubble burst: the imperial nostalgia, the groundless belief in the inherent greatness of this nation; the casual dishonesty of those who govern us; the xenophobia; the intolerance; the denial; the complacency. I want those who have caused the coming disaster to own it, so that nobody ever believes them again. No-deal Brexit? Bring it on.

Such dark thoughts do not last long. It will be the poor who get hurt, first and worst. The rich leavers demanding the hardest of possible Brexits, with their offshore accounts, homes abroad and lavish pensions, will be all right. I remember the eerie silence of the City of London. While the bosses of companies producing goods and tangible services write anxious letters to the papers, the financial sector has stayed largely shtum. Shorting sterling is just the first of its possible gains.

ETC.

A combination of economic rupture, sudden shifts in ownership, an urgent desire to strike new trade deals and a possible regulatory abyss presents a golden opportunity for disaster capitalism. Our first task is to see it coming. Our second is to stop it.

[alphorn] 08/2/2019 09:44

gnr - in the same vein as 'believe' in his Putin speech in Scandinavia.

[minerve] 08/2/2019 09:41

Brexit leaders are liars. That is why they deserve a special place in hell.

Where is the plan? They make it up as they go along.

First it was a great future, now it is build up cans of beans in your shed.

What a complete and utter farce. Brexiters are pathetic, sad people. It is laughable, it really is. The rest of the world are shocked at the stupidity and behaviour of the Little Englanders.

[gotnorolex] 08/2/2019 09:37

Trump says at National Prayer Breakfast that one of America's greatest accomplishments is the ‘abolition of civil rights’ (Freudian slip of an ignorant man!)