Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[diku] 06/2/2019 21:44

If Tusk is making those comments in the open can you imagine what he might be saying behind closed doors...

[xxxxxy] 06/2/2019 21:41

Hell

And they built ovens

And they killed 30 million Russians

Tusck. The latest from the lands of Mafia and Gestapo.

We know what you think

We know you only want The Treasure House of the UK.

We now know the Evil lurking in your minds of the EUSSR

LEAVE an WTO

[cheshire pete] 06/2/2019 21:40

As Boris said months ago they can go whistle for the £39 billion.

[diku] 06/2/2019 21:34

With Tusk comments all the more reasons to a clean cut Brexit...and only pay the £39bln if and when the trade deal is done asap...

[xxxxxy] 06/2/2019 21:24

BACKSTOP ILLEGAL UNDER EU LAW

It’s not just the legality of the backstop under UK law and the Good Friday Agreement that is being challenged, now a leading legal firm has said that the backstop is also illegal under EU law.
HerbertSmithFreehills state in their latest ‘View From Brussels’ ;briefing that:
“on the basis of the EU’s own view of what is legally allowed under Article 50 and on the basis of which the negotiations proceeded, the backstop in its present form is illegal as a matter of EU law. The Attorney-General of the UK came to a similar conclusion in paragraph 17 of his advice to the government of 13 November 2018. It could also be argued that the backstop is inconsistent with the aim of the Treaty on the European Union to promote peace (expressed in its Article 3) since it is inconsistent with the institutional provisions of the Belfast/Good Friday Agreement and therefore undermines it.”
There is also a formalised legal procedure in the EU for ensuring the legality of an envisaged international agreement set out under Article 218(11) of the TFEU, which could force the ECJ to give a ruling before 29th March. The backstop is only being kept alive by bluster from the EU – and the acquiescence of the UK…
h/t Henry Newman
UPDATE: One of the two co-authors of the briefing note, Eric White, was the head of the Trade and WTO Group of the European Commission’s Legal Service until two years ago. If even he thinks it’s illegal…

[cheshire pete] 06/2/2019 21:14

Wow PC good find dynamite...let them try and spin their way out of that. No deal, LEAVE and WTO.

[patientcapital] 06/2/2019 21:10

"In a briefing from Herbert Smith Freehills lawyers concluded that "the backstop in its present form is illegal as a matter of EU law".They argued that it broke EU laws because it wasn't consistent with promises to "promote peace" as it defied the Good Friday Agreement with Northern Ireland.And it concludes that the backstop "has no end date" and could last forever – exactly what Brexiteers fear.The experts say that if the backstop were given a time limit, or the ability for one side to pull out of it, then it could work and be consistent with other EU treaties.The EU should accept and change if to get it through the Commons, it hints, or put all of it in the arrangements for Britain's future with the bloc."

[cheshire pete] 06/2/2019 21:04

No deal = real Brexit. Anything else is remain dressed up as Brexit.

[k38] 06/2/2019 20:53

To he'll with these unelected mafia bureaucrats in Brussels.. They are desperate for a deal but they want the cake and keep. I say No Deal !!

[cheshire pete] 06/2/2019 20:35

No deal more likely following Tusk's outburst. Bring it on Leave and WTO.

[polar fox] 06/2/2019 20:31

Bloomberg has posted this tonight. It confirms our expectation from earlier today.
Anything to waste time, keep the clock ticking:

The U.K. Parliament’s next opportunity to vote on Brexit, which had been expected for Feb. 14, could be delayed, a U.K. official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Last week, aiming to buy herself time and stop Parliament from taking over the Brexit process, Prime Minister Theresa May had promised that, if she didn’t have a fresh deal by Feb. 13, she would make a statement that day and lay a motion that they could vote on the next day, giving them another chance to call for an extension of negotiations.

The official said both that a deal was unlikely to be agreed in the next week, and that the vote could take place later. A parliamentary recess planned for the following week has been cancelled.

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[cheshire pete] 06/2/2019 20:29

Oh, and pretend that they don't exist ……...fantasy.

[bargainbob] 06/2/2019 20:20

Ireland declaring a united Ireland referendum if May continues her stance. More interesting than those without plans going to hell today.

[alphorn] 06/2/2019 20:10

As soon as you read collusion with corrupt consultants to defraud and asset strip struggling businesses it becomes serious. Also note that six people have received cumulative jail terms of 47-and-a-half years for their part in the £245m fraud.
It seems to be HBOS related? Was that run by cowboys?

Do not appear to be huge numbers for the bank though.

[cheshire pete] 06/2/2019 20:07

For those of you who think us leavers didn't know what we were doing lol

[poikka] 06/2/2019 20:01

Bob, our politicians could be similarly offensive to Brussels for being obstructive and failing to reach an agreement. All they can say is that the WA is not for negotiation - or haven't you been listening?

We can only plan so far, the rest is up to negotiation - and that requires flexibility from both sides. That said, it's quite clear from the UK that we wish to leave the club, and would like to do so with what should have been a very easy trade deal.

Unfortunately, the EU has said that they will make us suffer - not my words, but theirs! So, if you as a Scot who wishes for Independence, and I sincerely hope that you get it and achieve a good trade deal with the rest of the Union, want to support Tusk, I'd like all to know that you don't speak for the rest of us South of the border.

[philanderer] 06/2/2019 19:59

Noel Edmonds’ lawyer to take on Lloyds Banking Group over Bristol allegations

[bargainbob] 06/2/2019 19:42

No that not what he is saying . He saying those who did this with no planning should go to hell. A big difference .

Support your fellow citizen k38.

[bargainbob] 06/2/2019 19:27

They are dead to me lol

[petersinthemarket] 06/2/2019 19:25

A black can filter a black and anyone needs filtering for publishing those two terrifying images in #245399 - maxk filtered - almost nothing left to read now - hows Lloyds doing? - anyone know?

[poikka] 06/2/2019 19:07

"Brussels officials were quick to clarify Mr Tusk's remarks, stressing to BBC correspondent Adam Fleming that the Brexiteers' special place in hell would be for when they are dead and "not right now"."

Oh that's ok then.

[diku] 06/2/2019 19:02

bob...yes there was a documentary last year on this so called ghost cities lying empty...64mln is just too much...they use the words (may be)...