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[careful] 21/12/2018 13:55

Too many petitions will give the mp's an excuse for a second referendum.
..by public demand, both sides wishing to express themselves.

I look on a second referendum as being to similar to the cooling off period when you get conned into buying sub standard goods.
A sort of consumer protection.

[k38] 21/12/2018 13:50

The proposed EU budget for 2019 is €166 billion in commitments and €149 billion in payments.

[thomstar] 21/12/2018 13:39

True - but still beating the remain petition...

[careful] 21/12/2018 13:21

The EU. budget is 160bn euro for next year.
That is for more than 500m people.
The UK government budget is a bit over £800bn for 65m people.

That is the whole attraction of being in the EU.
We get all of the benefits for a net outlay of £9bn (1.1%)

[careful] 21/12/2018 13:15

xxxxy

do you really believe that £9bn per year will crash the Euro?
Euro GDP is $20 Trillion per annum.
That is $20,000bn.
I have noticed that Brexiteers rarely understand numbers.

But you are right if you suggest that £9bn per annum will cause a gap in the EU. budget.
The EU. annual budget is quite small compared to the size of the economies and is a very efficient use of funds.

Google ''EU budget' and study it.

[ladeside] 21/12/2018 13:13

I'm pretty sure that there will have been various risk assessments carried out on the fallout of a failed Brexit / U turn and again I'm pretty sure that it will have concluded that the NW of England would be the worst hit along with pockets of trouble across the NE, SW, midlands and small parts of Wales.

However, ultimately a few nights of rioting in the likes of Blackburn, Burnley, Blackpool and County Durham will be seen as a more than acceptable outcome and once they've calmed down from their looting and burning the odd car or two, we can all return to the EU status quo and just get on with it, without any further ridiculous thoughts towards the matter...........

Viva Europa

[xxxxxy] 21/12/2018 13:11

Bob
Posted December 21, 2018 at 10:48 am | Permalink
Some government ministers are declaring that they will not agree to leave the EU without a deal. So the EU says no deal then!

It’s not rocket surgery.

Where do you get there idiots from?

Atlas
Posted December 21, 2018 at 11:22 am | Permalink
John,
…Don’t forget the Climate Change economic damage that the EU is rushing to bind us all into…

Anyway, amidst all this Remoaner gloom being peddled elsewhere, may I wish you a Happy Christmas and a Prosperous (WTO) New Year !

Peter Wood
Posted December 21, 2018 at 11:55 am | Permalink
No, this is because buyers are already borrowed up to limit and there is the start of a worldwide economic downturn. Look at the stats for personal indebtedness and house affordability, they are at extreme levels.
In 2007-10 Governments and central banks flooded western economies with cheap money that disturbed the natural cycle of economic Darwinism, which would have eliminated moribund companies and industries. We will now pay the price of that policy.

LEAVE and WTO. New Global World. Trade here, there and everywhere. Fortune favours the brave.

Sometimes creatures fear freedom whilst they linger looking out of their cages and will not go through the open door. We have seen the human equivalent this year. Can understand the young who have never tasted freedom that is on offer. But do not understand old people being so fearful of freedom and oportunity. Such is life. Onwards and upwards.

[minerve] 21/12/2018 13:07

"Brexit is the death of manufacturing by a thousand cuts. "

LOL

[xxxxxy] 21/12/2018 13:05

The European fall in car sales
By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: DECEMBER 21, 2018
Some in government wrongly worry that Brexit could damage our car industry. Latest sales figures show there is plenty of damage being done by EU regulations, UK taxes and a credit squeeze before we leave. Why doesn’t any of this worry them? Why don’t they do something to stop it?

[minerve] 21/12/2018 13:01

I hope the fact that I will be proved right will allow you chimps to permit me a serious amount of 2019 schadenfreude. ;)

[minerve] 21/12/2018 12:56

"Ralf Speth, Jaguar Land Rover chief executive, previously warned that a “no-deal”; Brexit would make car manufacturing in the UK ➡️ unviable.⬅5039; "

unviable | ʌnˈvʌɪəb(ə)l |
adjective
not capable of working successfully; not feasible:





Don't say he hasn't warned you chimps. I'll be back to remind you when it happens if we get a hard-Brexit.

Don't you worry, Minerve will be here in 2019 to formally stamp CHIMP on your foreheads. I'm going to need plenty of chimp skin ink! LOL

[xxxxxy] 21/12/2018 12:55

The withdrawal Agreement of May shackles us as a colony to the EU
Because:
TEMPORARY. What is ' temporary'.
Define 'temporary'

Income tax was a temporary tax to fund the Napoleonic Wars. It was was introduced in 1799 as a 'temporary' tax. But it is still with us. Just one example of 'temporary' effectively becoming permanent.

So May and her current Withdrawal Agreement had better rigorously define 'temporary' or any other waffle that she and her EU concocts.

Legal documents have to be rigorously DEFINED.

May has been blinded by the EU.
We, The People are not so gullible.

SO. DEFINE. TEMPORARY

The Backstop is temporary – what is this temporary?

SO. DEFINE. TEMPORARY

[minerve] 21/12/2018 12:46

"Fortune favours the brave."

Rather fortune favours those that know what they are doing. LOL

Perhaps you need to look for another motto seeing as you are most likely skint!

ROFLMAO!

[xxxxxy] 21/12/2018 12:37

The Euro will collapse without that £39 billion we will not pay(mostly)

[xxxxxy] 21/12/2018 12:36

'The FTSE 100 has now slumped to a two-year low after a deterioration on European markets this morning.

A third day of decline in global stocks has been pinned on worries over another government shutdown in the US. The EuroStoxx 50, which tracks Eurozone blue-chips, is now on the brink of sliding into bear market territory.

Stock futures indicate that US markets will suffer a third straight day of losses this afternoon. The S&P 500 has plunged 7pc in just a week.'

Telegraph

[xxxxxy] 21/12/2018 12:26

Some may be too careful and worry too much. Fortune favours the brave. My view only. Get stuck in.

[stonedyou] 21/12/2018 12:23

Shot your FOX did I.....



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[minerve] 21/12/2018 12:20

The number of cars made by UK plants in the month fell 19.6 per cent to 129,030, the sharpest fall since November 2008, according to figures published by the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders.

While production for the home market fell 1.9 per cent to 23,809 vehicles, exports dropped by 22.8 per cent to 105,221 vehicles.

FT

[optomistic] 21/12/2018 12:07

Just went out of the red a moment ago...blimey!