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[maxk] 19/12/2020 20:54

Nut nuts should be interested in the above article..

[maxk] 19/12/2020 20:53

Nearly all fish caught in protected areas of British waters end up in EU, investigation finds


Trawlermen have been accused of 'unlawful asset stripping,' boosting calls for the Government to ban destructive fishing after leaving EU

By
Emma Gatten,
ENVIRONMENT EDITOR
19 December 2020 • 3:36pm



Ministers are hesitant to move while negotiations over fishing rights are ongoing with the EU CREDIT: Suzanne Plunkett/Greenpeace United Kingdom



Nearly all fish caught in a marine protected area off the coast of Britain ended up in the EU, an investigation has found, as trawlermen were accused of "unlawful asset stripping".

A report by Blue Marine Foundation, a leading NGO, found that the UK accounted for less than five per cent of the more than 100,000 tonnes of fish that were brought to shore at Dogger Bank in the North Sea in 2017 and 2018.

The data will boost calls for the Government to ban destructive fishing in the area after the UK leaves the EU on January 1.

Separate analysis by the Marine Conservation Society has found that Dogger Bank could store up to five million tonnes of carbon, equivalent to running 200,000 cars annually.

The NGO says damage to the seabed from trawlers could damage £200 million worth of carbon storage habitat by 2040, at a time when the UK is trying to drive its overall emissions down.

The Government is currently consulting on what extra protections to extend to five marine protected areas including Dogger Bank, where sandeels, crabs and flatfish provide a vital food source for birds, porpoises and seals.

The area has been the subject of a recent campaign by Greenpeace, which has dropped boulders in the sea in a bid to stop bottom trawlers which they say are destroying the seabed.

Blue argues that all destructive fishing practices in the area are illegal under the Offshore Habitats Regulations which outlines protections for marine sites and said the data revealed an “unlawful asset-stripping operation” in the Dogger Bank.

“What should make it even easier for ministers to enforce the law is the disclosure today that almost none of this unlawful fishing activity is actually benefiting the UK Treasury and in fact it is damaging a marine asset that absorbs lots of carbon, thereby costing the UK money reducing its emissions elsewhere in the economy,” said Charles Clover, executive director at Blue.

MCS, Blue and Greenpeace recently joined charity Oceana in writing to Defra ministers to call for swift protection for all 73 of the UK’s offshore marine protected areas once the UK is free from the Common Fisheries Policy from next year, including a ban on pelagic supertrawlers and bottom towed fishing gear.

But ministers are hesitant to move too quickly while negotiations over fishing rights are ongoing with the EU.

“What’s happening on the Dogger Bank is not an isolated example – throughout the UK’s waters, we see supposedly protected areas full of destructive industrial fishing boats that don’t even land their catch in UK ports,” said Will McCallum, head of oceans at Greenpeace.

“Now with Brexit looming large on the horizon, our Government must seize this second chance to turn promises into a reality by properly protecting our marine protected areas and ensuring that our local, more sustainable fleet has great access to our fish.”




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[jl5006] 19/12/2020 20:46

So New
Enjoy ur wine - that alone will not kill u but NHS will have a v good try
Dont take sweets from strangers.

[newbank] 19/12/2020 20:18

K38

Post 451

Though I agree with your take on Christmas only being one year, I think your statement that most of us will have 99 in our lifetime is contrary to statistics.

The life expectancy of a man is approx 84

Many many die younger and one can say that in normal times anyone who dies over the age of 74 doesn't raise much of an interest as it's expected, as natural causes. You never hear of Joe Bloggs dying, his age being, say, 80 and the general population show signs of surprise; it comes as an expected fact of life.

Actuaries might disagree, but their argument is centred around the fact that they don't want people to take out of a pension more than they put in.

Anyone with underlying issues, that average age reduces significantly, ie, blood pressure, obesity, lack of daily exercise, drinking too much, smoking etc etc.

In fact many younger people would say (to the annoyance of us all), anyone pushing 74 is waiting for God. Not a nice term but many a truth in that statement

[jl5006] 19/12/2020 20:13

IGN
Some 5 years ago I went to A & E - having slipped in a shower in Cuba - having travelled for 12 hours I was made to wait for hours for a shoulder xray. That was the labour target .
That was the ruination of the LA and Heath system.
I do not have to see you for 4 hours - LA I do not have to respond to ur complaint for 3 days.
Tories have done very very little to address NHS - Hunt was a WOS -

[ignoble] 19/12/2020 19:44

Good point Mike...

[jl5006] 19/12/2020 19:44

Credibility has been totally elasticated -
Y could u not argue against a computer module ?
DC would have done that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ignoble] 19/12/2020 19:43

Absolutely, common sense and straightforward.

You may have read earlier that I had a few hours in A and E.
Sitting for hours watching what is going on kind of makes you frustrated.
Absolutely nobody in charge to pull rank and advise the staff where and what they should be doing.

[mikemichael2] 19/12/2020 19:41

josh 3219 Dec '20 - 15:17 - 325395 of 325453
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Indians came to this country in the 1950s with 3 pounds in their pockets worked in foundries and other hard intensive jobs within 20 twenty years they had all become home owners their children opened corner shops and worked long hours and forced supermarkets to open 7 days and longer hours their grandchildren excelled in education and most are in highly paid professions not for us your council houses or your benefits we believe in this country and have mostly been rewarded by it

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Who mentioned them???

[jl5006] 19/12/2020 19:36

yes IGN
As I have posted stats b4 365k ppl over 80 die each year - the bulk in the nov..feb period.
The insanity of this NHS driven madness is that it proclaims it cant manage - so we must close down society.
I have another suggestion - close down the NHS - use Nightingales for covid cases and mortuaries for others.

[ignoble] 19/12/2020 19:28

Further 534 people have passed away, sadly
I for one, would be more trusting of any statistic is we were told where these people lost their lives, perhaps ages and any underlying preexisting condition.
Instead, I am expected to accept as fact any number that is released without any real definition.
I am aware of a good few people who have picked up Covid.
One or two of my age thought it a bit of a horror but no worse than a bad flu.
Younger folk, seem to breeze through it in a couple of days but takes a while to really shake it off.
Always exceptions, I know...

[jl5006] 19/12/2020 19:27

We do not have the enlightenment in our literature - but that does not mean we should ignore theirs or not grow from their literature.
deal or no deal

[k38] 19/12/2020 19:27

It's only one Christmas ffs.. stop complain. Most of us will have 99 Christmas in our lifetime if we keep ourselves save.

[jl5006] 19/12/2020 19:23

How can there be logic in destroying the welfare of 48 million people for the sake of 2 million walking dead?
Is it only the French who understand existence? Think about that? Je pense donc je suis et al.

[asa8] 19/12/2020 19:20

Breaking news Santa has had to cancel
This years present deivering due to
Blitzen the reindeer testing positive for
A mutant strain of covid and a replacement reindeer not available due to not been in Santa’s bubble

[k38] 19/12/2020 19:17

Boris is great.. shame labour supporters hate him because they keeping them out of power.

[utrickytrees] 19/12/2020 19:14

Wtf maxk where r u at? Ffs have you been on the R4 all afternoon? Mukka, real life isnt a sort of satirical tyre kicking event. C'mon stay strong dud! I thought Bozzington was fabulous this evening...get real old son :)

[investtofly] 19/12/2020 19:07

He's trying to save those Old Farts in The House of Lords

[investtofly] 19/12/2020 19:00

Think how much they are saving on Pensions and the income from Death Duties

[jl5006] 19/12/2020 18:58

And the data should reflect the winter norm.
I do not understand why a guy such as BJ - not a dimwit has been outflanked by Not so bright and kipper.
As I said b4 - lets protect the 2 million walking dead to kill the 48 million living.
Any answers BJ?

[investtofly] 19/12/2020 18:55

DOOMSBERG you mean?

[asa8] 19/12/2020 18:48

2025 Britain has just entered its 25th lockdown