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[cheshire pete] 20/10/2019 18:01

Fine Alphorn. Look at the whole package. Remember what a great footballer Roy Keane was, yet he had his shortcomings as he himself would admit but not many. Take the rough with the smooth.

[xxxxxy] 20/10/2019 18:01

And one FACT to remember is thay the MAJORITY VOTED to LEAVE.LEAVE and LEAVE and LEAVE

[xxxxxy] 20/10/2019 17:58

The truth about the EU's Customs UnionBrexit Fightback - One-pager no.8 – The Customs Union - Nine Brexit groups endorsing?    ?© Bexit Facts4EU.Org. Click right image for the one-page factsheet.The EU Customs Union is about selling goodsThe EU27 countries made a profit of £95 BILLION selling goods to the UK last yearRemain MPs talk a lot about the EU's Customs Union. Few know much about it. Below we present some real facts, researched from HMRC, the EU's official statistics agency Eurostat, the EU Commission, and the House of Commons Library.This one-pager shows how the EU27 countries profit massively by selling goods to the UK.You can now download this information as a simple, one-page PDF leafletOr you can read it below. We hope you find it useful.This is factsheet no.8 in our Brexit Fightback Initiative.BREXIT FACTS4EU.ORG SUMMARYThe EU Customs Union is about selling goodsThe EU27 countries made a profit of £95 BILLION selling goods to the UK last yearThe official data below comes from HMRC, from Eurostat, from the EU Commission, and from the HoC Library.For the EU, the UK is a big earner when it comes to its Customs Union goods trade with the UK?The EU27 countries made £95 billion pounds profit from the UK in 2018 aloneThey sold us £266 billion of goods last yearThey only bought £172 billion of goods from usIt's little wonder the EU27 refer to the UKas 'Treasure Island'Click chart to enlarge - © Brexit Facts4EU.OrgSince the EU Referendum in 2016, the EU27 countries have soldover £¼ TRILLION pounds more goods to the UK than we have sold to themBREXIT FACTS4EU.ORG SUMMARYTrading with the EU? No membership of anything is required179 non-EU states around the world sell into the EU [EU data]They are not members of the Customs Union, but they sell successfully to the EUThey are not members of the Single Market, but they sell successfully to the EUThey are not members of the EEA or EFTA, but they sell successfully to the EUThey have control of their borders, their money, and their laws, and yet they sell successfully to the EUAnd the only country in the top 40 with a full, ratified Free Trade Agreement is South Korea?When the UK leaves the EU, it will become the 2nd-biggest buyer of EU goods in the WorldThe UK market is vital to the EU27It's almost as large as the USA and is far more important to the EU27 than China.Leaving the Customs Union, the trade-weighted average EU tariff for non-agricultural products is only 2.8%. Only 8.7% for agricultural products.Click chart to enlarge - © Brexit Facts4EU.OrgOver 85% of sales into the EU in 2018 came from countries with no membership of the Customs Union, no membership of the Single Market, EEA, EFTA, or anything else which Remain MPs might be able to think of.The EU Customs Union doesn't work for the UK.Let's join the 179 non-EU states which simply don't need it.Want to see all factsheets in this series? Click here!OBSERVATIONSOnce again Brexit Facts4EU.Org has summarised the results of our years of research and articles into a simple one-pager for the public and for MPs. And once again this factsheet has been endorsed by nine major Brexit organisations, including us.By the very nature of a one-pager it is impossible to include all the facts we have published over the past few years. In common with the other factsheets in this series we have looked at facts which we believe are of most interest.As ever, Remainer MPs and campaigners will say "Oh but what about xyz?" Our response is simple. First, answer the abc's.This is the eighth in the Brexit Fightback Initiative series and we desperately need to get the rest completed

[alphorn] 20/10/2019 17:46

A PM who has escaped from the kindergarten is ok for you? Lol

[cheshire pete] 20/10/2019 17:31

Alphorn:...."I have issues with"....you sound like a snowflake lol.

[excell1] 20/10/2019 17:16

Forget about amendments, letters to the EU,2nd,3rd referendums etc. It just boils down to THE referendum. The majority voted to leave, no deal was mentioned so just leave. If we want a Common Market with free trade after that then so be it but forget the political interreference from the EU.
The establishment will take some beating but it can and will be done. The people have spoken, now implement it.

[alphorn] 20/10/2019 17:10

If this is the here and now just think how free and easy is going to look in the future:

[excell1] 20/10/2019 16:40

Well if Harry & Megan are fed up and wish to move to another country then go with our blessing. However forget the annual gravy train money you now receive.

[minerve 2] 20/10/2019 16:38

I couldn't care less about foreign income because of the Queen. We should be living more in a meritocracy, not Lucky Sperm Club.

[minerve 2] 20/10/2019 16:37

"She does however bring a lot of money into this Country"

Evidence?

UK's most popular tourist attraction has been The Eden Project. Nothing to do with the family of parasites.

[bbalanjones] 20/10/2019 16:26

Black Beauty: A Recovering Quadruped - Offical.

5xy nominated as this Boards prime OCD poster.

[xxxxxy] 20/10/2019 16:16

REVOLUTION.

Fight the QUISLINGS.

TURF them out at elections.

Your Votes are you Bullets to remove the con and Labour party of QUISLINGS.

The Will of The People was and is to LEAVE.

This has become The Parliament versus The People.

Many MPs are there by lying and deceiving and disrespecting The People.

LEAVE and WTO

[xxxxxy] 20/10/2019 16:12

Let's LEAVE the EUSSR.

And push and vote the wicked betraying MPs OUT of parliament.

Parliament as it is impotent and frightened and BETRAYING the British People.

LEAVE and WTO

[jordaggy] 20/10/2019 15:58

£ did well Friday, forgive yourselves for calling this wrong... Fx traders usually call it correctly _ did anyone know this Letwin amendment was being tabled?

[xxxxxy] 20/10/2019 15:57

17+ MILLION VOTED TO LEAVE

17 million is a big political movement and has significant purchasing power. Time to start to think about using this.

And there are Dutch bulbs to think about. Dutch Tulips
REALLY THINK HARD BEFORE BUYING ANYTHING from EUSSR
Spanish holiday. Irish holiday. French wine. Belgian chocolate. Think. Etc

The People, at least 17 million can act as well as Parliament.

People. Gloves off. Time to BOYCOTT the EU. The Elite have crushed and twisted and swindled our Democracy. But the People have teeth too and it is time to bare them,

The 'Withdrawal Agreement' cobbled together by May and a two-faced Conservative Party is now no more – is it? Trying to fob off the The Referendum Result and sell this 'agreement' with Fear.

But in effect it is REMAIN all dressed up in new clothing and method. This will never be harmonious, and now may be the time to consider various campaigns such as whether to buy German cars for example.

17 million voted against staying in the EU. That is a lot of buying power. Think before buy now.

Campaign. The politicians have not listened. The Economic War. THE PEOPLE RULE OK!

German cars and apes


German cars unfinished business


And there is the consideration of Continental European wine. Many fine and exciting wines found outside Europe.

Millions of songbirds vacuumed to death every year during Mediterranean olive harvest




The EUSSR has stated publicly it wants to HURT the UK. We too can HURT the EUSSR too, particularly Germany and Vichy France. Spanish holiday. Irish holiday. French wine. Belgian chocolate. Think.


The People can vote and not be listened to. BUT THE PEOPLE CAN ACT . Think before buying from the EUSSR

Pass it on. BOYCOTT the EUSSR. Tusck wants us to go to Hell - the very Gestapo and Mafia thinking that still lies at the heart of the EUSSR

Pass it on. Thank-you

The EUSSR have effectively made it a Cold War with the UK.

Boycott the goods and product of the EUSSR.

LEAVE and WTO

[minerve 2] 20/10/2019 15:45

Among other things the whole Brexit mess has exposed is the complete uselessness of an honorary head of state who pretends to be relevant but is in fact utterly pointless. Governments run amok trampling the institutions and norms established which the head of state is supposed to uphold. She has done none of this. Rather her solitary goal seems to be to avoid doing anything, preserve her families privileged position, deflect poisonous scandals among her children and in doing all this has let her country down. Worse she is the queen of Scotland as well as England. The Scots could reasonably have assumed their head of state might have weighed in on their interests. It is clear she is the Queen of England and has done a dismal job at that limited role. The monarchy should be the first casualty of the post Brexit reforms likely to be needed to facilitate reentry into the EU.

[xxxxxy] 20/10/2019 15:37

Do not forget

Just to concentrate minds.
SO let's LEAVE and WTO.

2011 - Cadbury moved to Poland with EU grant.

2011 - Ford Transit moved to Turkey with EU grant.

Jaguar Landrover new plant in Slovakia with EU grant, sold to Volkeswagen last week.

Peugeot closed Ryton plant (was Rootes Group) moved production to Slovakia.

British Army's new Ajax armed vehicles to be built in Spain using Swedish steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU grant instead of Wales.

Dyson goes to Malaysia with an EU grant.

Crown Closures Bournemouth (was Metal Box) gone to Poland with EU grant. Once employed 1,200.

M&S manufacturing gone to FE with EU loan.

Hornby Models gone. All toys and models gone from UK with patents… all with EU grants.

Gillette gone to E. Europe with EU grant.

Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany with EU grant.

Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU grant.

Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil foam plant will relocate to Roemond Netherlands with EU funding.

Hoover Merthyr Tydfil factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company, Candy with EU backing.

ICI integration into Holland's Akzo Nobel with EU bank loan. Within days of the merger, several UK factories were closed eliminating 3,500 jobs.

Boots sold to Italian Stefano Pessina who've based their HQ in Switzerland to avoid tax to the tune of £80 million a year using an EU loan for the purchase. Now issued profit warning last week.

JDS Uniphase run by two Dutchmen who bought up companies in the UK with £20 million EU 'regeneration grants', created a pollution nightmare and just closed it all down leaving 1,200 out of work and an environmental clean up paid by the UK taxpayer. They also raided the pension fund and drained it dry.

UK airports owned by Spanish company.

Scottish Power owned by Spanish company.

Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies (Deutschebarn).

Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by EDF (Energie de France) part owned by French Govt. using cheap Chinese steel which has catastrophically failed at other nuclear installations. EDF now says the costs will double and it will be very late if it even does come online.

Swindon once made rail locomotives and rolling stock. All transferred to Bombardier in Derby due to their losses in the aviation market will see the end railway manufacture altogether. Bombadier got a grant to keep going in Derby, but diverted it to their loss-making aviation site in Canada.

39% British invention patents have been passed to foreign companies mostly in the EU.

Mini cars are built by BMW in Holland and Austria.

Fans outrage as foreign firm Nestle shrinks Terry's Chocolate Oranges by 10% but price remains the same.

And the last is the destruction of our steel industry. We invented the process in 1856, before Henry Bressemer everything was made of cast iron or bronze/copper! British Steel's receivership loses 25,000 jobs. Makes us dependent on poor quality imports (see above Hinkley Point C) with the knock on effects to manufacturing.

LEAVE and WTO

[minerve 2] 20/10/2019 15:33

There will be no benefits for any Brexiters on this thread. They are the muppets who will be fully exploited by the far-right plutocrats.

Enjoy!

[alphorn] 20/10/2019 15:31

Jacko - I expect the transition period to start soon (I think that you know my position). This could be a long standstill period that IMO will not provide any domestic benefits other than emotionally (for some) moving forwards. I do not believe that any tangible benefits will show for many years to come. I am prepared to eat my words! On the investment side I can go long or short as necessary.

I believe that there will be no winners if you strip out the emotions.