Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[jacko07] 02/1/2019 21:53

After the USA and France, the UK are Germany's third largest customer. Just have a long hard think about that. Trump says he will put extra tariffs on German imports and he will expect them to pay more to NATO.

Russia supply 70% of Germany's energy and Putin wants to break the EU. Germany have had a pretty good ride up to now. My point is, Europe are playing with fire, they need us, they need our £39 billion. If we had a Government with a set of balls, they would be giving Europe an ultimatum, deal or we go it alone with £39 billion as a starter.

[xxxxxy] 02/1/2019 21:47

LEAVE and WTO


Nos da

[xxxxxy] 02/1/2019 21:46

Ove Boy 2 Jan 2019 8:59PM
Greek bankrupt, Italy going the same way, Eastern European countries net recipients of EU cash. If they don't get our £39b the EU budget will be decimated and propped up by the Germans and French, and lets be honest the frogs are heading for financial trouble. Get away from these losers now!

[cheshire pete] 02/1/2019 21:45

All lefties xxxxxy poor judgement and not to be trusted imho.

[careful] 02/1/2019 21:45

In time you will realise what is going on here.
It is the rivalry between 2 huge trading blocks of $20 trillion GDP.

America vs Europe.

We have influence in the EU.
but Brexiteers are just choosing a new master to grovel to, the USA, that is all.

[xxxxxy] 02/1/2019 21:40

Chris Cottrell 2 Jan 2019 9:29PM
Thank heavens we did not join the euro, the most dysfunctional currency ever.

Leaving the coercive, punitive, anti-democratic EU would be vastly more difficult if we had.

Its worth remembering that the BBC, FT and Economist wanted the UK to join the euro at the time; how wrong they were.

[careful] 02/1/2019 21:39

Talking about the health of weak German and Italian banks when the whole system worldwide during the 2008 financial crisis was baled out with trillions in financial aid is a ridiculous argument.

Have you forgotten or do you not understand?

xxxxxy is what you call almost intelligent.
Then he talks about bank bailouts, and has already forgotten about RBS, Bear Stearns, Northern Rock, Lehman, Goldman and just about every other bank or financial institution.

They feed you this one sided garbage hoping that you will not understand that the financial crisis in 2008 was caused in America, and we are all still suffering.

[xxxxxy] 02/1/2019 21:14

Chris Cottrell 2 Jan 2019 9:11PM
Euro achievements:

Finally, shattered banks. You might think the euro-zone’s strongest economy would have strong banks. Think again. Shares in Germany’s Deutsche Bank have fallen by 90 per cent in the last decade, and just before Christmas it had to deny it would need a bail-out (which is the banking equivalent of having ‘complete faith in the manager’ of a football team). Meanwhile, the Italian banks limp from crisis to crisis and so do the Greek ones as a half-built currency destroys the profitability of an industry that should be one of the foundations of a prosperous economy.

Mathew Lynn

[cheshire pete] 02/1/2019 20:54

Spent my life taking risks careful. Not going to stop now.
The FT says, BBC, economists, think tanks, institute for fiscal studies can say what they like. Mostly left wing remainers intent on frustrating Brexit imho.
The pound falling will make our manufactured exports more competitive using up materials in hand.
Why take the risk....UK has a great future when we unshackle ourselves from the EU, that's why.

[bargainbob] 02/1/2019 20:43

That's why EFTA the route to go xxxxy.

[poleaxe] 02/1/2019 20:43

We have had only one prime minister with balls since WW2 and that was a woman.

[careful] 02/1/2019 20:41

Cheshire
I see that the FT today are saying that a compromise deal or even a hard Brexit will both be bad for the UK.
Hard Brexit without paying our financial obligations will be declaring economic war against Europe.
We are used to being at war with Europe, but it will get nasty.

I think if someone told you Brexiteers not to drink cyanid you would say 'project scare'.

The £ has already fallen since the vote, and a hard Brexit will cause serious problems in the markets.
Money markets are ruthless and more important than people realise.

If you and your family suffer from Brexit, with financial worry bringing misery, ill heath, family break ups, then I hope you are prepared for it.

Why take the risk?

[xxxxxy] 02/1/2019 20:34

JOHN KORWIN-SZYMANOWSKI 2 Jan 2019 8:29PM
After Greece, we now have the 'too big to fail' Italian 'doom loop' banks. Any Italian reading this who has not done so,should take their money out , before the government does 'a Cyprus' bail in and confiscates it, and put it in to German/ Dutch banks rather than Club Med French (who incidentally are the Italian banks largest creditors') or Spanish/Portuguese banks.

And politicians in this country have the gall to say that a 'no deal' Brexit has too many unknowns than remaining in the EU?

Over the next 15-20 years what will the EU look like? a European army? harmonised EU tax rates (after monetary union , fiscal union looks very likely and is even being proposed by Macron? Compulsory membership of the Euro -(Scots please note that joining the EU will entail joining the Euro).

[cheshire pete] 02/1/2019 20:26

The solution is simple careful: LEAVE no deal and WTO. Any hardship gets paid out of the £39 billion we won't be paying EU. Could also use tax credits, Govt. loans but prefer to perpetuate the no deal = disaster myth instead. We leave no deal watch the EU scramble to do deals once we've had the courage to call their bluff. Need more politicians with some bottle and vision.

[excell1] 02/1/2019 20:21

You have been hoodwinked careful.Wake up man.

[jpjohn1] 02/1/2019 20:12

Same view cheshire. I gave her the benefit of doubt at first, she was a remainer and still is but trying to fool everybody she wants to leave

[cheshire pete] 02/1/2019 19:47

Cos she's a remainer at heart Poikka. At first I gave her the benefit of the doubt and put it down to naivety and incompetence coupled with never having had to think forward previously. Now I believe her intent is to keep us as closely aligned with the EU as possible and try to kid us that that is true Brexit. Won't work though...no deal, LEAVE and WTO.

[poikka] 02/1/2019 19:38

Corpbull extract.

""With Britain entirely in charge of everything, all it had to do was to decide the kind of future relationship that it’d want with the EU and offer it to them on a take it or leave it basis given that Europe has always needed Britain far more than Britain has needed Europe.

"One of the world’s great countries can’t decide whether it’s in or out of the European Union, whether it accepts or rejects a democratic vote to leave and whether it can or cannot work out a credible way forward.

"This whole shambles shows what happens when the people in charge don’t believe in what they are supposedly trying to do.""

That was so kinda fuggin obvious, why the fugg didn't she do it? Is she daft? Does she just want to wreck Brexit? Is she just too complicated? Being a woman does she just like talking? I continue to puzzle over her motives. I wish someone had the balls to call her out.

[cheshire pete] 02/1/2019 19:29

Minerve, would sooner have Jacko as PM than May or your hero Blair.

[ekuuleus] 02/1/2019 18:19

Yup the bank is constantly raising money (to pay staff) from the market.

[k38] 02/1/2019 18:02

Closings brunches eventually will kill cash transactions. Not good news for ordinary and cash lovers people.

[gotnorolex] 02/1/2019 16:56

Lloyds also closing down busy branches in central London because they don't like handling or changing the physical stuff! Refuse to bank contents of charity boxes and invite souvenir shop owners to attend their digital workshops!

[xxxxxy] 02/1/2019 16:44

LEAVE and WTO