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[jordaggy] 25/6/2024 11:23

H1, for how long? Putin thinks otherwise and knowing how the west reneges on agreements who can blame his scepticism. Face it, the US wants Russia destroyed, it always has and won't stop, Russia is facing an existential threat and will act accordingly. Some commentators say WWIII has already started...God help us.

[utrickytrees] 25/6/2024 11:05

Hardup, the US are easy to be critical of because they are so hypocritical. No point in being critical of Russia when they don't masquerade as something they ain't.

[jordaggy] 25/6/2024 11:01

Capital Economics say:

The next government, which the polls ahead of the election on 4th July suggest will be a Labour one, will benefit from a combination of lower inflation, lower interest rates and faster economic growth than most are expecting.
We think that a fall in CPI inflation from 2.0% in May to around 1.5% by the end of this year will prompt the Bank of England to cut interest rates from 5.25% to 3.00% next year, rather than to 4.00% as investors expect. And the boost to activity from lower inflation and interest rates explains why we are more optimistic than most by expecting the economy to grow by 1.0% this year and 1.5% in both 2025 and 2026.
While tax revenues and public spending may both be a bit higher under a Labour government, the economy will probably tread a similar path over the next couple of years.

[jordaggy] 25/6/2024 10:45

Reagan and Gorbachev made an agreement back in the day and it held for many years...'NATO not to move forward towards Moscow', putting nukes in Ukraine close to the Russian border is understandably never going to happen as far as Putin is concerned. However, twas always the plan...and after the deceit of the Minsk agreement on the part of Merkel, Russia will never trust the west again. You have to ask why the neocons hate Russia so much. I've met many Russians in Thailand, always polite, respectful, but a tad dull.

[hardup1] 25/6/2024 10:31

Tricky...395207. "Being anti US doesn't make someone pro Russia...they're both as bad as each other" But the focus of your bias narrative is all anti US, which some will interpret as also being sympathetic to/pro Russia.

[mikemichael2] 25/6/2024 09:56

So did they get 'our' money back??

[jordaggy] 25/6/2024 09:56

The Republicans are fully behind Israel's ongoing slaughter.

[utrickytrees] 25/6/2024 09:49

Being anti US doesn't make someone pro Russia...theyre both as bad as each other. LB's correct though. there is a growing number of people critical of US foreign policy....theyre known as Republicans.

[xxxxxy] 25/6/2024 09:40

Idiot....Putin wants Empire...any excuse will do.

[xxxxxy] 25/6/2024 09:39

Made in Russia. LiesMade in Russia. TerrorismMade in Russia. MurderMade in Russia. TortureMade in Russia. MenaceMade in Russia. WAR CRIMESThe list goes on, and isn't over until Putin and his Gangsters are in the Hague Court.Get Real about Russia...Putin wants Empire and used any political chess moves to invadeUkraine. A Reform Government must support Ukraine until Russia has left Ukraine. Me I've voted for Reform.

[hardup1] 25/6/2024 09:15

mr.elbee......It is an official United Nations Memorandum that the US, UK, Russia and Ukraine all signed up to. Would any of the signatories to this have signed it if they found it in any way ignorant, unfair and ill-informed? I suggest that it is you, tricky and jordaggy who are ignorant and ill-informed with your incessant anti US pro Russia bias.

[mr.elbee] 25/6/2024 09:05

Rubbish ... selective use of history ignorant unfair and illinformed

But I dont expect much else now.

[hardup1] 25/6/2024 08:29

Russia are clearly the aggressors and are in breech of the UN 1994 Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances, which they signed up to along with the UK, the US and Ukraine, which guaranteed the security of Ukraine.

"Ukraine, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America,

Confirm the following:

1. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine;

2. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations;

3. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind;

4. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used;

5. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm, in the case of Ukraine, their commitment not to use nuclear weapons against any non-nuclearweapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, except in the case of an attack on themselves, their territories or dependent territories, their armed forces, or their allies, by such a State in association or alliance with a nuclear-weapon State;

6. Ukraine, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America will consult in the event a situation arises that raises a question concerning these commitments.

This Memorandum will become applicable upon signature.

Signed in four copies having equal validity in the Ukrainian, English and Russian languages.

[diku] 25/6/2024 07:22

In democracy you get 2 tier results...when you get 2 tier results you get splits...when you have splits you get conflicts within which leads to no outcomes...and round we go in a circle...

[mr.elbee] 25/6/2024 07:19

the best solution is NOT what Biden ,Sunak and the neo-cons want.

Government now doesnt do "best solutions"

[scruff1] 25/6/2024 07:14

AS someone pointed out - why do we need politicians or a government at all as everything they decide gets overturned by self serving shyster lawyers or obstructed by ideology driven unelected shyster civil servants.

Seems to me the best solution is an autonomous and demilitarized Donbas. Gonna have to stop bashing each other at some point so may as well do it before another zillion get killed. Then the Yanks can get on with the re building. No doubt the Germans and the French will be second and third in line for the contracts and the Brits get the job of holding their coats and bragging about how we defended freedom and democracy.

[diku] 25/6/2024 06:59

Perception out there who ever wins not going make any difference...like saying what is purpose of having elections...how come no election protest march...we seem to have protest march for every thing else...

[utrickytrees] 25/6/2024 06:57

Tbf I'll admit to not knowing much about the 2014 Ukraine election,what I do know is Poroshnko was a media oligarch with his own TV channels, and since the Russian invasion approx 600k Ukrainians have left the Donbas & over 2M remain. Read into that what you will.

[scruff1] 25/6/2024 06:49

BargainS
Scroats and freeloaders everywhere pray for a labour victory. The polls seem to suggest that there are plenty of em. If the Workers Party of GB renamed itself more appropriately and honestly as the Benefit Claimants Party of GB it could win by a landslide.

M2
Did you succumb to the heat yesterday or did you survive by following all the advice the various wet farts and busybodies felt it necessary to spew out by the shed load?