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[geckotheglorious] 26/6/2024 05:25

Utrick

Good to see Assange finally released yes.

[jordaggy] 26/6/2024 01:07

Trump dropped the fewest bombs and started no wars, Obama dropped more bombs than any other US president. Doesn't really matter who wins the US election, AIPAC, the military industrial machine and the Zionist will see that the agenda continues...

[diku] 25/6/2024 19:18

If Trump wins election he could force Zelensky to negotiating table because Trump will want the War to end under his watch to take the credit...look the normal Politicians couldn't sort it for nearly 3 years but he has...in the process Trump will probably do a side deal with Putin...invite Putin for state visit to US or Trump goes to Russia...

[geckotheglorious] 25/6/2024 18:00

hardup1
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GTG......"because he doesn't trust NATO and I don't blame him"


So why have most of the ex Soviet Bloc countries joined or applied to join NATO? Because they don't trust Putin. And I don't blame them.

Cos the Soviet blocks want protection for nothing???

Don't blame them either!

Can't trust either side tbh

Old cynic that I am

[hardup1] 25/6/2024 17:27

IMO Putin is waiting for the outcome of the US Presidential Election thinking if Trump wins he will pull the rug from under Zelenskyy's feet and withdraw US funding/support for Ukraine. That would totally change the dynamics and force Zelenskyy to the negotiating table where Putin will hold all the aces and dictate the terms of any agreement.

[hardup1] 25/6/2024 16:51

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[scruff1] 25/6/2024 16:40

That's unlikely imo. An autonomous donbass is the only thing I can see them both agreeing to. But I know FA.

[stonedyou] 25/6/2024 15:13

Ukraine’s 2014 coup was CIA’s political mistake — Putin

The Russian president noted that the US agency had achieved its goal of changing the government but failed to see what it would evolve into

MOSCOW, February 9. /TASS/. The 2014 coup d’etat in Ukraine was orchestrated with the support of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and became the US agency’s political mistake, Russian President Vladimir Putin said in an interview with Tucker Carlson published on the US journalist’s website.

Putin said that during the unrest, which broke out in Kiev in the winter of 2014, the United States asked him: "calm Yanukovich down and we will calm the opposition. Let the situation unfold in the scenario of a political settlement."

"We said, all right, agreed, let's do it this way. As the Americans requested, Yanukovich did use neither the armed forces nor the police. Yet the armed opposition committed a coup in Kiev," the Russian leader continued.

The coup was orchestrated "with the backing of CIA, of course," he added.

"Technically, they did everything right. They achieved their goal of changing the government," Putin said. "However, from political standpoint, it was a colossal mistake. Surely it was political leadership's miscalculation. They should have seen what it would evolve into."

"I think one of the deputy secretaries of state said that they cost a large sum of money. Almost 5 billion," he added. "All this could have been done legally, without victims, without military action <…> We would have never considered to even lift the finger if it hadn't been for the bloody developments on Maidan.

The political crisis that broke out in Ukraine in November 2013 later became known as Euromaidan. Large-scale opposition protests quickly turned into violent riots. The political crisis led to a state coup in Ukraine and the country’s partial disintegration in the winter of 2014. Residents of Crimea voted to secede from Ukraine and reunify with Russia in a referendum. Also, an armed conflict with Ukrainian nationalists broke out in the regions of Donetsk and Lugansk, prompting their inhabitants to eventually proclaim independence and join Russia after referendums in 2022.

[utrickytrees] 25/6/2024 14:56

MM2, who knows with Putin, perhaps the rest if the UKR would become an oblast if he took it, I can see him obviously retaining donbas because of its Russian ethnicty mineral wealth & strategic importance. Everything else is secondary.

[mikemichael2] 25/6/2024 14:10

tricky, what about the border between Poland and Ukraine if Russia wins?

[jordaggy] 25/6/2024 13:19

GNR, I urge you to watch Judge Napolitano on YouTube. You'll begin to make sense of it.

[hardup1] 25/6/2024 13:17

GTG......"because he doesn't trust NATO and I don't blame him"
So why have most of the ex Soviet Bloc countries joined or applied to join NATO? Because they don't trust Putin. And I don't blame them.

[gotnorolex] 25/6/2024 13:08

220 What then is your claptrap on the disagreement!

[geckotheglorious] 25/6/2024 12:57

Utrick
post 395215
Absolutely agree. It's nuts.


hardup1
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jordaggy......NATO's remit is to defend members ONLY if attacked by a non NATO country. Putin knows this so one has to ask why he doe's not want countries bordering Russia to be NATO members if his intention is only to be a peaceful neighbour?

because he doesn't trust NATO and I don't blame him

[jordaggy] 25/6/2024 12:38

Nonsense ...

[gotnorolex] 25/6/2024 12:29

The Minsk Agreement signed and sealed (never delivered) by Putin guaranteed Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, by withdrawing all troops from the districts of Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts, in exchange for the lifting of sanctions! Putin instead invaded Ukraine, held Germany in particular to ransom by quadrupling the price of gas and oil........Can't for one moment see why UK citizens on this board sitting comfortably, side with that despot!
The USA is still the most successful capitalist democracy on earth, baring a Trump catastrophe!

[jordaggy] 25/6/2024 12:27

H1, 53 more countries have applied to join BRICS. They understand the US hegemonic objective and have voted with their sovereignty. A lot of pain heading back to the US too as no one is buying their treasuries...oh dear, Saudi Arabia is ditching the petro dollar and will also (maybe) join BRICS. Weaponising the dollar in the form of sanctions has worried many nations...a big mistake.

Tricky, I wouldn't worry. The NATO alliance does not force nato members to take up arms against a nation that attacks a nato member, it's merely a strategic framework and has no legal obligation on other nato countries.

[careful] 25/6/2024 11:48

Similarities to the Cuban Missile crisis.

First the sponsored coup in Cuba supported by Russia to install Castro.
(The coup inUkraine in 2014 was western financed)

The Russians then start to install short range missiles in Cuba.
America, Kennedy, said no and blockaded Cuba.

A scary time, luckily we had a great leader in Kennedy who struck s deal with Khrushchev, (apparently they got on well) and both worried about controlling their military.

Kennedy agreed to remove hundreds of shorter range nukes from Turkey and Italy in exchagesfor Russia not putting short range nukes in Cuba.

The important point is that America will never tolerate a situation where their strategic military safety close to USA borders was ever compromised.

[hardup1] 25/6/2024 11:45

jordaggy......NATO's remit is to defend members ONLY if attacked by a non NATO country. Putin knows this so one has to ask why he doe's not want countries bordering Russia to be NATO members if his intention is only to be a peaceful neighbour? And why do all of the old Soviet bloc countries want to join NATO? Who do they see as a threat to their security by not being in NATO?

[utrickytrees] 25/6/2024 11:37

Jordaggy call me thick but I can't see how it's in the best interests for global security to have a nato member who's border with Russia is over 1200 miles long? I don't know what the Americans are thinking... theyre either thick like me or fkin insane!