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[xxxxxy] 25/7/2020 16:22

Let the Elite wear condoms over their heads.... jn foster25 Jul 2020 11:46AMThis virus is so harmless thats its almost benign The commom cold kills 2 million children pa worldwide every year, this insane  hysteria must stop, Sacking Whitty Vallance and SAGE would be a good start. I think a key public health  requirement would be to require ell members of the House of Lords to wear a condom over their heads starting with Lord Bethell and Baroness McIntosh of Pickering.... Daily Telegraph

[freddie01] 25/7/2020 16:16

Retail sales near pre-lockdown levels in June

BBC

[xxxxxy] 25/7/2020 16:13

Daley Bugle25 Jul 2020 12:19PM@Captain SensibleCorrect. And of course the elephant in the room - Sweden. No Lockdown, no Facemasks, Covid in decline and economy not anywhere near as damaged as ours.Angry of Herefordshire25 Jul 2020 12:29PM@Daley Bugle @Captain Sensible And their ruling elite are not therefore viewed with contempt by millions.

[poikka] 25/7/2020 16:06

The longer we allow the French to continue letting migrants make the journey across the English Channel, the worse the situation will become.

Word soon gets back to Africa, Middle East and Asian sub-continent, and the flow from those countries will become a flood, and 31st December will make no difference.

We've just got to tow those boats back into EU waters, preferably beach them and burn them on French beaches.

[poikka] 25/7/2020 16:02

Alphorn - "What a skewed vision you have got.

YOU have a fixation on a vote in 2016. YOU have no vision about the future post 01/01/21. YOU misread the impact on the domestic economy and sterling following the uncertainty.

Now, move forwards and stop looking in the rear view mirror. What IYO is going to happen in the future? I am relatively optimistic at this point and maybe the only one here."

You've missed the point entirely, and I've obviously hit a raw nerve - guilty?

"No vision about the future"? Where tf did you read that?

And I'll do what I like, ok? You don't tell me anything, especially from Switzerland, or wherever you hide.

Optimistic, are you? You've changed your colours yet again, but whatever.

[bargainbob] 25/7/2020 16:02

Dedicated To all hobbits in Little England from the wee dug.

Well there's a surprise, if you define 'suprise' as being something that you could see coming from a mile away and were entirely expecting. The Conservative government of the performance artiste known as Boris Johnson has refused the official request from the Scottish Government for extra borrowing powers in order to help the Scottish economy recover from the effects of the pandemic.

On a flying visit to Edinburgh Steve Barclay, the Chief Secretary to the Treasury, officially turned down the request from Scottish Finance Secretary Kate Forbes which had been made a few weeks ago. There's another example of Conservative politicians that Scotland didn't vote for dropping into Scotland to tell us that we can't be trusted with grown up things. The Tories are ensuring that Scotland is to be kept dependent on the UK treasury so that they can tell us that Scotland couldn't cope with independence because we're dependent upon the UK treasury.

Telling Scotland that independence means we'd be a fiscal basket case is after all the sole remaining argument that the British nationalists have got left, so it's scarcely surprising that the Conservatives don't wish to allow Scotland the ability to exercise even a limited degree of fiscal independence within the UK. Essentially the argument of British nationalism that Scotland depends financially on the British Government is not an argument about money, it's an argument about power. Naturally a Scotland which is a part of a UK where the UK Treasury jealously guards all the purse strings and ensures that Scotland must rely upon what it pleases Westminster to call a block grant is a Scotland which relies on the UK financially. That's how it's designed to work. It's a bit like yer maw demanding that you hand over your pay packet and doling out whatever she fits to you, and then telling you that you can't leave home because you're financially dependent on her. The difference is that yer maw probably loves you and has your best interests at heart. The only interests that the Tories take to heart are their own.

We're going to see a lot more of this sort of thing over the coming months as the British Government attempts to respond to the new reality of a Scotland where there are regular and consistent majorities for independence. It's likely that support for independence is only going to grow after December when the UK exits the EU transitional period and the reality of Brexit is properly felt. The Tories, and British nationalism in general, have no answer to the rise in support for Scottish independence. They only have some short term tactics. And in many cases their tactics are not remotely convincing.

Just think of all those people you know who saw that photo of Johnson standing on the quayside at Stromness holding two crabs and thought, "Well that's me convinced. It's the UK for me." Although it's fair to say that his trip convinced a lot of people of something. Just not what Johnson was hoping for. It was a trip carried out by a Downing Street which doesn't have the foggiest notion of how it's perceived in Scotland, and more importantly, doesn't care.

The notable thing here is that it's not as if the Conservatives couldn't have foreseen what was going to happen in Scotland if they pursued a hard line Brexit without taking a Scotland where a substantial majority voted to remain into account. Scotland voted to remain in the EU by a much larger margin than it voted against independence - in an independence referendum campaign where the issue of staying in the EU was one of the most salient debating points. The Tories knew what the response in Scotland was going to be. They just didn't care. They had already decided that they were going to employ their English majority to ram through whatever they wanted and force the rest of the UK to comply. And then they have the utter gall to preach about a union.

A union is not sustainable when one member is larger than all the others combined and the ruling party doesn't even think it need to make even a pretence of consulting the smaller member nations and keeping them on board. The so-called union was not sustainable in the long term when there was a solid bloc of 45% of Scottish voters who were determined to seek independence. It's even less sustainable now that that 45% is 54% - and likely to rise even higher. The long standing trope of British nationalism that their union is founded upon consent and the voluntary membership of its constituent parts will be tested to destruction. The Conservatives could get away with arguing that Scotland's membership of the UK was voluntary while at the same time refusing another referendum while only a minory, albeit a large minority, of the Scottish electorate supported independence. It's a very different matter now that a majority of Scotland's voters want independence. The problem for the Conservatives is that the longer they try to defy the will of a majority of the people of Scotland the more people in Scotland will come to the conclusion that the Tories are lying about the nature of this so-called union and will move to support independence as a result. The Tories' own delaying tactic of refusing a referendum merely makes it all the more likely that Scotland's support for the UK will wither and die.

Meanwhile Layla Moran, no I hadn't heard of her either, is one of the leadership contenders for the Lib Dems. Yes, the Lib Dems are still a thing. Anyway, Layla wants to make an "emotional" case for keeping Scotland in the UK. Although you could be forgiven for thinking that was what we were already getting, what with the temper tantrums of being told that we'd be nothing without Westminster alternating with unconvincing pleas that we're loved and wanted.

That's all that the British nationalists have got left, denying democracy and making the kind of emotional romantic pleas that they once accused independence supporters of peddling. But despite their best efforts, more and more the veil is falling from Scotland's eyes and we are seeing this UK for what it really is, a massive con trick. This isn't a union at all. It's a hostile take-over by the Conservatives.

[utrickytrees] 25/7/2020 15:35

Actually no black MEP's in EU, Europe hate Black people & Africans, as outlined here. Must watch.

[alphorn] 25/7/2020 13:37

G2 - I have no answers either. Something has to be done though.

[scruff1] 25/7/2020 13:25

diku
there was little gap down at the opening. Finished well below that

[grahamite2] 25/7/2020 13:23

That's totally idiotic. It's like saying a highwayman who spares a coach is giving the passengers the money he didn't steal from them.

[minerve 2] 25/7/2020 13:17

Just put whatever label you want on it and the gammons buy it.

[minerve 2] 25/7/2020 13:16

You could say ISAs are a form of aid. A tax gift from the kids to the old farts who already have taken a disproportionate amount of handouts from the government.

[bbalanjones] 25/7/2020 12:04

Aid, some stats . . . .

Who gives the most aid to Africa?
According to the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development's (OECD) report, in 2016, 30 countries in Development Assistance Committee (DAC) contributed a total of $142.6 billion as financial assistance to poorer countries, with the United States, Germany, the United Kingdom, Japan and France giving the most.

[grahamite2] 25/7/2020 11:42

Alphorn, I don't have any good answers here. The Chinese one baby policy was a signal failure, even with the persuasive methods available to a tyranny; but the population forecast I'm talking about suggests that the Chinese population will halve. Who knows what will work?

What surely is beyond argument is that the prospect of the population of Nigeria alone - which was about 30m in 1950 - reaching 800m is a daunting one.

[alphorn] 25/7/2020 11:31

"Doing their level best to alter the results of fairly held elections, and you can see that on this site".

What a skewed vision you have got.

YOU have a fixation on a vote in 2016. YOU have no vision about the future post 01/01/21. YOU misread the impact on the domestic economy and sterling following the uncertainty.

Now, move forwards and stop looking in the rear view mirror. What IYO is going to happen in the future? I am relatively optimistic at this point and maybe the only one here.

[alphorn] 25/7/2020 11:21

G2/M2 - The African (and others) situation is a conundrum.

Do you support the poverty or another solution? Those babies and children did not ask to come into this world. No easy answer, doing nothing and letting nature sort itself out is probably not the solution, neither is widespread sterilisation.

[minerve 2] 25/7/2020 11:19

The little hobbit from Derby is funny.

[minerve 2] 25/7/2020 11:07

"Had a quick look in here, didn't take long"

Yes, a quick look doesn't take long. LOL

Tell me when it takes a long time!

ROFLMAO!