Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[azalea] 06/6/2020 10:06

maxk
The quote did not originate with Barnier, it belongs unequivocally to Theresa May.
Barnier talks of a 'level playing field' does that mean his new masters will agree to match EU and UK exports to each other; despite the EU, currently enjoying a surplus of billions of euros? Like hell they will.

Barnier facetiously reminded the UK government and others, that the political declaration was reproduced in several languages -including English. He should be reminded that the document was not a legally binding document, only the Withdrawal Agreement had it been passed in the UK parliament, would have been legally binding: thank heavens it was rejected by parliament, three times.
Boris has staked his premiership on there being no 'extension'. If he fails in taking the UK out of the EU with no strings attached, he could face the same fate. Everything about Boris says he will deliver on his political promises to at least 17.4 million people.

[freddie01] 06/6/2020 09:41

Nothing to do with Brexit I'm afraid. They do hate the Government and Police but it's more about their self-entitlement.

[poikka] 06/6/2020 09:01

Not just "black" protesters, mm2. It's not their skin colour that determines their approach; for most of them, its their dislike of this government and Brexit and police.

Why on earth we should be exhorted to wear masks, and practice social distancing, and hygiene measures, when these baying mobs couldn't give a toss for others' lives - black or white - is a question none of them would be able to answer.

Just as well that some of us care for a respectful society, or we'd all be down with the bug, and no-one would be able to get medical care for anything.

[mikemichael2] 06/6/2020 08:35

I see there are going to be mass protests this weekend,What exactly do the black protesters want ?

[freddie01] 06/6/2020 07:36

Why has the Lloyds share price lagged the FTSE 100’s recovery?

Could the Lloyds Banking Group PLC (LON:LLOY) (LLOY.L) share price narrow the gap versus the FTSE 100 (INDEXFTSE:UKX)?

[xxxxxy] 06/6/2020 07:11

Brexit trade talks: "It's an EU knockout – Barnier reeling""We must punch through the EU's paper bag"?© Brexit Facts4EU.Org 2020Summary & analysis shows how the EU is having to retrench under the Bulldog's onslaughtYesterday marked the end of the final round of the UK-EU trade talks before the initial end-of-June deadline. As usual the end was accompanied by stalemate and with the usual and seemingly-interminable accusations from the EU's Monsieur Barnier.Below is our regular summary of the two sides' closing statements, but we start this weekend with a different perspective for readers.BREXIT FACTS4EU.ORG SUMMARYTop UK legal expert does not mince his wordsNo question of "splitting things down the middle"EU Commission's approach is "an erroneous EU thought experiment""At odds with the fundamental international law right of the self-determination of peoples""Contrary to international practice on trade agreements""An extraordinary and unprecedented suggestion - even a hostile one"Full article htTps://facts4eu.org/news/2020_jun_eu_reeling

[jl5006] 05/6/2020 23:56

Sorry 5xy
We gave up the job years ago.
If we cannot produce it economically then sadly it may be elsewhere

[buywell3] 05/6/2020 22:21

Covid-19 takes approx. 2 to 3 weeks to work its way through the human chain to become a bigger noticeable spike in cases that could force Government actions again regarding another lockdown.

In Latin America cases continue to rise alarmingly in many countries

In India likewise

In Russia , Turkey and in Iran case numbers are worryingly high

Worldwide case numbers are set to hit 7M within 4 days from now and at the rate they are rising at well over 130,000 a day now , larger daily cases than a week or say back, now look set to hit 10M by the end of june , with over 500K deaths to follow a week or two later.

The problem is that many people on mechanical ventilators have to stay in Intensive Care Units for over 4 weeks , and there were only circa 4,173 ICU beds in ICU's in the NHS as the virus hit , with corresponding numbers of ICU nurses which the NHS planned to be on a ratio of 1 to 1 , plus extra staff to cover leave, sickness and shifts .

In the USA the lockdowns have been released , social distancing was supposed to continue and wearing of masks in most states.

But social unrest / riots and looting have meant a return to old ways has come within days in many states and rising.

14 days as of now buywell expects the USA case numbers to start rising alarmingly once more .

What will Americans do when another lockdown is imposed upon them in their present mood ?

What will Trump do ? , buywell thinks nothing as he will leave it to state Governors

IF no second lockdown comes in many states , as buywell believes, then a second wave begins or in fact ADDS to the first wave which is still growing Globally and has NOT flatlined in America.

A second wave which will see much worse case numbers and deaths that has been seen to date

IMO dyor

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 22:11

Anon Anon5 Jun 2020 8:48PMYou still actually believe that a deal is a good thing for the U.K.The deficit is the proof of failure. A net £60bn deficit shows the single market has not worked for the U.K.. If that is the result of frictionless trade - why would we want that? The deficit actually hides an even worse story for the Eu as many of our exports are commodities like oil and many of our imports are luxuries like German cars. Commodities have to be bought- luxuries don't.Barriers will improve the U.K. economy as that £60bn will allow for significant substitution.On defence and intelligence: our population long since gave up the desire to be the worlds policeman. We are largely unloved in the wider world and in many parts actively disliked. Why should we be involved in places like the Middle East and the Ukraine? Europe needs the Middle East oil and Russia is simply not a threat to the U.K.So apart from our political class wanting to walk the world with a feeling of importance and some existing intrenched businesses wanting an easy ride why do we want a deal?

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 22:07

EU Survivor5 Jun 2020 10:02PMEU beginning to accept that the Uk will not ask for an extension in June... so now suggesting October!The weakness of the EU, that we have all seen cbefore, when the UK has tried to take them to the wire, is there once again... but this time Starmer, Benn, Kinnock and co will not be able to tell the EU they will stymie Parliament, and force an extension - allowing the EU to get off the hook.The UK should refuse to continue talks if the EU has not made major concessions by end of June.

[diku] 05/6/2020 22:01

Still lagging behind...should be around 40p by now...today US unemployment figures were down so Dow rallies...when are UK unemployment figures?...if they come in lower it will good for LLoy as a domestic bank...

[diku] 05/6/2020 21:54

No chance or else 100bln shares in issue...




It's a shame that divi wasn't converted into shares at the dip of the trough.

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 21:17

United Kingdom since 1 February 2020 (EU - UK FTA). If agreed, it will enter into force after the end the transitional arrangements set out in the Withdrawal Agreement. The Johnson government has set a target date of 31st December 2020 for the end of the transitional arrangements.htTps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_free_trade_agreements

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 21:14

WTO. It's coming.htTps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Organization

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 21:06

531. Strong point.China cannot be trusted with anything in /of the UK.Loss of trust. End of.

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 21:01

Don't trust China. Don't trust EUSSR.Twist and turn law. Twist and turn audits.We have left the EUSSR. Outside. Great. Stop pretending we are inside. Complete that independent sovereign BREXIT.See the world as it really is. No Deal

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 20:56

Mark BPosted June 5, 2020 at 5:30 am | PermalinkGood morningThe Chinese government signed a legally binding treaty with the UK. If it cannot be trusted to keep its word on this, then it cannot be trusted on anything.

[xxxxxy] 05/6/2020 20:54

Ian WraggPosted June 5, 2020 at 5:50 am | PermalinkChina is a pariah state and should be treated as such. Trump as usual is ahead of the game much to the annoyance of the BBC.Letting China take control of large parts of our power network and commications is an act of unbridled stupidity.Get the country working again and stop these silly games.If you don't get a handle on this cross channel ferry service you will lose all the so called red wall at the next election. Farage will se to that.

[jl5006] 05/6/2020 20:18

China
it was a loan and not a grant.
have u looked at BASF BS?

[chinahere] 05/6/2020 20:13

Mmmm. I only hope that it was a shrewd loan and we will be able to grasp the assets should they prefer to leave and take the money.

[mr.elbee] 05/6/2020 20:11

they are JEERRRRRMANS china

nuff said.

[ianood] 05/6/2020 20:09

jl5006 - To say nothing of our prepared salads being washed in chlorinated water!!

[chinahere] 05/6/2020 20:08

Just read that BASF got a £1 billion loan but they only employ around 850 people in the UK - how is that right!?

[ianood] 05/6/2020 20:05

xxxxxy - I hope you don't mind but I have copied your HSBC article to the HSBC board. All the best Ianood