Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[minerve 2] 20/4/2020 14:01

bennodean

If you don't address the long-standing issues and long-term problems you will always be fire fighting and picking up the phone.


Good luck! ;)

[alphorn] 20/4/2020 13:49

How is Branson, a non resident, the UK’s seventh richest person?


Non residents should never be bailed out - UK based companies - yes.

[gbh2] 20/4/2020 13:25

crossing, 1995 to 2010 I wouldn't touch a three day contract for less that 80K a year.

Because I'd had the chance to gain that right, after commencing work at age 15 as a shopfloor run about,in a Factory that gave me a Full Time contract, Progressive Training,Paid Holidays,Sick pay, a Decent Pay Packet, Annual increases, promotional prospects & a Final Salary Pension promise after 30 years service.

I could ask where have those jobs gone, but seeing as I ended my working life as a Boardroom Consultant I know the Cash that funded those Promising Factory jobs ended up in the Pockets of the people I was advising!

One Boardroom comment that's stuck in my gullet for 20 years, it was March 1998 when a FD announced that the Company would no longer offer Employee Training other than Basic GMP - Within 24 hours I ended my working life, the Industry that trained and Fed me had hit a new low, which I didn't want a part of.

The Industry still thrives, but the Good Jobs are no longer in this Country!

[smartypants] 20/4/2020 13:14

Any of you Dad's arm boys still have some jerrycan's at the back of the shed?
Oil is $11 a barrel...nows the time to top up your Tiger tank
They will be giving petrol away soon if you buy a scratch card and a steak pasty!

[aljm] 20/4/2020 13:13

how many Co's has Branson still got in the UK ? how much tax does he pay ? then ask how much help should the UK give him.....

[minerve 2] 20/4/2020 13:12

He has several little islands, not just Necker. He owns Mosquito Island close by too.

[maxk] 20/4/2020 13:11

Smiler Branson, who is the UK’s seventh richest person with an estimated £4.7bn fortune.


Yet wants tax payers money to save his pet airline .. is this fun week or what?

[minerve 2] 20/4/2020 13:08

bennodean

It all comes down to decent government and politicians. Something we haven't had on both sides by a significant majority for a good time now.

To have an effective NHS you need to have good long term planning of future resources and its demands and processes in place to enact during emergencies. Unfortunately politicians are unwilling or unable to the write the cheques when necessary generally due to short-termism or ideologies.

As far as COVID-19 is concerned you will not get truthful answers from this government or their advisors especially the Chief Science Officer. You need to understand that he comes from a background of business and is now naturally habituated to just looking at deaths as figures on a spread sheet. I have a bit more time for the other one.

If you go on the internet you will quickly see that much of the science is still open for debate. 2 metre social distancing will cover most instances of risk but not all. It is probably a distance that works well with economics. 4 metres is better and 8 metres better still - it is almost impossible to practice it though. Personally I don't go out shopping without an FFP3 mask and a set of goggles and that is ALL I go out for ATM once a fortnight.

[stonedyou] 20/4/2020 13:02

Mr Kipling sales are doing exceedingly well during coronavirus lockdown


Mr Kipling cakes sales have surged during the coronavirus lockdown says Premier Foods, the company behind the brand.

The food company have revealed that sales were up by around 15% in March, with UK sales surging to 7.3% during the first quarter.

Premier Foods who also make Bisto gravy and Ambrosia custard, said during this “challenging time” they are working at “maximum capacity.”

[diku] 20/4/2020 12:55

How much is Necker island worth?...





Sir Richard Branson has said he will put his private Caribbean island up as a collateral in his attempt to persuade the UK government to save his Virgin Atlantic airline from going bust.

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Branson, who is the UK’s seventh richest person with an estimated £4.7bn fortune and lives on Necker Island in the tax-free British Virgin Islands, on Monday promised in a public blogpost that he would “raise as much money against the island as possible to save as many jobs as possible”.

Branson, 69, made the pledge as he desperately tried to convince the government give his airline a £500m bailout to help it through the “devastating impact this pandemic continues to have”.

[bennodean] 20/4/2020 12:47

Minerve 220 Apr '20 - 11:58 - 301077 of 301086

Disagree. And this next comment is in no way undermining our brilliant nurses BUT if the SAGE, Chief Science OFficer NHS England et al could put out decent guidance the nurses jobs would be so much easier.

We've order how many tens of thousands of venitlators... and now the front line staff are saying that is unlikely the best therapy and the CPAP is probably the better way.

We are 5 months into this - Does anybody actually know how far a sneeze travels? Can I walk behind a jogger ? Does a mask add any value? How long does the virus survive in the open ? Can I catch it more than once ?

Training is all well and good.. if you are giving the right training. And it turns out it might not need to be quite as intensive as we are being led to believe.

Now on to ROCE....I can live with my steel being shipped in.... but I can't undertand why we won't sanction a pattern maker cutting cloth for an apron. Vastly different and relevant examples.

My example works within the current schit state of this country - yours is about irreversible decline of the country of the last 50 years.

Please don't take it as a dig, just had to clarify my point(s)

[crossing_the_rubicon] 20/4/2020 12:46

Many claim "Covid-19" deaths are being inflated.

If anything they're being under reported.

UK - Up to 7500 deaths in UK Care Homes not included in the official figures.

We know China and Iran are lying.

Then there is Ecuador.

"A new report via The Guardian has revealed some pretty shocking statics of a massive death surge over the last several months in one province of the country.

On a six-week basis, starting on March 01, 10,939 people have died in Guayas province, which is well above the six-week average of 3,000 deaths, representing a near quadrupling. Most of the deaths are situated in the province's largest city, Guayaquil.

However, there is some conflicting data, considering on Sunday morning (April 18), Johns Hopkins University COVID-19 data shows a total of 9,022 confirmed cases and 456 deaths in the country"

People are being too complacent about this CoronaVirus.

And this is only phase 1.

2 more phases to get through.

[mr.elbee] 20/4/2020 12:16

what drugs are you on mam?

[crossing_the_rubicon] 20/4/2020 12:12

"cheshire pete19 Apr '20 - 22:21 - 301051 of 301081
Beijing and Shanghai, both neighbouring Wuhan barely affected by virus. Political and military leaders, and the wealthy live there but none caught virus...very fishy. Speculation that coronavirus is a biochemical weapon"


Pretty sure it is a biolab weapon myself.
But leaked in error, not on purpose.

The reason why Beijing & Shanghai barely affected is because:

As soon as Human to Human transmission was confirmed China closed all traffic to Shanghai and Beijing from Wuhan....

BUT

Left international flights from Wuhan OPEN.





Recall the timeline.
By December 31, Taiwan claims Human to human transmission. Ignored.

Jan 14th, WHO's Tedros claims no Human to Human transmission

Jan 20th, China confirmed human-to-human transmission.

Jan 23rd, Xi Jinping closed down all air traffic from Wuhan to the rest of China. But he allowed Wuhan air traffic to travel to the rest of the world.


This is why there are so few cases in neighbouring Shanghai & Beijing

[crossing_the_rubicon] 20/4/2020 12:05

"xxxxxy19 Apr '20 - 19:46 - 301046 of 301081
Kill the Economy.
And the NHS dies the day after"

Overindebtedness is killing the economy. This virus is merely hastening such.

And the NHS also destined to go the same way as it was envisaged to be only for the British people - not all and sundry from around the world.

[m4rtinu] 20/4/2020 12:03

Gbh - completely agree.

[crossing_the_rubicon] 20/4/2020 12:02

"freddie0119 Apr '20 - 17:52 - 301037 of 301078
The number of EU migrants who arrived in Britain under the Free Movement migration regime may have been undercounted by as much as 55 per cent"

Anyone surprised?

A large number under counted by 55%
Most are low paid.
Think of all those negative externalities.