Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[careful] 21/6/2019 11:59

I am genuinely trying to guess what will happen in practice.
I think very little will change.

When you think the Italy has so many changes of government, messy coalitions, that you could hardly name them.

but the Italian economy functions quite well.
(I know there are some problems)

[shy tott] 21/6/2019 11:56

So if you say we may 'crash out' and expect there'll be no great reaction over the leaving days, are you expecting a 'soft crash'? Or is your post, yet again, simply a self-contradictory or oxymoronic post?

[careful] 21/6/2019 11:55

So I go to my Mercedes garage after we crash out, and try to order a new Mercedes.
I need to change my existing one because it is too experienced right now.

What will the dealers say?
'We are on WTO and it will cost you 20% more, go away.'

[minerve 2] 21/6/2019 11:55

maxk, grahamite, cheshire, shy tott, Jacko, elbee, mm2

I reckon none of them have been company directors of a company larger than 2 or 3.

[optomistic] 21/6/2019 11:55

Anything else they can fine Lloyds for?

...António Horta-Osório, Chief Executive of Lloyds Banking Group, says lessons have been learned (while also reminding us that the fraud took place before Lloyds rescued HBOS during the financial crisis):

[minerve 2] 21/6/2019 11:50

Dream on careful.

You may not see immediate change but the cancer will start. In fact, the cancer is already with us.

[maxk] 21/6/2019 11:49

Well summed up careful.

[careful] 21/6/2019 11:43

yes maxk, I was wondering that.
Brexit has the feel of the millennium 2k computer bug that was going to bring the world to an end.

As Kenneth Clarke said, if we crash out on the 29th then what exactly will happen the day after?
All thing being equal, everyone will carry on as before.

As for the Irish border, if they check a few cattle crossing the border the catholics and protectants will start shooting each other again.
Really?

Reminds me about the time the London philharmonic were playing at the Royal Albert Hall and there was a power cut.
The orchestra could not see the conductor in the dark, yet carried on playing brilliantly.
'As he gone home?, one of the violinists said to his chum.'

So with Brexit, it will come and go and we shall not know.

[maxk] 21/6/2019 11:37

Johnny Mercer was first out to bat for Team Boris on the Today Programme after Boris’ place in the final two was confirmed. Mercer made clear that Boris had a “watertight commitment” to leaving on 31st October “come what may” and talked up the “fundamental” importance of respecting the Brexit vote. This is what Tory members will want to hear…

Mercer also made the underappreciated point that there have been plenty of times when the EU and numerous experts in the UK have declared something to be impossible, only for it to happen anyway. As Leo Varadkar pointed out yesterday, there are two sides in the negotiation, and many on the EU side are increasingly hostile to any further extension. Parliament can vote as many times as it likes, it can’t unilaterally prevent no deal in a two-sided negotiation. The only certainty the UK can have is to prepare full-out for no deal so the country is ready however the negotiations play out…



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[shy tott] 21/6/2019 11:36

Looks to me like obviously legal reasonable force in reaction to an unknown but potentially lethal threat. He could have politely asked if she were wearing a suicide vest, but if she were, he may not have got his answer.

It's easy to see if you put yourself in his position at the time. Terrorism is a real threat to people in his position.

[maxk] 21/6/2019 11:27

Estimates, like opinions, are wind!


But seriously, does anyone see barricades going up at mainland ports (either side) at midnight on the 31/10?


Seriously??

[careful] 21/6/2019 11:20

The arithmetic is important.


My estimate is, today as follows.

46m voters.

7m hard no deal Brexit.
11m softer EU. Brexit.
18m remain, call the whole thing off.
10m cant be bothered to vote.

If these estimates are anywhere near correct, then the Tories are spending too much effort chasing the no deal hard Brexit types.

[careful] 21/6/2019 11:13

Many say that Cameron promised a referendum to appease his anti EU. MP'S, and also to stop too many voters switching to UKIP.

The Tories were not sure whether UKIP were picking up tory voters or labour.
Subsequent evidence shows that just as many labour voters were switching to UKIP, mainly on the immigration issue.

[mr.elbee] 21/6/2019 11:09

Farage has trapped the tories into a No Deal by end October...or they are finished...

Totally brilliant!

[cheshire pete] 21/6/2019 11:02

Farage has more influence than you give him credit for careful. Why...because he made the referendum happen in the first place. Cameron didn't do it as a goodwill gesture he was forced into it by his backbenchers under pressure from Farage and the then UKIP.
Now that the Govt. has failed to deliver on the referendum, the Brexit Party will keep up the pressure. Anyone who thinks they'll fade away is wrong as all the reasons that people voted out are still with us. The only variable is the EU in steady decline, not that it matters a jot to the blind remainers too stupid to see it.

[optomistic] 21/6/2019 10:53

Where does the fine go to?

[careful] 21/6/2019 10:52

Why bother about Farage.
His UKIP, renamed, do not have a single MP.

Lib Dems are a bigger threat.
The vast majority of voters are either remain or levers who want a deal.

The Tories are trying to win over the 5-6m Farage hard Brexit types.

They are neglecting the remaining 40m voters.

[alphorn] 21/6/2019 10:48

Cheshire - suspending parliament must be a non starter in realistic terms.