Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[shy tott] 19/6/2019 08:41

Did Boris promise to take us out in Oct? I think he did at one stage early in the debate, buy he wouldn't answer the direct question someone put to the lot of them asking if they would gtee taking us out in Oct. He had the chacge to reiterate what he had said before, but afair, he didn't say an explicit yes when questioned directly. None of them did, with the suicidal candidates explicitly saying they would extend the leaving date! ffs!

[maxk] 19/6/2019 08:20

Swizzerlands turn in the barrel..

[maxk] 19/6/2019 08:19

Boris was on a hiding to nothing last night, everything to lose, nothing to gain.


Hence, stay as quiet as possible.

[pooroldboy55] 19/6/2019 08:14

It's very easy to be a fool very hard to act one,Boris is no fool just wait and see.

[grahamite2] 19/6/2019 08:11

Much interesting discussion on The Telegraph of a Boris-Nigel electoral pact. Such a thing could exploit the vagaries of first past the post rather than suffering from it and produce a massive leave majority in the Commons even on a minority of the vote.

The main difficulty is that so main Brexit Party people don't trust the Conservative Party as far as they could throw a grand piano. Mrs May's legacy of dishonesty and deceit casts a long shadow.

[maxk] 19/6/2019 08:09

Wazul Chipmutt 19 Jun 2019 7:38AM

Last night was an interview to see who could be a leader. Congratulations Rory. You've got the Liberal Democrat job!

[inaminute] 19/6/2019 08:02

Rubbish, it reiterated that Boris is a fool

[xxxxxy] 19/6/2019 07:59

John Redwood
@johnredwood
·
12h
Boris is the only PM candidate now who has promised to get us out of the EU by 31 October. This is crucial to restore some trust in our politics.

[xxxxxy] 19/6/2019 07:57

Then there were five

By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: JUNE 19, 2019

The elimination of only one contender drags out the contest a bit longer. The contest anyway has become a race for second place, to see who would be best to go up against Boris in the lengthier phase of the contest appealing to the members in the country. I think a Johnson/Hunt contest would be best.

It was unfortunate that Rory Stewart wishes to turn the contest into a re run of the referendum, in denial of the clear stance for Brexit all Conservatives put to the electorate in order to become MPs in 2017. He studiously avoided even contacting many Conservative MPs he knew to be committed to our 2017 promises, preferring to attract the support and good wishes of the media, especially the BBC, and sections of the general public wanting a second referendum. He then claims he could get the completely unacceptable Withdrawal Treaty through the Commons after its three big defeats.

The contest has had an unreal air for another reason. Several of the candidates claimed they could renegotiate the Withdrawal Agreement in time for our exit on 31 October. There has never been any glimmer of reason to suppose the EU would enter deep and serious talks about rewriting the Agreement, or that such work could be completed between the end of July and the end of September allowing time to ratify the Agreement by both sides.

The BBC debate was dreadful. It was set up and chaired badly so we learned little. There was no wish to allow or require a serious discussion of the major issues facing the country. Boris was constantly interrupted by the presenter and the BBC pursued its agenda to make sure the candidates could not discuss the great opportunities that follow if we just get on and leave.

[shy tott] 19/6/2019 00:14

Oh good, BA orders a few hundred 737 maxs.

Let's hope they're not still grounded when they take delivery. Perhaps another Heathrow extension would be needed to park them all until they could fly (probably empty) again.

[shy tott] 19/6/2019 00:09

Even today most of the candidates talked of an extension to the Brexit date. Looks like all we'll get as pm is May number 2.

[shy tott] 19/6/2019 00:05

The remainers see May's deal (actually a misnomer, it's the eu's deal) as top totty because the deal doesn't actually take us out of the eu and we'd be intertwined with eu institutions for ever.

It's May's deal, the eu deal, Brexit in name only, the remainers' deal. May's actions were just the actions you'd expect from an arch remainer, as she was. Nothing May did made any sense at all until it's seen in the remainers' perspective, and then it makes perfect sense.

[minerve 2] 18/6/2019 23:53

The chimps think we can support the sheep farmers, give tax cuts to the middle classes, invest in infrastructure, drop business rates and VAT, and fund the NHS more, all at the same time.

Sorry, as Rory states, it is fantasy.

Guy from Oxford was scum.

[maxk] 18/6/2019 23:17

One of us has Roger, and I think it's you.

What part of the May deal is to our advantage?

[xxxxxy] 18/6/2019 23:06

EUSSR is FAIL

Boycott the Con and Labour party of QUISLINGS

LEAVE and WTO

[rogerrail] 18/6/2019 23:03

Max, Clearly you have a problem understanding english. No, Mays deal is a bad deal, but it is the reality of Brexit. The only good deal is staying in with some concession in reforming the rules around freedom of movement.As for a no deal that would kiss goodbye to any tax cuts and any increase in spending on nhs, social care, education etc because the economy would take such a hit we would be hard pressed to maintain the current spend levels.

[diku] 18/6/2019 23:03

Bojo is getting more blonde by the day...maybe he found a new hair stylist...

[maxk] 18/6/2019 22:53

Are your lot Roger, so stupid and up themselves as to believe what May came back with if fair and equitable?



There's always no deal and wto, not ideal, but better than May's €U surrender deal.

[rogerrail] 18/6/2019 22:44

Unfortunately people don't want to hear the truth and prefer to believe fantasy and spin. Rory Stewart was the only one tonight saying it as it is, particularly with regards to tax cuts and the pressure to fund public spending first, and that idiot from Oxford who clearly had a hidden agenda tried to criticise Rory for blaming him for voting brexit which was not true. Rory is correct that the only way to get any Brexit by the 31st of Oct is to run with essentially Mays deal, it is the only one on the table and the EU have re-emphasised that tonight. The only way that is going to get through the parliament door (as it is not a good deal) is to get a consensus to put it to a public vote. That way both Labour and Tory can limit damage to their level of support.

[minerve 2] 18/6/2019 21:48

Cheshire Pete

Answering your earlier question on my strategy....

Investing for all of us has different objectives. For you it might be a little bit of pocket money on top of a defined benefit pension to pay for a holiday or some other one off/occasional treat. For me it is ALL my income. I have no other income from any other source. I perhaps therefore have to consider risk more than you. I tend to follow investment strategies that don't consider macro-economic issues as being too important although I do use them to look for opportunity. Those stocks that depend too much on the macro-economic environment tend not to be the types of stocks I would buy anyway. I do occasionally break from this, but not often.

My investment strategy is based on a mix of Buffett (pre-Berkshire) with Peter Lynch and a dose of Charlie Munger - if that means anything. Probably 45% Peter Lynch, 40% Buffett, 15% Munger.

It would take too long to describe their methods. You would have to read at least 4 or 5 books on Lynch and Buffet to understand how I invest. But that is it in a nutshell.

[mikemichael2] 18/6/2019 21:32

Well, he would not answer the direct question, 'would you cancel the third runway' as he has said many times he would.

Bringing down the government does not solve brexit.

[minerve 2] 18/6/2019 21:30

As a Remainer I would love for the whole thing to be cancelled but I accept that to have any chance of harmony by the majority some compromise has to be reached. If Hard-Brexit is forced through I hope the Hard-Brexiters understand they will most likely bring down their government at some point and regaining power could be lost forever.