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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Kier Group Plc LSE:KIE London Ordinary Share GB0004915632 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.0% 103.20 103.00 103.20 105.00 98.50 98.50 787,359 16:35:10
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Construction & Materials 3,328.5 5.6 -0.1 - 460

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
04/11/2021
16:19
Who is paying the 16% reported hike in cement?
stutes
04/11/2021
08:29
hxxps://www.constructionenquirer.com/2021/11/04/price-hikes-and-shortages-shoot-wildgoose-down/ I agree construction firms face higher prices from suppliers,the possibility of contracted subcontractors unable to absorb hikes, either going bust or forcing contractors to pay for the hikes/delays. Overall construction firms face a perfect storm of inflation, shortages higher interest rates,
stutes
03/11/2021
18:20
Hardly a fair comparison, 1 company with huge cash reserves and proven track record of profits and pay a dividend , against an indebted company, with a lot still to prove, and no dividend and no idea when they are on the horizon
bathboy2
03/11/2021
15:35
Just seen the trading update from Morgan Sindall Group. It is another example of a major construction group stating that inflation and supply chain issues are manageable: Since the time of the half year results on 4 August 2021, trading has continued to be strong. Inflation in the supply chain and the availability of materials and labour have remained manageable. Based on the performance to date and with good visibility of secured workload through to the end of the year, it is now expected that the Group will deliver a full year performance which is slightly above its previous expectations. The same is likely to apply to Kier in my opinion and it adds to my confidence that the Kier management will hit their stated targets.
petersw1
01/11/2021
16:54
Hi gixxer, getting a bonus in last week's means nothing, big companies have to portray a certain way, just look at 1 of the firms who went by the wayside in the last week or so, they were still hiring staff in the last 7 days before their demise. In the last days of ROK, their CEO sent a email to a large number of staff, and said keep on ROcKing
bathboy2
01/11/2021
14:11
@bathboy2. By saying 'Could even be Carillion timeline' you are implying that Kie may go bust. I said in a previous post that Kie just gave their employees a nice little one off bonus - hardly the sign of another Carillion??? Surely Kie would want to be saving every penny it can?
gixxer1
01/11/2021
12:15
Just wondering Wally, have you backed your 105 to 90p fall with an imaginary short? Even if vou haven't, please say you have. Gives those on this board a bit of fun.
dasty1
01/11/2021
12:05
Could even be Carillion timeline
bathboy2
01/11/2021
12:03
As soon as it goes below 100, they will all be on here wailing, still the trading statement in January, will cheer them all up, with words like expectations, and blaming covid 19, and they will pile in again chasing, no dividends
bathboy2
01/11/2021
09:50
120 to 105 in October105 to 90 in NovemberOwn Kier watch your wealth wither away!!
wallywoo
01/11/2021
09:00
Inflation is going nowhere but higher. Don't believe the transitory gossip. You want to own assets that combat the effects of inflation to survive not Kier who will be in the eye of the storm! Anyone who remembers the 70's knows that inflation is a extremely hard beast to tame. They will also remember the thousands of politicians who said it wasn't. It's a game, the politicians know that the more they acknowledge the presence of inflation, the higher it goes. Kier will be hit hard by penalties due to raw materials shortages and inflation for years to come. By admitting that long term inflation is here, actually causes more long term inflation, that's why they will always play it down!!
wallywoo
01/11/2021
08:47
hxxps://www.constructionenquirer.com/2021/11/01/industry-to-be-hit-with-16-cement-price-hike/ Hopefully K is protected on price hikes? The downside is how many Clients can pay the increase cost or will they go bust or suspend work/pull tenders till prices normalise?
stutes
01/11/2021
08:19
Cement up 16%, all aggregates will be going up in January, anything from 10%, to an eye-watering 25% for some companies, with possibly another rise in April, for fuel changes and carbon trading, projects will be held back, and some cancelled completely, government contracts will be no longer achievable at cost projections, plenty of headwinds in construction and as seen already a few medium and larger players are already in the red and some already failing,
bathboy2
29/10/2021
20:38
You heard it here first.
zicopele
29/10/2021
15:11
Point taken Wally about Kie as an Employer and Kie as an investment. But as a long, and also investing in the company ShareSave Scheme (which I can't lose on) I am confident that the share price will go up to something a lot more profitable; it will take a few years and will never be back to the heady heights of 1100 plus. You have your opinion and I have mine; both of us are entitled to them.
gixxer1
29/10/2021
13:04
Gixxer, there are two different things here that we are discussing. Kier as a employer, and Kier as a investment. In deed as an example, Interserve carried on regardless as a employer but lost 100 percent of the investment. This is a investment BB, I discuss it as a investment. It is a unfortunate fact that companies who have a large number of employees fail to look at their company as a investment. Their BB's are always full of comments like yours. It is investment / chart theory and fundamentals that states that Kier as a investment is uncertain (not me). They have a massive amount of shares, they struggle to generate any cash, they have a terrible balance sheet and large pension liability. They have munched through £491m of cash in 3 years, and have everything to prove that they have stopped doing that. If the chart shows that a reversal is likely, I will change my mind, but for now down is the most likely direction!
wallywoo
29/10/2021
09:19
Imo, Kier are going nowhere as a company, but they are strangled by debt, and being in a low margin industry. The issue for shareholders, is the shares can be unpredictable, and with them not paying a dividend, at present and possibly for another few years, 'medium term', in kier's own word, the case for putting more money in. Like someone on one of the boards said the other day, your money would be better gambling on premium bonds, they at least generally create a return, tax free, and the value doesn't drop
bathboy2
29/10/2021
08:09
Greetings one and all! Not posted for a while, but I do visit the board every working day. @Wally. By saying that Kie's future is grim and uncertain, you imply that they may go under. What makes you say this? As you well know I am a Kie employee and we are still riding the storm and not out of it by no means, but we are certainly not sitting in the lifeboats bailing the water out as we slowly sink while waiting to be rescued. The share price is down (that, no one can deny) but IMO Kie will not go under. BTW, Kie employees got a pleasant little one off bonus this month too; surely not the actions of a company with a grim and uncertain future?
gixxer1
29/10/2021
07:29
That's sensible Peter, catch that falling knife. These sayings were created for daft investors like you.Kier has a 3 year history of giving out very bad news. There's no indication or news at all that things have changed in this period. The share price has fallen over 20 percent and the trend is down.Now is not the time to top up. Sensible investors would wait for indications that the trend is changing.
wallywoo
28/10/2021
09:24
Given the latest data, I think the market has been overly worried about stagflation. Seems the economy is doing ok and given the budget it is clear Kier's main customers are going to continue spending. Seems a good entrypoint at this price. I've topped up. I won't be surprised if it drops some more, but expect it to ramp back up, with no news being good news as we get closer to the next trading update in early January.
petersw1
28/10/2021
09:02
A few words from Kier on the budget: hTTps://www.kier.co.uk/media/news-releases/autumn-budget-and-spending-review-2021/ The Chancellor has today announced his Autumn Budget and Spending Review 2021, which included a number of elements, some of which are relevant to the built environment: £2.6bn spent on education access to school places for those with extra needs, including improvements to school buildings’ accessibility, and new provisions. An extra £1.5bn of additional spending for transport infrastructure in the city regions, with a further £21bn in roads and £46bn in rail. £1.7bn to invest in the infrastructure of everyday life in over 100 local areas A business rate improvement relief from 2023 allowing for greater numbers of expansion projects Investing £1.5bn in net zero innovation, and laying the foundations for the wider transition to a more resilient energy supply by investing in nuclear technologies and offshore wind Further to the Review today, our chief executive Andrew Davies, said: “Kier welcomes the Chancellor’s continued commitment to provide investment in future projects across a number of government departments. “As the country emerges from a challenging period in its Covid-19 recovery, these investments will provide much-needed upgrades to social infrastructure, transport facilities and local communities across the UK, positively impacting those that need it the most. “As well as boosting productivity and positive economic outcomes, today’s announcements also present real opportunities for the construction and infrastructure sector to create new jobs and training opportunities and to enhance sustainability in the built environment.”
stdyeddy
28/10/2021
07:45
Go back 130+ posts and you will be back in September / early October. The share price then was 134, so is 20 percent down over that time. The general market is up over that time and hitting 18 month highs, so Kier are deeply under performing the market. Company SP's do that when they are very over valued and their future is grim and uncertain. That's all anyone needs to know!!
wallywoo
27/10/2021
09:47
Please enlighten us with your thoughts, which side to you fall on??
bathboy2
27/10/2021
06:09
Flipped through 130+ posts Nothing to see here. Same people, same rants, no content
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