Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Kier Group Plc LSE:KIE London Ordinary Share GB0004915632 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  -1.20 -1.03% 115.20 1,583,287 16:35:25
Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price
114.60 115.20 117.20 114.60 116.60
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Construction & Materials 3,328.50 5.60 -0.10 514
Last Trade Time Trade Type Trade Size Trade Price Currency
17:34:00 O 6,929 115.717 GBX

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Kier Daily Update: Kier Group Plc is listed in the Construction & Materials sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker KIE. The last closing price for Kier was 116.40p.
Kier Group Plc has a 4 week average price of 112.80p and a 12 week average price of 112.80p.
The 1 year high share price is 137.40p while the 1 year low share price is currently 43p.
There are currently 446,165,699 shares in issue and the average daily traded volume is 969,874 shares. The market capitalisation of Kier Group Plc is £513,982,885.25.
wallywoo: Nothing wrong with going short, SYME for example have been on a down trend for a year moving from 0.8p to 0.2p in that time. Sure the share price has bounced a fair bit, but it would of been a lot easier to make money being short than long. I believe that trend is a long way from finished.Kier's share price is distorted by the equity issue, as it was in 2019. When you issue 454 percent more shares in 3 years the trend is not as obvious. But the company has not turned around IMO. I don't think it will. It will either become a dull share moving very little (between 80-100 most likely IMO), or will tank again. Either way not a good investment.
wallywoo: Hey Sparty, how's your investment in SYME? Got any other amazing tips? - I could do with a laugh!! We had johnbuythelosers on here 1/2 weeks ago who tipped SNT at 34p (now 22!!!!). You Kier bulls have incredible skills at picking loser's. I would be very busy on here if I only came on when the share price was dipping. It's been doing that for a few months now. Don't own Cost, but it does demonstrate how bad Kier is. Cost has tangible net assets of around +£140m, while Kier have -£265m. That in a nutshell is why I dislike this share so much, any cash generated is immediately paid out to the owners of that debt through one means or other. Really poorly capitalised, and IMO still likely to lose cash for that reason. If Costain can't pay a dividend, Kier have no chance.
stdyeddy: Nearly 2% of Kier changed hands today. Something is afoot. Maybe not a big thing. Time will tell. I actually didn't say it was a takeover wolly. However, this industry is famous for takeovers and it would be supremely ironic if Kier, with its own long takeover history, were to be the subject of a bid. The share price is still at a low level so the business could easily be attractive to a bidder interested in buying one of the UK's largest construction firms with a massive order book, no net debt and well established brand. Btw, I remember this time last year you wolly, being VERY negative about Kier, after which the share price TREBLED in four or five months. Also wolly, I recall you telling us that you were massively short, but then later revealing that you'd made the whole thing up (I suspect you actually lost a lot of money trying to short Kier). Also, you promised to apologise to everyone here if and when the share price went past 100p -- despite dozens of reminders, you refuse to fulfil this very simple commitment. Given your background of flagrant dishonesty and lies, it is natural that everyone here disregards everything you say now. Have a nice evening. 😊
wallywoo: Lol, a take over!! Really Stdy you out do yourself with bullsh*t The share price is hitting a 4 month low, the share price is down on high Volume, when the market is up. Looking like a step down the share price ladder, as predicted. Why you so interested in this slowly decreasing stock. Lots of fun happening elsewhere, pfc, Omi looking hot, jkx up 180 percent since I tipped it a few months ago. Miners all cheap as chips now and a real bargain. Kie just looks expensive and dull. Just like Costain after their large equity issue, the share price will be under pressure with lots of new shareholders to keep happy.
stdyeddy: Don't worry wolly, there are plenty of buyers of Kier shares. 4m has been snapped up and the share price has barely moved. No one is ramping Kier. We are merely answering the malicious lies of trolls like you. The business has properly turned the corner now; first profit reported for two years, £93m in cash generated. Debt wiped out through the asset sale and cash raise, strong order book. All of that is in the results; no need to call it 'ramping'. You are the one (with your TWO identities here, wally/bathboy) trying to persuade investors to do something. And as usual, YOU are fooling no one. And as for 'reams and reams of ramping posts' YOU posted on here thirteen times yesterday, and according to you, you don't even have a position here. And when you claimed you did have a position some months ago, you said you were SHORT and lost massively. You are clearly delusional and motivated by some deep-seated hatred of Kier. You should find another hobby. Btw, you STILL owe everyone an apology; you said that you would apologise if Kier went past 100p in May. The fact that you can't live up to your promises shows just how dishonest YOU are.
stdyeddy: wolly!!! I thought you had died! Since you are still here, and have read all of my posts, don't you think it's time that you apologised for being so wrong about Kier? You said that you would. Regarding Kier and MGNS, the fundamental fact which you have always overlooked is that Kier is a large business, much larger than MGNS in fact, with strong revenue which will be generating large profits now that the 'great restructuring' is over. MGNS has historically managed its finances better than Kier's last management team, but I am looking to the future. Lessons have been learned, especially from the failures at Carillion and Interserve, and clients recognise that construction firms need a reasonable margin to survive and finish the job. Kier's margin has been increasing steadily since Davies took over and I'm expecting that trend to continue for a while. Also, Kier paid out large dividends until quite recently, and Davies has laid out an initial plan for dividends returning here (one third of profits to be paid out in dividends) although not the timeline, so I am not expecting payouts this year, but maybe in 2022. Profits for next year are forecast to be around £140m to £157m btw. This final half-year may well have generated £70m. If it has, we are on track for a very rapid recovery. The reality, which has already set-in for you, is that Kier has survived and is successfully rebuilding its balance sheet. A fwd p/e of 4 is far too low for this business, and we will see a re-rating of this share over the next fortnight.
imastu pidgitaswell: I know a cheaper one... Whatever the rights and wrongs of the share price, these are the facts. Similar PE ratios (although COST lower), very different Enterprise Value to Earnings per Share (or EBITDA if you prefer) ratios - which is what a PE bidder would be looking at: ................................KIE....................COST Number of shares................446.....................275 Share price....................1.30...................0.611 Market Cap .....................579.....................168 Financial Debt at 31.12.20......436 Delayed Tax......................50 Trade Finance...................110 Cash raised....................(229) KL sale....................... (100) Net debt / (cash)...............267....................(113) Enterprise Value................846......................55 Projecting forward earnings: ................................KIE....................COST Turnover......................4,000...................1,200 Margin.........................3.0%....................3.5% PBT.............................120......................42 Tax............................ (30)..... ..............(11) PAT..............................90......................32 Number of shares................446.....................275 EPS(p).........................20.2p...................11.5p PE ratio.......................6.44....................5.33 E/V : Profit ratio.............9.40....................1.75
eriktherock: It looked a short @ £13 ditto @ £1.30 eriktherock - 16 Jan 2018 - 21:51:33 - 783 of 22788 Kier Group 2005 - The Building Business - KIE Given that Kier will cherry-pick Government sponsored framework projects. It's hard to believe that the share price is not past 1300. It will be by the end of the week of course. eriktherock - 23 Jul 2018 - 13:04:04 - 917 of 22788 Kier Group 2005 - The Building Business - KIE I've decided to scale in short @ 940p. We shouldn't need 'vision 2020' to see where this is heading. 921p > 732p > 418p
imastu pidgitaswell: I would agree with that - but it remains a work in progress (as is Costain before anyone starts...) Fragile and I don't think all of the nasties have been fully declared yet - trade financing and delayed tax etc etc. I don't think any of that will impact the share price when it is declared - but they have been very careful with the level and timing of their disclosures. Anyway - the article (really a very very short 'interview' once the journalistic background is excluded - how many quote?): The chief executive of the UK government’s biggest construction contractor has admitted that a Cabinet Office decision to “de facto” support the company with contracts for the HS2 railway line saved it from a Carillion style-collapse three years ago. Andrew Davies, the chief executive of Kier, says the business was an “absolute mess” and on the brink of bankruptcy when he took on the challenge of rebuilding the FTSE 250-listed business in April 2019.  “It was tough love, and there were no special favours,” Davies said in an interview with the Financial Times. “But the government did de facto save us by awarding us contracts. The biggest one was HS2.” Kier is the UK government’s second largest contractor overall, using thousands of subcontractors to build hospitals, schools and prisons. It is also the Highways Agency’s largest supplier as well as one of the biggest contractors on the HS2 rail link, where it is building the line from the Chiltern Hills, north west of London, to Birmingham. “There were hard talks but the government made it very clear it didn’t want another collapse,” said Davies, a former executive of BAE Systems. “We did matter.” The government said: “HS2 Ltd’s rigorous procurement process is open to all bidders with the relevant experience and required credentials, and ensures value for money for the taxpayer.” Davies took over Kier after it admitted to “accounting errors” that wiped millions off the share price and with shareholders unwilling to support an emergency cash call. Rival contractor Carillion had been liquidated a year earlier and Interserve was in the hands of creditors. There were fears that a Kier collapse would have been more disruptive to government services than its rivals as it was engaged in fewer joint ventures, in which partners could continue the work. Now, Davies says that Kier is on the up again after posting a £9m profit on revenue of £1.6bn for the six months to the end of December, compared with a loss of £41m on revenues of £1.8bn in the same period the previous year. In April, it raised £241m in a rights issue to pay down much of its £436m net debt. Like Carillion, Kier had squirrelled away debts on its balance sheet and expanded in areas in which it had “no experience and no expertise”, said Davies. He has narrowed the company’s focus, ridding it of its environmental services and housebuilding operations and shrinking its facilities management business, reducing staff numbers from 16,000 people to fewer than 12,000. The company is now an infrastructure and construction group with an £8bn order book, almost solely focused on winning work from the government or regulated utilities, he said. It has yet to set out plans to restore the dividend. Still Davies is optimistic that the company has weathered the pressures of the pandemic. Kier took £9m in furlough payments from the government, which it has not repaid. On most of its contracts, including HS2, the government bears the brunt of any increase in materials prices or unexpected costs. Stephen Rawlinson, analyst at Applied Value, said Kier had “got lucky and been given the chance to rebuild”. “The collapse of Carillion helped the government realise it did not want a repeat,” he said. “The balance sheet is still weak but it is winning work.”
stdyeddy: This BB is crawling with you wollywoo. Not short and not long. What are you doing here? The longs here have been making money for eight months. You are a such a berk. It's you who has got all of your 'expert' predictions wrong and you've had to confess to lying to everyone here for months (possibly years) about your 'short' position which you kept adding to from 50p in October until you were totally embarrassed when the share price hit 120p. You'll still be here lying your pants off when the share price hits £3. A ridiculous obsession you've got, and considering your age, probably some kind of mental health condition. Kier has very little debt now, compared to almost every other business on the stock market, some of them with billions in debt such as large retail, airlines, oil cos, almost every sector. Kier is a market leader with 'permission' to grow its margins because the sector does not want another failure. Kier now has plenty of cash and a responsible management team. Mid-July for the full year trading results. People who've sold 110/120 will kick themselves when they see this at 300p. There is no way that this will not hit £2 now by mid-July. After that it'll be an automatic entry to rejoin the FTSE250. Index followers will pile in towards the end of August. All of the index funds will be compelled to buy Kier in early September and the share price will fly to £3 if it isn't already there, and well beyond if it is. You wolly and you zicko, prattling on with your lies and sh1t-talking are the biggest couple of clowns on this board. A couple of stupid old men who have the weirdest way of passing the time -- spewing rubbish onto this board. Karma will see the pair of you reap what you sow. Meanwhile a hard core of Kier investors are going to ride this wave to January and maybe beyond. Hamham put it well a few weeks back -- opportunities like this come round maybe once every 7-10 years. We are invested in the sector's market leader, with almost no debt, a huge order book and a government sponsored economic revival for levelling up the UK. The forward p/e for Kier is about 3. Just 3. For a business forecast to make £140m to £157m annually and committed to paying out a third of it in dividends. No other construction firm will be able to touch this share price for profit over the next year.
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