Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Kier Group Plc LSE:KIE London Ordinary Share GB0004915632 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.70 1.09% 64.80 64.40 64.80 64.80 63.90 64.80 451,107 16:35:16
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Construction & Materials 3,328.5 5.6 -0.1 - 289

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Given the latest data, I think the market has been overly worried about stagflation. Seems the economy is doing ok and given the budget it is clear Kier's main customers are going to continue spending.
Seems a good entrypoint at this price. I've topped up.
I won't be surprised if it drops some more, but expect it to ramp back up, with no news being good news as we get closer to the next trading update in early January.

A few words from Kier on the budget:

The Chancellor has today announced his Autumn Budget and Spending Review 2021, which included a number of elements, some of which are relevant to the built environment:

£2.6bn spent on education access to school places for those with extra needs, including improvements to school buildings’ accessibility, and new provisions.
An extra £1.5bn of additional spending for transport infrastructure in the city regions, with a further £21bn in roads and £46bn in rail.
£1.7bn to invest in the infrastructure of everyday life in over 100 local areas
A business rate improvement relief from 2023 allowing for greater numbers of expansion projects
Investing £1.5bn in net zero innovation, and laying the foundations for the wider transition to a more resilient energy supply by investing in nuclear technologies and offshore wind
Further to the Review today, our chief executive Andrew Davies, said:

“Kier welcomes the Chancellor’s continued commitment to provide investment in future projects across a number of government departments.

“As the country emerges from a challenging period in its Covid-19 recovery, these investments will provide much-needed upgrades to social infrastructure, transport facilities and local communities across the UK, positively impacting those that need it the most.

“As well as boosting productivity and positive economic outcomes, today’s announcements also present real opportunities for the construction and infrastructure sector to create new jobs and training opportunities and to enhance sustainability in the built environment.”

Go back 130+ posts and you will be back in September / early October. The share price then was 134, so is 20 percent down over that time. The general market is up over that time and hitting 18 month highs, so Kier are deeply under performing the market.

Company SP's do that when they are very over valued and their future is grim and uncertain. That's all anyone needs to know!!

Please enlighten us with your thoughts, which side to you fall on??
Flipped through 130+ posts

Nothing to see here.

Same people, same rants, no content

You know are right.
Wow, zico, I didn't know you could see the future so clearly with all your facts. You don't say you think those things will happen, you say thry will. If you are that good, do let me know who the winners will be at Chepstow this afternoon.
Just over 3 weeks to the AGM. Anyone submitted any questions yet? I wonder if we will get any trading update? If we do probably along the lines of 'trading in line with management expectations' pointless nonsense. Am more looking forward to a Jan trading update to see if kier turnaround and cash generation is actually happening. Or not. Interesting to see most construction companies share price down 15 % this past month, except gfrd. Several months of steady climb there. Allegedly cash rich COST fishing for new lows... I just can't work out construction companies. They all look so cheap. Probably for a good reason!
Maybe bathboy, the market is testing it's high again and that's keeping Kier up for now. Personally I think we are in a bubble, but like all bubbles it's a fool's game predicting when it will burst.One thing is for sure when it goes Kier will get hit hard, with the huge number of shares in issue and the lack of any dividends.
Wally are you still predicting 105 by end of this week, as you did earlier this month 12/10/21, seems to be heading there??
For the last 2 months have headed the construction gain contracts leader board so the pipeline is looking good
Don't short shares, don't agree with it, but I think it won't be long before the shorters begin to take an interest in kier, especially if interest rates are to climb, the signs are there for a market correction, and if it were to happen, this one would be hard hit, see kier not in the running for 540m hs2 job, seeing as that is the golden fleece, that was going to be kiers saviour according to many people
Bath bumpkin..if you had followed wally`s advice you would have lost a packet shorting @ 50p..
Is he out of a job as a paid ramper, just like who's he trying to support, not very good imo lol
Anyone remember the death music that many period computer games used to play, when your character died?

It's a shame you can't put sounds on BB's. It feels to me those sounds should play on the Kier BB!! Perhaps with a Stdy gravestone graphic with RIP!!

Best option is to be not in, it's ok now winter's here, if you burn money like kier, your house will be very warm lol
OMG this is all so entertaining! Wally I am in awe of you and how you have manged to wind up these various PI's and get them to react to your every comment. I have no idea if you believe in what you are saying and I don't care. but you clearly have a lot of time on your hands in order to react to each individual comment.
My one and only comment to these guys is; You may or may not make money from these levels in this company but it is a company that has totally lost its way and currently has offered returns to investors over the last 5 years of less than 10% of original value, ouch! Why would you defend against such obvious fundamentals?
I happened to look at this company in my search for undervalued companies and I look at the threads as part of that. Seeing what I have, in the words of Dragons Den, '
I'm out'!

Lol sparty, I am quite happy to take a risk.

However, owning a money pit that has spent £491m of shareholders money in 3 years, is not a risk that has much chance of success. They are in the same sector as Costain, who despite having a much better balance sheet still is poorly rated and can't afford dividends.

It's funny that you get your type of poster on all these sites (incl SYME, snt etc). You aggressively attack any cynical posts. You fail to see why a company that has issued a tonne of new shares and spent money like water with little generated on their own, would be a poor investment. I like investments that generate cash and reward shareholders, not money pits.

Anyone would think you have a alternative agenda!!

My ridiculous ramblings are facts, Stdy;Kier's balance sheet near identical to 3 years ago despite £491m injected through the issue of 384m shares. Revenue is down over that time and order book is is also down.So today Kier have 484 percent more shares and less business with a exactly same amount of capital on the balance sheet.Kier give no clues to the current period (now more than half way through -3.5 months). It was at 5 months back in late November 2018, that Kier announced their profit warning.Same again? The clues are in the share price trend IMO.
My 212 page copy of the reports and accounts arrived this morning entitled "Sustainable growth". An impressive document written by expert marketeers containing plenty of trendy 'sustainability' stuff and featuring more women in hard hats than men in hard hats to give a good woke impression.

The 2021 Annual Report is, it would seem, "fair balanced and understandable statement"

It seems that we are going for "zero avoidable waste" No investor has ever wanted to see any avoidable waste that costs us money.

The only excuse for all this woke stuff is if it gets us better contracts.

wolly, I've got the facts on kier through following the business diligently for two and half years now, listening to every investor presentation, reading interim and annual reports and every news story concerning kier (real and fake), and working within the industry itself -- there are better informed, honest people on this thread with whom to discuss them, so I don't need to 'state what is dishonest' in your ridiculous ramblings, especially since we've dealt with them here many times before.
I'm starting to feel sorry for poor bathboy, not even wally appreciates his comments.
Lol Stdy, please state what is dishonest with the facts I present?

I don't mean the tiny things you believe to be true about me personally, but the facts I put in the last post about Kier!

Surely if you were a genuine pi, then you would be interested in those facts? Because they are about the company you own?? And they clearly show Kier has squandered £491m shareholders cash in 3 years????


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