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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Kier Group Plc LSE:KIE London Ordinary Share GB0004915632 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  1.40 1.25% 113.80 113.40 113.80 115.80 112.80 115.00 1,953,511 16:35:27
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Construction & Materials 3,328.5 5.6 -0.1 - 508

Kier Share Discussion Threads

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
23/10/2021
07:58
For the last 2 months have headed the construction gain contracts leader board so the pipeline is looking good
tnt99
22/10/2021
13:44
Don't short shares, don't agree with it, but I think it won't be long before the shorters begin to take an interest in kier, especially if interest rates are to climb, the signs are there for a market correction, and if it were to happen, this one would be hard hit, see kier not in the running for 540m hs2 job, seeing as that is the golden fleece, that was going to be kiers saviour according to many people
bathboy2
22/10/2021
13:08
Bath bumpkin..if you had followed wally`s advice you would have lost a packet shorting @ 50p..
sparty1
22/10/2021
11:01
Is he out of a job as a paid ramper, just like who's he trying to support, not very good imo lol
bathboy2
22/10/2021
08:16
Anyone remember the death music that many period computer games used to play, when your character died? It's a shame you can't put sounds on BB's. It feels to me those sounds should play on the Kier BB!! Perhaps with a Stdy gravestone graphic with RIP!!
wallywoo
21/10/2021
16:47
Best option is to be not in, it's ok now winter's here, if you burn money like kier, your house will be very warm lol
bathboy2
21/10/2021
16:17
OMG this is all so entertaining! Wally I am in awe of you and how you have manged to wind up these various PI's and get them to react to your every comment. I have no idea if you believe in what you are saying and I don't care. but you clearly have a lot of time on your hands in order to react to each individual comment. My one and only comment to these guys is; You may or may not make money from these levels in this company but it is a company that has totally lost its way and currently has offered returns to investors over the last 5 years of less than 10% of original value, ouch! Why would you defend against such obvious fundamentals? I happened to look at this company in my search for undervalued companies and I look at the threads as part of that. Seeing what I have, in the words of Dragons Den, ' I'm out'!
prokartace
20/10/2021
08:49
Lol sparty, I am quite happy to take a risk. However, owning a money pit that has spent £491m of shareholders money in 3 years, is not a risk that has much chance of success. They are in the same sector as Costain, who despite having a much better balance sheet still is poorly rated and can't afford dividends. It's funny that you get your type of poster on all these sites (incl SYME, snt etc). You aggressively attack any cynical posts. You fail to see why a company that has issued a tonne of new shares and spent money like water with little generated on their own, would be a poor investment. I like investments that generate cash and reward shareholders, not money pits. Anyone would think you have a alternative agenda!!
wallywoo
16/10/2021
12:36
My ridiculous ramblings are facts, Stdy;Kier's balance sheet near identical to 3 years ago despite £491m injected through the issue of 384m shares. Revenue is down over that time and order book is is also down.So today Kier have 484 percent more shares and less business with a exactly same amount of capital on the balance sheet.Kier give no clues to the current period (now more than half way through -3.5 months). It was at 5 months back in late November 2018, that Kier announced their profit warning.Same again? The clues are in the share price trend IMO.
wallywoo
16/10/2021
08:55
My 212 page copy of the reports and accounts arrived this morning entitled "Sustainable growth". An impressive document written by expert marketeers containing plenty of trendy 'sustainability' stuff and featuring more women in hard hats than men in hard hats to give a good woke impression. The 2021 Annual Report is, it would seem, "fair balanced and understandable statement" It seems that we are going for "zero avoidable waste" No investor has ever wanted to see any avoidable waste that costs us money. The only excuse for all this woke stuff is if it gets us better contracts.
this_is_me
15/10/2021
20:33
wolly, I've got the facts on kier through following the business diligently for two and half years now, listening to every investor presentation, reading interim and annual reports and every news story concerning kier (real and fake), and working within the industry itself -- there are better informed, honest people on this thread with whom to discuss them, so I don't need to 'state what is dishonest' in your ridiculous ramblings, especially since we've dealt with them here many times before.
stdyeddy
15/10/2021
16:45
I'm starting to feel sorry for poor bathboy, not even wally appreciates his comments.
petersw1
15/10/2021
16:15
Lol Stdy, please state what is dishonest with the facts I present? I don't mean the tiny things you believe to be true about me personally, but the facts I put in the last post about Kier! Surely if you were a genuine pi, then you would be interested in those facts? Because they are about the company you own?? And they clearly show Kier has squandered £491m shareholders cash in 3 years???? Thanks
wallywoo
15/10/2021
16:04
Thanks for giving us your opinion wolly, for the millionth time, despite no one asking for it. You are fundamentally incorrect in many areas but we have had this out hundreds of times so I see no need to discuss, apart from this: The reason I and others don't like you is because you are a liar and a fraud. You were long on Interserve and lost a load of money, but you claimed instead on this board that you'd shorted the firm and made money. Peter outed you on this and you confirmed the truth of it with your subsequent posts. You tried to short Kier for a long period last year from 50p, and 'advised' everyone to sell Kier, even while it was going up, while claiming to increase your short until it was enormous, and then when the price kept on going up it ultimately blew up your position, but you claimed that you hadn't lost any money (either the short or your claim about not losing money therefore being yet another lie). You promised to apologise to everyone here, if and when the Kier shareprice broke through £1, but you have failed to live up to this promise despite being told to honour it dozens of times. You are fundamentally dishonest; your motives are dishonest; and that is why you have no credibility on this thread and you are not, as you say, 'liked', by anyone apart from your fake identity 'bathboy' (your other account).
stdyeddy
15/10/2021
15:13
Let's just list a few facts; 1) Kier's share price has been on a down trend for 2/3 months. There's no sign of that changing. 2) 354m shares have been newly issued over the last 3 years (484 percent more). That's a awful lot more of investor interest needed. Despite raising £491m from shareholders, tangible net assets has changed from -£261m (June 18) to -£265m (June 21). So all that money is gone / lost over 3 years. The business is no healthier. 3) peterw, stdy, bathboy, forks post no where else. They are just trying to drum up investor interest (for and against, since any interest is good and sell / markets Kier shares). 4) they don't like me because I know what you are doing and point it out. 5) there's no evidence that Kier can generate any cash and operate as a successful business. They still have (-£265m) net tangible assets (that's what you are buying with your hard earned money) - a debt. Posters have been saying it's a bargain for 5 years now. It isn't, it's just a terrible investment. 6) the pension pot (at £1.6b size) is too big for this company. Any spare cash for years goes towards it. With inflation and possibly stagflation looming this will make matters even harder. Overall This remains a extremely high risk / low reward investment, which is why paid posters try so hard to drum up interest on it. Carillon, interserve, Connaught, Jarvis, are all companies which have undergone similar journeys and finished up bust. This sector never learns!!
wallywoo
15/10/2021
11:29
How wrong can someone be, that I am wolly, and again people are putting housing companies as a bellwether for potential profits and containment of costs, they tend to plan sites and materials, well in advance, they will not show signs of the cost increases probably until next year
bathboy2
15/10/2021
11:21
Annual Report 2021 out today: Https://www.kier.co.uk/media/6966/kier-2021-ara-final.pdf
petersw1
14/10/2021
17:25
Thanks for the pointer to the Barratt update stdyeddy. Seems that well ran companies with scale can navigate the current supply chain challenges.
petersw1
14/10/2021
16:03
ontheforks; bathboy is wolly. A boring troll. wolly has no position here but his feelings are irretrievably hurt because he has been completely humiliated on this board. Whenever Kier ticks down, wolly will get excited, hoping the share price will keep going. Interesting update from Barratt yesterday; despite the ongoing talk of inflated materials costs, Barratt, like other housebuilders, have continued to make good profits and maintain turnover. I suspect Kier is managing the same.
stdyeddy
14/10/2021
09:18
With all the new contracts HS2 work main competitor gone bust the future to me looks rosy for kier bought in at 40p so this is going to be a renewed kier going forward under the stewardship of the the new boss and expect the margins will be steadily increased due to demandCosts are the only thing that might hold them back a little
tnt99
14/10/2021
07:47
It's not directly comparable, but Costain did go up some 150% in short order last April, then had the placement, then drifted down to 30p and then doubled - and farted around that level ever since, over the past 12 months. There was some money to be made. In terms of KIE, the short term drivers are not there, but up the thick end of 300% isn't too bad for the moment. As per the numbers around the time of the results, I have it on a forward earnings ratio of around 5, depending on what tax rate you used. Pretty cheap, I would say.
imastu pidgitaswell
14/10/2021
07:40
Calm down, you obviously like giving, but can't take, you should never let anyone like Wally get under your skin, no one knows his position, but he is possibly right on this one, that kier is going to roll back to a level, like costain have, and will bumble around at level for years, the only thing that can drive the share fully forward is some real figures or a possible takeover, still no sign of a dividend, that could be years away also
bathboy2
14/10/2021
07:14
Nocredwoo seeing as you've resorted to calling me an idiot for showing you up for what you are I take it you like your keyboard warrior life but here's the thing one day someone like me will catch up with warriors like yourself and you will learn a very painful lesson if you survive.... Good luck longs 👍🏻
ontheforks
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