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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Kier Group Plc LSE:KIE London Ordinary Share GB0004915632 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  1.40 1.25% 113.80 113.40 113.80 115.80 112.80 115.00 1,953,511 16:35:27
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Construction & Materials 3,328.5 5.6 -0.1 - 508

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
04/10/2021
10:18
When will K restore its dividend? The longer it takes to pay a dividend the more likely institutions, who search for dividend income, are likely to opt for other firms who pay dividends. Time for K to pay a dividend.
stutes
01/10/2021
07:46
Savills' website shows Tempsford Hsll is under offer. The CEO is reported as saying he's fixed K so will the dividend payout be restored and at what level?
stutes
01/10/2021
06:10
If your hypothesis is correct and someone is stake building then the share price should be sharply up today, and in deed it should of been yesterday.Of course we both know that won't be the case!!
wallywoo
30/9/2021
18:06
Nearly 2% of Kier changed hands today. Something is afoot. Maybe not a big thing. Time will tell. I actually didn't say it was a takeover wolly. However, this industry is famous for takeovers and it would be supremely ironic if Kier, with its own long takeover history, were to be the subject of a bid. The share price is still at a low level so the business could easily be attractive to a bidder interested in buying one of the UK's largest construction firms with a massive order book, no net debt and well established brand. Btw, I remember this time last year you wolly, being VERY negative about Kier, after which the share price TREBLED in four or five months. Also wolly, I recall you telling us that you were massively short, but then later revealing that you'd made the whole thing up (I suspect you actually lost a lot of money trying to short Kier). Also, you promised to apologise to everyone here if and when the share price went past 100p -- despite dozens of reminders, you refuse to fulfil this very simple commitment. Given your background of flagrant dishonesty and lies, it is natural that everyone here disregards everything you say now. Have a nice evening. 😊
stdyeddy
30/9/2021
13:00
Lol, a take over!! Really Stdy you out do yourself with bullsh*t The share price is hitting a 4 month low, the share price is down on high Volume, when the market is up. Looking like a step down the share price ladder, as predicted. Why you so interested in this slowly decreasing stock. Lots of fun happening elsewhere, pfc, Omi looking hot, jkx up 180 percent since I tipped it a few months ago. Miners all cheap as chips now and a real bargain. Kie just looks expensive and dull. Just like Costain after their large equity issue, the share price will be under pressure with lots of new shareholders to keep happy.
wallywoo
30/9/2021
09:42
A very large chip transfer has occurred this morning; 7 million kier shares changed hands and the share price barely blinked. I think someone is stake-building. I won't get over-excited and say it's a pre-cursor to a bid for the business -- it might simply be a fund building an investment position. But that volume of shares is most unusual on here, on a no-news day.
stdyeddy
29/9/2021
13:28
Nice to see it quiet and civilised on here, now that wolly has finally admitted defeat.
stdyeddy
29/9/2021
12:45
I see K's Tempsford Hall is up for sale or rent through Savills, rent at £11.50 sq FT.
stutes
28/9/2021
09:29
Looks like a hold till next year now at least it's steady till next update good luck longs 👍🏻
ontheforks
24/9/2021
07:53
Just passing through and checking up on my investment. Looking good. Wally = short 50p and no money lost Zico = short 78p Absolute losers. GLA
johnbuythedips
23/9/2021
20:04
Twickenham sewage job could go to sh.., and could end up going down the toilet lol
bathboy2
23/9/2021
11:26
Rikky ..try restarting your computer. The market is assessing the CEO not the current balance sheet. Does not say a lot for current incumbents in COST. A company is only as good as the man in charge.
sparty1
23/9/2021
09:35
Another large volume day by the look of things. Several 150,000 share transactions going through. I'm guessing perhaps 3 or 4 million today. It looks as though the market is re-assessing Kier. I anticipate a steady climb in the shareprice now to the January results. Last year over this time period we doubled in very different circumstances (less optimistic, no cash raise in place, high-debt, a lot of fear about covid). I won't be surprised if we double again due to no net debt, solid order book and a current price which is still at distressed levels. There's also a lot of coverage about the Lower Thames River Crossing today; Kier is in contention for roads contracts on both north and south sides of the proposed development and this could be as big a boost for Kier as HS2, but contracts haven't been awarded and I'm not going to get excited about it until they are awarded. However, Kier's name is prominent and I'm guessing it's adding a little to the interest here.
stdyeddy
23/9/2021
07:29
Another chunky contract win for our favourite construction firm: Thames Water has appointed Kier to deliver a £66m upgrade to its third largest sewage treatment works in Isleworth, just outside of Twickenham Stadium. hTTps://www.constructionenquirer.com/2021/09/23/kier-scoops-66m-twickenham-sewage-works-upgrade/
stdyeddy
22/9/2021
10:22
I'm seeing a series of buys at 122p for half-a-million shares each time this morning. Someone is stake-building and seems to have bought 3 million today alone. Also interesting to see the institutional holders building their holdings here; a few weeks ago they were down at 32% and now they are just a fraction under 40%.
stdyeddy
21/9/2021
22:33
Don't know why the question mark always turns into an exclamation mark instead. Makes me look like an excitable whippet..
rikky72
21/9/2021
22:31
Funnily enough, I did decide to do both and went for COST too, but have a ratio of about 3:1 KIER: COST.Just curious if anyone else holds both and what their timescales/ targets are for them!
rikky72
21/9/2021
16:06
Well we shall see if Kier generate £120m cash per annum or not. Because they have a lot less tangible net assets than in Dec 2018 after the last equity issue, I am very sceptical of this net cash position now. That in a nutshell will be the test. In the meantime I think the share price will drift lower untill proven.
wallywoo
21/9/2021
15:56
Maybe. I am cautious, as you know - prefer solid balance sheets and it's better still if they have hundreds of millions of net cash. Even more so in a sector like this where an investor needs some insurance if things get messy, as they tend to do - the ability to trade their way out. Hence I like housebuilders like TW. and RDW and cash-rich construction companies on low earnings multiples in this sector. But cash generation is the key for any business. The cash generation here going forward is clear enough, as far as I can see. Some of the detail may be different, but in broad simple terms it is £4,000 million at 3% = £120m, less tax (take your pick - but that is why the 12 year period of no tax really matters). Compare with the market cap of (446 million shares at 120p) £535m. (Edit - just checking that issue again - it won't be nil tax for 12 years. The tax asset of £138m will take 12 years to utilise. Not the same thing. But the tax charge will be something like 10-15% of Profit Before Tax for the forseeable, as they use those deferred tax losses carried forward.) They were also fair points stdy made regarding the trade finance and delayed tax. Truth is it's not that important at those levels whether £100m or nil or somewhere in between. At £600-£700m, debt levels mattered. Not now. In my book, a business available for £535m when it generates £120m per annum is a decent prospect. Sure, COST is even cheaper, particularly when looking at enterprise value (as any predator would), but there is no rule saying you can't be in both. What I think is difficult to deny is that this is not expensive now.
imastu pidgitaswell
21/9/2021
15:37
Imastu, I am not looking backwards with Kier. I am looking at them now as a investment. The problem I have with that is balance sheet capitalisation (ie large negative tangible net assets). If you study history of all the past failures in this sector, that is the main correlation. In deed, Jarvis had 2 equity issues, and a debt for equity issue, and sold a load of assets. However, because they never managed to get better than (-£100m) tangible net assets they eventually went bust. Of course that theory, although tested through history is still playing out here. Is it worth the risk?? I am not adversed to risk taking (in deed just taken profits from jkx, that I tipped on here 6 months ish ago at 47.5, bgt at 20p). But to own a company with such a poor balance sheet in this sector is silly. IMO is is just as likely they will continue to lose cash as make it going forward, especially as the interest rate on debt has increased. Your Costain investment went very lack luster 4/6 months after the equity issue. Very likely to happen here too.
wallywoo
21/9/2021
14:32
https://uk.advfn.com/cmn/fbb/thread.php3?id=8067302&from=21648 Zzzzzzz 🙄
imastu pidgitaswell
21/9/2021
13:39
and he still does not know why....never will..
sparty1
20/9/2021
19:42
Had already liked a couple yours... Despite the aggravation, and the infantility of Pinky and Perky, I have only ever looked at this - and everything else - from a view of objectivity. Kept saying that, but no-one was having it. The high risk play that this was is now a much lower risk; not risk-free, and riskier than some others - but you need different options from safe to risky. And it is also 3 times higher than its lows in terms of share price. Different risk:reward profile from here onwards. Going all the way back to my first post - which I've copied before - it's a case of assessing the facts, preferably without a bias. Difficult if you hold, easier if you don't. https://uk.advfn.com/cmn/fbb/thread.php3?id=8067302&from=14998 Be honest, this is how it has panned out - the share price performance has been better than I reckoned (which is probably all that matters), but in terms of actions and events, basically correct. They have done extremely well as a management group to manage an extremely difficult inheritance.
imastu pidgitaswell
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