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[the librarian] 17/6/2013 08:25

Bogg1e, although it is dated 2003 this a useful write up on Iodine uses

hxxp://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/iodine/iodinmyb03.pdf

However, information is produced every year, although somewhat limited because nobody wants to open up too much on what they are doing.... here.

hxxp://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/iodine/

[superg1] 17/6/2013 08:15

We are past the 1 month first time span for the patent, so imo that news could be any day, but could be weeks of course, we'll see.

I wonder if we will get a trading update, tomorrow of AGM day, just to settle nerves post last weeks rns.

Looking at bits and pieces available, it looks like things should be quite buoyant.

Maybe an interesting week.

[superg1] 17/6/2013 07:33

Supplements are not a big sector for iodine, there are however surges in demand due to panic buying over such incidents.

That said, iodine deficiency has been a big subject right across the globe and even in the UK as we know.

As I recall about 1 billion suffer iodine deficiency related conditions.

[sandbag] 17/6/2013 07:30

Bogg1e,

From the other board:
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Sg1,
Re the Indian ad.

As a matter of interest potassium iodate tablets are what's given to anyone involved in a radiation incident. There's no substitute.

[n3tleylucas] 17/6/2013 02:44

SCRUTABLE,

Good morning.

I see the fault here. I see the weakness. I see IC. I see capacity. I see another funding.

But that's just the start.

Yer numbers are wrong.

[n3tleylucas] 17/6/2013 00:55

Bogg1e,

May I be the 1st to congratulate you.

You will be an asset here, I'm sure.

You have a good head on yer shoulders. Be careful, don't talk 'to' me.

A song, just for you.

[n3tleylucas] 17/6/2013 00:15

My stove pipe hat stock dived thanks to bloody John Wilkes Booth!

Clock towers are the next big thing.

[hitsha3] 16/6/2013 23:48

Why tip clock towers?

[hitsha3] 16/6/2013 23:45

Good old picture there, thats where i use to hang about when i was teenager.

[n3tleylucas] 16/6/2013 23:18

My tip is clock towers.

[hitsha3] 16/6/2013 22:40

I will be more happy once the patente are granted,then news on io3, and news on new CEO.

[superg1] 16/6/2013 21:55

One more for you Gad. It just shows how tech will have many uses for iodine

[gadolinium] 16/6/2013 20:17

Yet another potentially transformational use for iodine. Cable prepared from iodine treated carbon nonotubes is capable of equalling the electrical conductivity of copper wire, but with much reduced weight.

hxxp://www.technologyreview.com/news/425468/nanotube-cables-hit-a-milestone-as-good-as-copper/

Nanotube Cables Hit a Milestone: As Good as Copper
Researchers achieve a goal they've been after since the 1980s-the advance could make cars and airplanes lighter, and renewable energy more practical. By Katherine Bourzac on September 19, 2011
For the first time, researchers have made carbon-nanotube electrical cables that can carry as much current as copper wires. These nanotube cables could help carry more renewable power farther in the electrical grid, provide lightweight wiring for more-fuel-efficient vehicles and planes, and make connections in low-power computer chips. Researchers at Rice University have now demonstrated carbon-nanotube cables in a practical system and are designing a manufacturing line for commercial production.
Making lightweight, efficient carbon nanotube wiring as conductive as copper has been a goal of nanotechnologists since the 1980s. Individual carbon nanotubes-hollow nanoscale tubes of pure carbon-are mechanically strong and an order of magnitude more conductive than copper. But unless carbon nanotubes are put together just so, larger structures made from them don't have the superlative properties of the individual tubes.
Years of tinkering in the lab to find the right assembly techniques and ingredients have enabled researchers led by Rice materials science professors Pulickel Ajayan and Enrique Barrera to finally make carbon nanotube cables as good as copper cables. The group's nano cables boast a combination of properties that's so far unprecedented. They're mechanically strong, yet flexible enough to be knotted or woven together into long lengths of wire. They carry about 100,000 amps of current per square centimeter of material, about the same amount as copper wires, but weigh one-sixth as much. They outperform copper on a metric called current density, which means they should be able to carry more electricity over longer distances without losing energy to heat-a problem with today's electrical grid, and with computer chips. And because they're made of carbon, not metal, they don't corrode.
Carbon nanotubes vary in their conductivity, length, and number of layers. The Rice group found that what worked best were relatively long, double-walled nanotubes provided by collaborators from Tsinghua University in Beijing. Electrons move through individual nanotubes very quickly, but current slows down when the electrons must jump from nanotube to nanotube. The longer the nanotubes, the fewer such jumps the electrons have to make in a given length of wire.
The process of making nano cables begins with a lump of double-walled nanotubes that have been treated to remove impurities. The researchers add sulfuric acid to the nanotubes so they can spread them into a thin film. They then grasp the edge of the film with tweezers to start making a fiber, and pull with a steady force to yield a long cable-similar to how wool yarn is made by pulling and twisting fleece. They rinse the acid from the cable and expose it to iodine vapor at high temperatures. The iodine penetrates into the nanotubes within the cable and increases the cable's conductivity without compromising its mechanical properties. And the Rice group has shown that conductivity isn't affected when the cables are knotted together to make greater lengths.
To demonstrate that cables made in this way can transmit a standard line voltage, they used one to connect a fluorescent lightbulb to a wall socket and left the light on for days. This work is described online in the journal Nature Scientific Reports.

[1madmarky] 16/6/2013 17:52

Slightly off topic. One thing that is going to be very interesting shortly is that if the US can continue to improve the efficiency and thus reduce the cost of shale oil production as they have been doing. It won't be long before the cost of oil production in the US shales is less than the price OPEC countries require in order to keep their social welfare benefits.

On the water front, it does make sense to sell an asset when it has most value. The difficulty of course is working out when this is.

[backwoodsman] 16/6/2013 15:54

The foreign aspect re Business Property Relief for IHT purposes is a red herring - the business can be anywhere worldwide. Business can mean more than just a trade but there are exclusions such as dealing in land or securities. The point is that an AIM quote does not count as a stock exchange listing.

[sandbag] 16/6/2013 14:55

greatgiginthesky,

IOF not even listed as a company, never mind one on the IHT list!

[greatgiginthesky] 16/6/2013 13:23

Not sure I believe all I read in the Telegraph;)

hxxp://www.investorschampion.com/research/all-companies/designation/aim-for-iht-planning

IOF not listed

[pcjoe] 16/6/2013 12:58

Glad to hear that the Russian shale doesnt have commercial iodine -

hxxp://rt.com/business/shale-oil-russia-leader-601/

It does appears to be a globally rare feature especially with regard to commercial quantities - Oklahoma is also blessed with a hell of a lot of brine water produced with Hydrocarbons which is again good news for IOF - A high volume of produced water has been a problem re commercial O&G exploitation elsewhere ( Iofinas Gas project at the Atlantis comes to mind)- Obviously not a problem with the Mississippi Lime in OK & Iofina on hand to help defray O&G operators costs as well

[n3tleylucas] 16/6/2013 12:53

No Monty, what's important is your own place of residence, not the company's place of business or even it's registered office.

There do appear to be some exclusions, certain property funds and purely holding/trading companies, but do check properly with your solicitor.

As I say, the benefit is holding for 2 years before death, so holding until then may prove difficult if company circumstances change for the worse. You may lose more than you gain by holding.

Look at gifting assets, you can give away as much as you like as long as you live 7 years after the gift. There are other smaller gifts too, that don't depend on the 7 year rule.

[superg1] 16/6/2013 12:46

Pc

The injected water is 'flow back water', it soon clears and makes no difference to ppm's. Most of the flowback water comes out over 7 to 10 days, with a decline over 3 to 4 weeks.

ppm samples come from completed wells that have passed that time frame.

I did ask re the Bakken a while back on PPM's, as vast as it is the iodine ppm is poor, which is good news. The vast Russia wells and other large area's don't really have interesting commercial iodine. The high ppm's are clearly restricted to prehistoric kelp beds.

NW OK was obviously one of those area's.

[pcjoe] 16/6/2013 12:27

From what I`ve read about Gas fracking its very dependant on the strata to be fracked - very much on a well by well / area by area basis it would seem - Sometimes used after water fracking operations in the same well begins to lose efficiency - Production increases and the well life extended it would appear

On a smillar vein for IOF iodine extraction purposes could CO2 fracking be beneficial? - Clean water used for fracking must get mixed up in the iodine rich produced brine & diluting the PPMs in same - No such problem with CO2

[monty panesar] 16/6/2013 12:16

I have taken advice and been told that IOFINA Should qualify for IHT purposes. The main reason it should qualify is subject to them gaining their patents. As it is a process based on patents and is a UK plc that means it is ok. If was a non patented process it wouldn't qualify due to it's business being carried out overseas.

But DYOR and take your own advice etc. etc.